Sporting facility or Hospital???

[jk1237]

oh ive just noticed this thread
Yep, leave Adelaide Oval as it is, its sacrilege to stadiumise it.
Paulns, you are spot on, a new football stadium in that area near to rail line is what we need

[Ho Really]

If the choice was only between a hospital and a sporting facility, I think the sporting facility should get the nod. We all know this will generate more money in the area than a hospital. It would go better with any expansion of the Adelaide Convention Centre, Casino and Hotel developments. They could even fit in a bus interchange (which is one of my ideas), who knows.

I am just wondering about the stadium's height, since it would be taller than the proposed 'Taj Marj' Hospital it may infringe height limitaions. Anyone know what the OLS is there? Also TV and maybe even security would not be able to use helicopters over the stadium. That could be a big issue too.

Cheers

[Paulns]

I agree sure, continue with the planned redevelopment of the Adelaide oval stand but other than that leave it as it is.
Clearly if Football Park has proved one thing, it's that Adelaide is a big enough city for 2 stadiums just like Perth, Melbourne, Sydney and Brisbane has. The problem simply comes down to 2 things. Firstly the location. Any property expert will tell you that location is the most important aspect of any property. The worst house in the best street is not always a bad thing. Footy Park is a basket case, it was built away from any existing public transport (ie railway) and is not centerally located. Traveling to the ground from anywhere but the western suburbs is simply to far out of the way for most people. Especially with Adelaide's ever expanding/sprawling northern and southern suburbs.

Secondaly people now want more and better facilities for their buck. Especially when you compare what you get for a similar price of watching a game at say, the MCG or Telstra stadium in Sydney. On a cold winters day in Melbourne a family can go to the footy at the Telstra Dome and sit in relevant comfort knowing that the roof is closed. At footy park most of the seats are completly exposed to the elements. Its no wonder why people dont bother going.. why would ya, when you can easily sit at home and watch it on TV?????
A brand new centerally located stadium built along side Adelaide's busiest train station is by far and away the best solution.Trains and buses that serve everywhere from the northern to north-east to west, down to Glenelg and further down to the southern suburbs, all would provide CURRANT and direct access to the stadium. Maybe even a city west extension of the new tram line could also by pass the new stadium, providing an even better service!!!!!!

Come on people, we really have to start thinking outside the square here in Adelaide if we're ever going to get this city the respect and recognition it deserves!!! Footy Park may have been good back in the 70's but really we have to move on, TIMES HAVE CHANGED.
"If you build it, they will come"!!!

[stelaras]

What are we waiting for.. lets get it built

However, i still think that parking will be an issue!

Sure some people will use PT but most will drive in and im not so sure it will be as easy to build car parking under the stadium when we are proposing to build over the railway. Im no engineer, so maybe it can easily be done!

The other concern as has been alluded to is the height of any proposed stadium would almost certainly be breaking height limits for that area...

Im sure our cries will fall on deaf ears and we will most probably end up with a new hospital over the railyards as has been planned

[Paulns]

I agree with your concerns but I believe that if there's a political will, than these concerns can be over come.

[jimmy_2486]

I still don't understand what is so good looking about Adelaide Oval?

Maybe cos im not 90 years old yet and cant appreciate it??

Its surroundings make it beautiful IMO, not the stadium itself.

[Norman]

I still don't understand what is so good looking about Adelaide Oval?

Maybe cos im not 90 years old yet and cant appreciate it??

Its surroundings make it beautiful IMO, not the stadium itself.

I haven't lived here long, but there are many historical things tied to the oval, including prominent Adelaidans' ashes in the grass.

[AtD]

I still don't understand what is so good looking about Adelaide Oval?

Maybe cos im not 90 years old yet and cant appreciate it??

Its surroundings make it beautiful IMO, not the stadium itself.

Blasphemy.

[Ho Really]

I agree with your concerns but I believe that if there's a political will, than these concerns can be over come.

No political will is going to change flightpaths unfortunately. Not in the short term anyway. I think the majority of us here would prefer a stadium there, but if we got a hospital, then we should take it. There would still be some room towards the Morphett Street Bridge for other entertainment, convention type facitilies. Maybe, a new stadium could be built on the Clipsal site instead as already suggested. I would prefer to see medium to high density housing there, but with Hindmarsh Stadium and the Entertainment Centre close by, a new retractable-roof Football Park would fit in real nice. The issue of height around Hindmarsh/Brompton should be less severe, even though I have seen domestic planes fly over there. Need to get more info on this issue.

Cheers

[jimmy_2486]

Do you think we really need two stadiums in the city??

That would be a bit of a waste of money, something SA cant afford, and something that is not a neccesity.

We already have a stadium in the city (Adelaide Oval) that is perfectly good to facilitate any event. So why build another one? That extra money could be put else where.

[Cruise]

Do you think we really need two stadiums in the city??

That would be a bit of a waste of money, something SA cant afford, and something that is not a neccesity.

We already have a stadium in the city (Adelaide Oval) that is perfectly good to facilitate any event. So why build another one? That extra money could be put else where.

No we dont need two stadiums one is just fine and Adelaide Oval is in a perfect spot
I would hardly call adelaide oval a 'stadium' more so a pinic venue

[stelaras]

Adelaide oval is not a stadium!
It is a historical aspect of our city which deserves to be preserved


If we are ever to be serious about attracting serious sporting events we must have world class stadia that have to be close to the city.

Take melbourne as an example, in the immediate vicinity of the MCG (football, cricket), there are 2 stadiums the Tennis centre (tennis, basketball and most recently swimming) and olympic park (rugby/soccer) both of which are within walking distance to the city. On the opposite end of the city there is Telstra Dome (football, cricket, soccer) (again within walking distance to the city)

This is the reason why they get all of theses major events, their stadia are world class and close to the city, this gets bums on seats making the events a success and provides the city with lots of visitor income... It is in my opinion the perfect blend!

Adelaide can definitely do with a world class stadium to host more than one type of event, unfortunatley Adelaide oval isn't a world class stadium and with its partial heritage listing it can never be, AAMI is severly outdated (and not world class and too far away from the city) and hindmarch stadium is only semi-world class, and we really dont have a world class tennis facility (which is why we lost the Adelaide tennis event)

Perhaps a stadium over the railway isnt the best option perhaps we should consolidate major stadia in and around hindmarsh and have appropriate PT into the city from there. Im not sure what the solution to this is but im 100% convinced that if Adelaide is to get major sporting events it needs to build world class modern stadiums within a very close proximity to the city

just my thoughts

[bmw boy]

Do you think we really need two stadiums in the city??

That would be a bit of a waste of money, something SA cant afford, and something that is not a neccesity.

We already have a stadium in the city (Adelaide Oval) that is perfectly good to facilitate any event. So why build another one? That extra money could be put else where.

I dont see why we cant have 2 Sporting Venues in the city. It doesnt really matter how close they are if they are being used for 2 different purposes.

As has been pointed out Adelaide Oval is an Oval, primarily used for cricket. A proposed new stadium would serve football games, concerts and other events.

[Ho Really]

Adelaide oval is not a stadium!
It is a historical aspect of our city which deserves to be preserved

Agreed. You may eventually see day-night matches at a new venue because of its larger capacity, if it is built, but Adelaide Oval will always be the home of test cricket here in Adelaide and it will be preserved because of its historical and tourism aspect.

If we are ever to be serious about attracting serious sporting events we must have world class stadia that have to be close to the city.

Take melbourne as an example, in the immediate vicinity of the MCG (football, cricket), there are 2 stadiums the Tennis centre (tennis, basketball and most recently swimming) and olympic park (rugby/soccer) both of which are within walking distance to the city. On the opposite end of the city there is Telstra Dome (football, cricket, soccer) (again within walking distance to the city)

This is the reason why they get all of theses major events, their stadia are world class and close to the city, this gets bums on seats making the events a success and provides the city with lots of visitor income... It is in my opinion the perfect blend!

Adelaide can definitely do with a world class stadium to host more than one type of event, unfortunatley Adelaide oval isn't a world class stadium and with its partial heritage listing it can never be, AAMI is severly outdated (and not world class and too far away from the city) and hindmarch stadium is only semi-world class, and we really dont have a world class tennis facility (which is why we lost the Adelaide tennis event)

Perhaps a stadium over the railway isnt the best option perhaps we should consolidate major stadia in and around hindmarsh and have appropriate PT into the city from there. Im not sure what the solution to this is but im 100% convinced that if Adelaide is to get major sporting events it needs to build world class modern stadiums within a very close proximity to the city

just my thoughts

I echo your thoughts stelaras. Hindmarsh Stadium could still be resurected. Willing it could still be expanded. The stadium could move a further 50metres south, the Holden Street covered stand could be extended and the corners filled in. Another covered stand on the Manton Street as well. Manton Street would be undergrounded and Holden Street blocked off. An underground car park could be added on the southern end if the church and some private property was acquired. I know the church, etc., were a stumbling block when it was built, but things can change, or else underground and block those roads as mentioned.

The tennis stadium is a sad affair. Til this day I have no idea why it was never expanded. I think John Alexander (part owner of Next Generation) should have proposed something to Tennis SA and the government regarding a new multipurpose stand/venue on the western side where now there is a blank wall. Maybe the reason was the heritage-listed northern stand, I don't know, but we could have had a decent venue if it was enclosed and covered with a retractable roof. Instead we will now have dying grass there.

Cheers

[Cruise]

With the new state swimming centre at marion what will become of the current one at North Adelaide?

Thats prime real estate