Adelaide has to build a NEW stadium for 2018/2022 World Cup

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Adelaide has to build a NEW stadium for 2018/2022 World Cup

#1 Post by adam_stuckey » Tue May 12, 2009 2:24 pm

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Neither AAMI Stadium nor Adelaide Oval will be part of Australia's bid for the 2018 or 2022 soccer World Cups.

Football Federation Australia has rejected both venues and asked the State Government to build a 40,000-seat arena, which will revert to 25,000 seats after the World Cup.

FFA chief Ben Buckley delivered this verdict to the SANFL, SACA and government in lengthy meetings in Adelaide yesterday.

He also rejected redeveloping soccer's 16,000-seat Hindmarsh Stadium.

Buckley delivered two options for where the new rectangular stadium should be built – one on the university sports field on the northern banks of River Torrens; the other on the soccer fields behind Adelaide High School.

He estimated the cost of the World Cup arena at $250 million.

Minister for Sports and Recreation Michael Wright rejected Buckley's submission, which will be reaffirmed in writing this week.

"We've made it clear that this government is not in the business of building a new stadium," Mr Wright told AdelaideNow today.

"The Government considers AAMI Stadium and Adelaide Oval as fine options."

Buckley rejected AAMI Stadium, arguing the distance from the seats to the pitch was too great. He also took issue with the West Lakes arena not being close enough to Adelaide's CBD.

The redeveloped Adelaide Oval, which will have 36,000 seats when current works are completed next year, was considered "not big enough" for a World Cup venue.

The FFA also rejected AAMI Stadium and Adelaide Oval because the venues would not become the home of soccer in SA after the World Cup.

Buckley is in Perth today to assess that city's prospects for World Cup venues.

State Opposition leader Martin Hamilton-Smith today described the FFA verdict on Adelaide's existing stadia as "an embarrassment to SA".
"We have been saying since early last year that a new stadium is needed," Mr Hamilton-Smith said.

Mr Hamilton-Smith maintained his $900 million plan for a 50,000-seat stadium on Adelaide's western fringe would "fit the bill for FIFA requirements" for a World Cup bid.


Personally if either party says no to a stadium and then Australia does win the right to host the world cup their ass is grass really. But convincing everyone that we need it first is the hard part.

One thing that we all need to remember is that IF we get the rectangular stadium and IF we get the world cup, sure we're looking at 5 - 10 games during that but there are loads more games that will be played there.
1. Every country who hosts the world cup hosts the Confederations Cup first
2. Adelaide United should need a larger stadium within 5 - 10 years and this is the perfect excuse for one. I felt embarrassed that we could only get 17,000 to the Asian Champions League Final.
3. Most of the other A-league teams are getting major clubs (Barcalona, Fulham, Everton, Juventus) coming to play friendlies against them but we're missing out due to the fact our stadium is too small (this is what Juventus said)
4. IF the AFL and SACA somehow come to an agreement and either build and new stadium ($900M riverside) or redue Adelaide Oval Football won't get a look in at all (AFL winter - Cricket summer)

The main issue is that Adelaide United needs to get more memberships, if there is a steady growth in the next 2-4 seasons this would be a very good indicator of whether it should go ahead or not. I would say around 15,000 within that period would be acceptable. So then by 2018 we'd hope to be looking at 25 - 30,000.

One other thing for those who don't think that Australia deserves the world cup go and see the Socceroos play in Melbourne or Sydney I went and saw 70,000 people watch Australia V China in a dead rubber at Stadium Australia, that was an amazing experience and a real eye opening as to how many people love Football in this country.
To try to put it in some sort of perspective the World Cup is as big as having 2 grand finals a day for a month

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#2 Post by flavze » Tue May 12, 2009 3:09 pm

Tis good and bad news tbh, great that the FFA has told Rann and his cronies to wake up to reality when it comes to the WC bid. Wether or not anything comes of it is another matter.

Plus i think the FFA will find it hard to put together enough stadia without one from Adelaide for a succesful WC bid.

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#3 Post by rhino » Tue May 12, 2009 3:29 pm

flavze wrote:Plus i think the FFA will find it hard to put together enough stadia without one from Adelaide for a succesful WC bid.
And then they will blame Adelaide for the unsuccessful bid, which was always going to be unsuccessful anyway. What a choice - we can spend hundreds of millions on a stadium that will still not get us the World Cup, and that we then won't be able to fill, in which case the Government will be accused of spending hundreds of millions building a white elephant, or we can be realistic and not build it, and get the blame for the lack of success with the bid.
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#4 Post by Splashmo » Tue May 12, 2009 3:30 pm

Boy, could you imagine the egg on our SA faces if the World Cup was to come to Australia and we weren't a part of it.

Adelaide Oval and by extension AAMI Stadium are pathetic venues in which to watch soccer. You need a rectangular stadium. If Melbourne can build a new one for the Victory and NRL for not too much at all, we should be able to do it too.

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#5 Post by rhino » Tue May 12, 2009 3:33 pm

Heck yeah! In fact, bugger the World Cup - Melbourne's got one, we should have one!
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#6 Post by adam_stuckey » Tue May 12, 2009 4:50 pm

rhino wrote:Heck yeah! In fact, bugger the World Cup - Melbourne's got one, we should have one!
I'm detcting a hint of sarcasm here.... I'm still all for it though!

Just letting people know Melbourne Rectangular Stadium which holds just over 31,000 will cost $268M so I'm guessing if we need 40,000 (FIFA standard) we'll be looking at around $350M
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#7 Post by rhino » Tue May 12, 2009 4:57 pm

So Melbourne's stadium does not meet FIFA's standard anyway?
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#8 Post by adam_stuckey » Tue May 12, 2009 5:01 pm

rhino wrote:So Melbourne's stadium does not meet FIFA's standard anyway?
Yeah i don't think the new one will but both Eithiad (or how ever you spell it) and MCG do so melbourne is fair covered. The new one will just be for Club games....thats melbourne!
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#9 Post by peas_and_corn » Tue May 12, 2009 5:03 pm

AAMI not good enough for FFA, eh? I wonder how FFA will raise the cash for a new stadium

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#10 Post by adam_stuckey » Tue May 12, 2009 5:15 pm

Just wait till they get a great price for Adelaide United!
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#11 Post by peas_and_corn » Tue May 12, 2009 5:31 pm

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#12 Post by Norman » Tue May 12, 2009 6:55 pm

He has the right idea though. If we do build a new stadium, it should be rectangular, as multi-purpose venues are hopeless to watch football in. And across the road from Adelaide Oval is, in my opinion, a great location.

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#13 Post by flavze » Tue May 12, 2009 9:11 pm

adam_stuckey wrote:
rhino wrote:So Melbourne's stadium does not meet FIFA's standard anyway?
Yeah i don't think the new one will but both Eithiad (or how ever you spell it) and MCG do so melbourne is fair covered. The new one will just be for Club games....thats melbourne!
Melbourne will use the new rectangular stadium for the WC along with the MCG.
The new stadium has been built with foundations to be able to expanded to 50k, in it's initial 31k state it's only a single tier if i remember correctly.

Same with the GC 27k rectangular stadium, it's only a single tier and with a second added on top will easily be over the FIFA min 42k required for a WC venue.
the GC stadium was supposed to be built for 135million.

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#14 Post by adam_stuckey » Tue May 12, 2009 9:41 pm

Stand corrected just saw a new story on Adelaidenow Mike Rann hasn't ruled it out as long as we actually get the world cup so i guess we should start digging foundations now
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#15 Post by flavze » Tue May 12, 2009 9:46 pm

By the way what are people pro's an cons for the two locations mentioned by Ben Buckley in the article.
the Uni sporting grounds and the Adelaide high school location?

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