do you support fluoridation of mains water?

[ricecrackers]

you speak of FUD..another one of these internet memes
what about the FUD of climate change?
that would have to be one of the greatest examples of FUD to sell an idea in history

Maybe, but that's a diversion from the topic at hand. References please so we can continue...

i can provide references, that is not an issue
what i find baffling is why nobody bothers to search for this stuff themselves. its really not that difficult.
there seems to be a preference to win at internet and pwn rather than actually think, discern and learn.

[monotonehell]

...it is a toxic substance after all, thats fact not hysteria...

Is it? Please provide references.
An overdose may lead to gastric issues, but that's at a very high concentration. Almost any substance can cause issues at a high enough dose. Your statement sounds like FUD.

you see this is the problem. this attitude of slapping a label on anyone who questions the official line.
this was the climate in which Galileo had to operate and yet now with hindsight he is regarded as one of the greatest scientists of all time.

i suggest you read up on the toxicity of sodium fluoride and what it can do to your body and brain. however if you want to remain blissfully ignorant, that is your choice.

i can provide references, that is not an issue
what i find baffling is why nobody bothers to search for this stuff themselves. its really not that difficult.
there seems to be a preference to win at internet and pwn rather than actually think, discern and learn.

Well you see, after your first statement I quoted above about it being not hysteria, I DID go and look it up. That's why I posted: "An overdose may lead to gastric issues, but that's at a very high concentration. Almost any substance can cause issues at a high enough dose." and asked for your references.

I do look up stuff myself, I do not like to make statements of opinion based on ignorance.

Again please provide some credible references so that I may be enlightened... That IS the issue.

[ricecrackers]

Well you see, after your first statement I quoted above about it being not hysteria, I DID go and look it up. That's why I posted: "An overdose may lead to gastric issues, but that's at a very high concentration. Almost any substance can cause issues at a high enough dose." and asked for your references.

I do look up stuff myself, I do not like to make statements of opinion based on ignorance.

Again please provide some credible references so that I may be enlightened... That IS the issue.

fluorosis is caused by fluoride. that much is in the very first article i posted here. this is why they have been forced to half the amount of fluoride added to water in the US. (which is also half the level we maintain here in Australia)
they speak of dental fluorosis here and in the US, but there is also skeletal fluorosis which weakens the bones. its basically caused by the same thing.
look it up, there are hundreds of articles and images of the effects.

furthermore there have been numerous studies outside of the US which has linked fluoride to brain, kidney damage and cancer.

here there are links to Chinese research that links fluoride to lower IQ levels. unsurprising considering what i've seen happen to this country since its introduction. it is making us dumber.
http://fluoridealert.org/caseagainstflu ... dices.html

[ricecrackers]

CRIME 4 April 2008, 3:09PM
Nazi's used Sodium Fluoride
By Roberto Jelash
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The first occurrence of fluoridated drinking water on Earth was found in Germany's Nazi prison camps. The Gestapo had little concern about fluoride's supposed effect on children's teeth; their alleged reason for mass-medicating water with sodium fluoride was to sterilize humans and force the people in their concentration camps into calm submission. (Ref. book: "The Crime and Punishment of I.G. Farben" by Joseph Borkin.)

The following letter was received by the Lee Foundation for Nutritional Research, Milwaukee Wisconsin, on 2 October 1954, from Mr. Charles Perkins, a chemist:

"I have your letter of September 29 asking for further documentation regarding a statement made in my book, The Truth About Water Fluoridation, to the effect that the idea of water fluoridation was brought to England from Russia by the Russian Communist Kreminoff. "In the 1930's, Hitler and the German Nazi's envisioned a world to be dominated and controlled by a Nazi philosophy of pan-Germanism. The German chemists worked out a very ingenious and far-reaching plan of mass-control which was submitted to and adopted by the German General Staff. This plan was to control the population in any given area through mass medication of drinking water supplies. By this method they could control the population in whole areas, reduce population by water medication that would produce sterility in women, and so on. In this scheme of mass-control, sodium fluoride occupied a prominent place. ...

"Repeated doses of infinitesimal amounts of fluoride will in time reduce an individual's power to resist domination, by slowly poisoning and narcotizing a certain area of the brain, thus making him submissive to the will of those who wish to govern him. [A convenient light lobotomy]

"The real reason behind water fluoridation is not to benefit children's teeth. If this were the real reason there are many ways in which it could be done that are much easier, cheaper, and far more effective. The real purpose behind water fluoridation is to reduce the resistance of the masses to domination and control and loss of liberty.

"When the Nazis under Hitler decided to go into Poland, both the German General Staff and the Russian General Staff exchanged scientific and military ideas, plans, and personnel, and the scheme of mass control through water medication was seized upon by the Russian Communists because it fitted ideally into their plan to communize the world. ...

"I was told of this entire scheme by a German chemist who was an official of the great IG Farben chemical industries and was also prominent in the Nazi movement at the time. I say this with all the earnestness and sincerity of a scientist who has spent nearly 20 years' research into the chemistry, biochemistry, physiology and pathology of fluorine--any person who drinks artificially fluorinated water for a period of one year or more will never again be the same person mentally or physically."
CHARLES E. PERKINS, Chemist, 2 October 1954.

http://www.infonews.co.nz/news.cfm?id=17791

[AtD]

Closed as per Godwin's Law.