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Postby skyliner » Mon Dec 18, 2006 1:02 pm

I can only just remember the old trams - quite a comprehensive system. Ripped up by 1958 just like everywhere else. (Here in Brisbane I believe by early 1960's). All this occurred on the back of the concept of the 'road/car is king' and that trams cause bottlenecks, are unsafe and uneconomical.

Now people all over the western world are discovering this folly as the roads jam up, even with more expressways. Plans have been put in Brisbane for the re- introduction of trams, as there has been in Sydney and in Adelaide. Strange, all this; and after the collectiive wisdom of intelligent researchers and transport gurus of the 1950's as well!

I often pick up rail development magazines and lo and behold! - extensive and frequent advertising from tram/light rail manufacturers occurs - and on a world level - people are seeing the light with tram systems. Hope Adelaide sees trams again - they have proven their worth economically and functionally in many places now.

I often wonder just how much short sighted 'flavour of the month'thinking prevails in what is done. (In conjunction with voter power). May be too cynical here!?!
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Postby Jamo » Mon Dec 18, 2006 5:01 pm

bva Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 8:36 pm Post subject:

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dont forget the Mats Plan
cars were the way of the future!!


And now we have niether MATS or a decent tram system!

I love state govts
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Postby bdm » Mon Dec 18, 2006 5:21 pm

MATS wasn't a car based plan. It was a plan for transport, and had a target of 20% PT use. It was stated that if none of its ideas were implemented that PT use would shrink to 8% by 1984.

And, tada!
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Postby Ben » Wed Dec 27, 2006 2:17 pm



I'm guessing moderator's are on holidays...
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Flexity 110 delivery Thursday night

Postby BillD » Thu Mar 22, 2007 9:01 pm

Flexity 110 is to be offloaded in Victoria Square tonight (early hours of Friday morning 23/3/07).

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Postby AtD » Thu Mar 22, 2007 9:26 pm

Yes I saw the ramp in Vic Sq today.
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Postby BillD » Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:59 am

Flexity 110 was safely on track at 2:15am.

111 is due in April and 112 in May.
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Adelaide Flexity tearing the streets in Melbourne

Postby Will409 » Mon Apr 30, 2007 3:21 pm

I thought it would be worth noting that Melbourne tramway operator Yarra Trams has one of our Flexities (newly delivered 111) running around the Melbourne network in AdelaideMetro livery under evaluation. Rumour is that they are going to make an order for 100 trams later on this year and they are doing some design evaluations (they already have a 4 section Combino from Lisbon over as well).

There is going to be a big advantage if the Flexity is chosen. Bombardier who make the Flexities have a plant set up in Melbourne so if our design is chosen, we will not have to import the trams from overseas. That will mean a dramatic reduction in cost also. Ony the first 4 trams (101-104) were actually landed at Outer Harbour and the rest of the fleet have been coming here via Melbourne. In the mean time, 111 is going to be running around the streets of Melbourne for a few months.

For more updates, have a look here:
http://www.railpage.com.au/f-t11329813-s30.htm
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Postby bmw boy » Mon Apr 30, 2007 3:58 pm

lol i wonder what the victorians will think seeing those colours paraded around town
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Postby stelaras » Mon Apr 30, 2007 4:02 pm

they love it, well i do....but im a South Aussie living in melbourne...To be honest they wouldn't know that they are SA colours
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Postby Will409 » Mon Apr 30, 2007 4:05 pm

They should know soon, it has all the 'AdelaideMetro' decals attached to it.
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Postby bmw boy » Mon Apr 30, 2007 4:07 pm

im sure if theyre football fans they may have picked it up as the crows colours
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Postby crawf » Mon Apr 30, 2007 5:20 pm

They would surely notice the 'Adelaide Metro' logo.
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Postby stelaras » Wed May 02, 2007 7:50 am

I don't think they pay attention chaps.....Ive been here a while now and most (not all) melbournians take a lot of things for granted.

It (the tram) looks great those and i will be pointing it out at least to the people i know if and when i see it!
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