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Re: ONH: The Precinct - 5 x 18 lvl - 58m towers

Postby cruel_world00 » Wed May 02, 2012 10:05 am

Ben wrote:From the council 2012/13 budget:

Project ID 2115 Balfours Redevelopment Bus Station Masterplanning

Ascertain highest and best use for the site, undertake relevant feasibility and
strategy analysis to realise highest rate of return or sale price, high level master
planning to facilitate and maximise density and activation, and manage a ROI
process for land sale or identify joint venture partner

$10,000



Maybe allow the requested liquor license and beg Vili's to consider coming back to this site?
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Re: ONH: The Precinct - 5 x 18 lvl - 58m towers

Postby Ben » Wed May 02, 2012 10:08 am

cruel_world00 wrote:
Ben wrote:From the council 2012/13 budget:

Project ID 2115 Balfours Redevelopment Bus Station Masterplanning

Ascertain highest and best use for the site, undertake relevant feasibility and
strategy analysis to realise highest rate of return or sale price, high level master
planning to facilitate and maximise density and activation, and manage a ROI
process for land sale or identify joint venture partner

$10,000



Maybe allow the requested liquor license and beg Vili's to consider coming back to this site.


Think your confused. This is about the redevelopment of the old bus station site :)

If your referring to the cafe tenancy that was leased to cafe Primo a few months back.
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Re: ONH: The Precinct - 5 x 18 lvl - 58m towers

Postby cruel_world00 » Wed May 02, 2012 10:27 am

cruel_world00 wrote:
Ben wrote:From the council 2012/13 budget:

Project ID 2115 Balfours Redevelopment Bus Station Masterplanning

Ascertain highest and best use for the site, undertake relevant feasibility and
strategy analysis to realise highest rate of return or sale price, high level master
planning to facilitate and maximise density and activation, and manage a ROI
process for land sale or identify joint venture partner

$10,000



Maybe allow the requested liquor license and beg Vili's to consider coming back to this site?


Ohhhhh. Right.

Carry on.
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Re: ONH: The Precinct - 5 x 18 lvl - 58m towers

Postby Ben » Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:10 pm

Thought Altitude was already an Oaks?

Type: Development Application Received
Application Number: DA/406/2012
Lodgement Date: 19/06/2012
Location: ALTITUDE, 2-18 Balfours Way, ADELAIDE SA 5000
Description: Use of 150 Apartments for permanent residential accomodation and/or short term accomodation as serviced.

Applicant Name:


OAKS HOTELS & RESORTS (SA) P/L
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Re: ONH: The Precinct - 5 x 18 lvl - 58m towers

Postby crawf » Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:10 am

That's odd.
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Re: ONH: The Precinct - 5 x 18 lvl - 58m towers

Postby Will » Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:33 pm

Maybe it's a retrospective application?
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Re: ONH: The Precinct - 5 x 18 lvl - 58m towers

Postby rev » Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:09 pm

Maybe they were privately owned apartments that Oaks now has control of?
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Re: ONH: The Precinct - 5 x 18 lvl - 58m towers

Postby Uncle Monty » Thu Jun 21, 2012 7:44 pm

Oaks are definately in 'The Gallery' as signage is on Morphett St, but maybe not in 'Altitude' as yet???
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Re: ONH: The Precinct - 5 x 18 lvl - 58m towers

Postby UrbanSG » Thu Jul 05, 2012 11:57 am

Confirms what we all expected ... looks as though Urban Construct's days in Adelaide will be limited to completing the Balfours stage of the development, although I won't hold my breath waiting, despite the 3-6 month timeline for restarting this stage.

Urban's $900 million Franklin St project scrapped
by: Chloe Kennedy
From: City Messenger
July 05, 2012 11:13AM

A PLAN to build 540 apartments on the former Franklin St bus station site has been scrapped, with the City Council forced to abandon the final stage of a $900 million development.

The council has confirmed the second stage of the city's largest residential development will not go ahead after it dissolved part of its contract with Urban Construct and Brookfield Multiplex.

City Council project manager Mike Philipou said the site would be returned to the council because the developers had not met set timeframes.

Mr Philipou said poor pre-sales of apartments in The Precinct development were to blame for part of the contract being dissolved.

"The existing contract called for the sequential development of the sites," he said."

''As a result of the soft (property) market those development timeframes were at risk."

Elected members have discussed the issue behind closed doors several times in the past year, with its most recent discussion at last Tuesday's meeting (June 26).

Mr Philipou said the council would now look at its options for the reclaimed land, which could include selling it or entering into another joint venture.

They would look at a mixed-use residential development, with commercial and retail space on the ground floor, he said.

"This (site) location is strategically between the Central Market and the railway site and is very important for the city," he said.

"We are still considering our options on the site.

"The first thing is to understand the best development use for the site."

About 6900sq m of land on the bus station site and 670sq m of land on the former Balfours site, on the corner of Morphett and Franklin streets, have been handed back to the council.

The Precinct development masterplan was approved by the council in 2006 and included 1300 apartments over two sites.

Four other apartment towers on the old Balfours site, with about 650 apartments, will continue to be completed by Urban Construct and Brookfield Multiplex, with work set to re-start in the next three to six months.

Urban Construct and Brookfield Multiplex would not comment on the contract with the City Council.

Acting Lord Mayor David Plumridge said the council would work with the State Government and developers to look at how best to develop the site.

"We want to see a development that will stimulate activity, provide business opportunities, increase the city's residential population and support housing choice and social mix," he said.

The City Council's decision comes less than a year after the State Government axed its contract with the Urban Construct-led Newport Quays consortium, following years of delays in the development of the Port Adelaide waterfront.
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Re: ONH: The Precinct - 5 x 18 lvl - 58m towers

Postby rogue » Thu Jul 05, 2012 12:40 pm

Note to developers - provide us with something more than a tiny hotel type room and sales may improve
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Re: ONH: The Precinct - 5 x 18 lvl - 58m towers

Postby Waewick » Thu Jul 05, 2012 1:01 pm

rogue wrote:Note to developers - provide us with something more than a tiny hotel type room and sales may improve

agreed

IMO, this development single handely destroyed the apartment market in Adelaide
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Re: ONH: The Precinct - 5 x 18 lvl - 58m towers

Postby crawf » Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:22 pm

I'm so glad to hear about this, The Precinct has failed written all over it from it's ugly low rise schooling block to that eyesore on Franklin St. Even Attitude is nothing to rave about.

Hopefully now we will finally see something happen to the old Bus station, considering the potential being next to Chinatown and developments along Franklin Street. AND hopefully the State Government extends the unlimited height zone to here, so then the site can be used to it's full potential.
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Re: ONH: The Precinct - 5 x 18 lvl - 58m towers

Postby Ben » Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:27 pm

This is interesting and slightly concerning

Four other apartment towers on the old Balfours site, with about 650 apartments, will continue to be completed by Urban Construct and Brookfield Multiplex, with work set to re-start in the next three to six months.



1 is the loft another school block, 2nd is another 18 storey tower what are the other 2? And how many decades do they have to complete them?
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Re: ONH: The Precinct - 5 x 18 lvl - 58m towers

Postby Reb-L » Thu Jul 05, 2012 5:46 pm

I hope The Loft will never see the light of day - at least if it's anything like The Gallerie in Morphett Street. Cannot imagine a more unimaginative building.
The land next to the bus station is perfect for some real towers - minimum should be at least 25 storys. This will become the center of the city because it's the most underdeveloped area within the CBD.
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Re: ONH: The Precinct - 5 x 18 lvl - 58m towers

Postby adam73837 » Thu Jul 05, 2012 7:25 pm

I agree. The close proximity to Chinatown and Victoria Square gives this site a lot of potential. Also given the recent City Central Developments nearby, this whole area could become a buzz of activity.
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