Crane Counter: CBD 8 | Metro 8 | Total 16

[EBG]

The Verde crane at Kent town came down in the last couple of days (I am not sure exactly when).

[timtam20292]

I think I saw a part of it coming down yesterday.

[SouthAussie94]

Came down Saturday. King William St, Kent Town was closed for most of the day.

[ghs]

Idk if my tolerance is higher but tbh the pile on is just as unattractive. If you think someone's a troll, don't feed them - ignore instead. If you think their ideas are wrong, challenge their ideas. The aggressive push back and sometimes name-calling are more likely to encourage the behaviour you appall than dissuade it.

I couldn't agree more. Being a conservative type I despise the bad language.

We have just recently lost a seat in Parliament due to slow population growth. Melbourne has over 150 cranes while we have a poultry 18.

And some people have the nerve to get upset when I talk about how bad the situation here is in SA ?

We need to get real in this city.

We're plodding towards a population of 1.5 million, Melbourne are shooting to 5 million. If we try to keep up with and compare ourselves to them, then Adelaide is always going to look inferior. We're not in the same league.

Have a look at it on a per capita basis. Assuming Melbourne is 3 times bigger then Adelaide.

150 cranes in Melbourne divided by 3 equals
50 cranes. But we don't have 50 cranes here in Adelaide. We don't even have 20.

As a city, we are in all sorts of trouble.

[GrowAdelaide]

What trouble are you referring to? Not sure why there is a need to benchmark ourselves against Melbourne or anyone for that matter. Things are moving forward- that's a good thing.

[PeFe]

What trouble are you referring to? Not sure why there is a need to benchmark ourselves against Melbourne or anyone for that matter. Things are moving forward- that's a good thing.

Good comment mate...............things are moving forward

And latest population estimates, Melbourne 4.5 million, Adelaide 1.3 million, which gives a ratio of 3.46........yes Melbourne is probably doing better (economically) than Adelaide.....but as I say to friends and strangers, Adelaide is on "the up!"

[timtam20292]

I couldn't agree more. Being a conservative type I despise the bad language.

We have just recently lost a seat in Parliament due to slow population growth. Melbourne has over 150 cranes while we have a poultry 18.

And some people have the nerve to get upset when I talk about how bad the situation here is in SA ?

We need to get real in this city.

We're plodding towards a population of 1.5 million, Melbourne are shooting to 5 million. If we try to keep up with and compare ourselves to them, then Adelaide is always going to look inferior. We're not in the same league.

Have a look at it on a per capita basis. Assuming Melbourne is 3 times bigger then Adelaide.

150 cranes in Melbourne divided by 3 equals
50 cranes. But we don't have 50 cranes here in Adelaide. We don't even have 20.

As a city, we are in all sorts of trouble.

Spewing negative rubbish as usual.

[[Shuz]]

GHS, you clearly don't understand basic economics.

There's a multiplier effect. The bigger the city, the bigger the multiplier effect, the bigger the economic output.

16 projects for Adelaide is pretty good.

[Ben]

October update.

The biggies are starting.

Possibly a crane at City Central and Realm sites by Christmas due to no basements but depends how fast they work and maybe One Adelaide. No other expected this year but may be a surprise.

Bohem down later this month.


Location...........................Levels..................Crane

Completed 2017

152-160 Grote Street ......................................19
231-243 Waymouth Street..................................17
262 South Terrace...........................................15
Holiday Inn Express Hindley Street........................13
Uni of Adelaide, North Terrace............................13
111 South Terrace (Citi)....................................11
Verde - Kent Town ..........................................6
Flinders Hospital Rehabilitation facility


Under Construction/SWP CBD

Renaissance Arcade (Realm)..............................40 (132m)
29 Angus Street (Kodo).....................................30 (103m)............................1
114 Waymouth Street (U2).................................26.....................................1
260 Flinders Street (Stage 1)...............................24
150 Wright Street (Bohem).................................23....................................1
177-179 Victoria Square.....................................22
228 North Terrace............................................21....................................1
Synagogue Place Student tower............................21....................................1
West Franklin................................................21/19.................................2
10 Pitt Street (Ucity)........................................19....................................1
295 Pirie Street...............................................16
316 South Terrace (August Towers).......................14
Calvary Hospital - Angus Street............................13....................................2
Botanic High - Frome Street ................................7....................................1
St Andrews Hospital..........................................4.....................................1



TOTAL CBD CRANES:..................................12


Under Construction/SWP METRO

Park Central - Bowden.....................................12
East Park - Kent Town.....................................11......................................1
B Apartments - Bowden....................................7
Adelaide Airport Hotel.....................................7......................................1
Brighton Dunes..............................................7......................................1
Carmelite Retirement Village....................................................................1

TOTAL METRO CRANES:.................................4

TOTAL ADELAIDE CRANES:.............................16


Commencing November 2017

Frome Central............................................36 (135m)
Sofitel Currie Street.....................................32 (115m)
322 King William Street (North)........................31 (114m)
203 North Terrace........................................19



Approved/Proposed Upcoming

51 Pirie Street...........................................40 (150m) (VIS)
322 King William Street (South).......................31 (114m) (APP)
Festival Centre...........................................27 (108m) (APP)
157 Waymouth Street...................................23
260 Flinders Street (Stage 2)..........................20
211-215 South Terrace...................................19
126 Wright Street........................................18 (Pro)
126 Wakefield Street....................................18 (Pro)
20 Toms Court............................................17 (Pro)
Ascend Hotel West Terrace............................14
135 South Terrace (Parkland Vista)...................13
174-180 Wright Street...................................10
185 Pirie Street...........................................8

[mattblack]

Have a look at it on a per capita basis. Assuming Melbourne is 3 times bigger then Adelaide.

150 cranes in Melbourne divided by 3 equals
50 cranes. But we don't have 50 cranes here in Adelaide. We don't even have 20.

As a city, we are in all sorts of trouble.

Have a look at per capita basis. New York = 28 Cranes with 20 Million People, Adelaide = 16 with 1.5 Million people. For New York to be tracking the same as us they would need to have about 360 cranes. If you think we're in trouble New York must be the next Detroit. By the way, the number of cranes don't always correspond with economic activity; how many cranes do you think will be needed to build 50bn worth of submarines?

I'm also interested in how you propose to 'get real' in this city. I doubt that you will answer the question though because you have no answers.

[Ben]

Not relative to Adelaidean but the latest crane stats are out and GHS if you can read, it might be worth having a look.

Adelaide has the second highest growth behind Canberra all factors considered including population etc.

http://assets.rlb.com/production/2017/0 ... 4-2017.pdf

[Pistol]

Cranes are a lag economic indicator and do not accurately represent the current state of the cities economy.

With relatively similar populations, I would say Melbourne is in a dire position when compared with Sydney (151 v 350).

Never let statistics get in the way of a good story

[Ben]

A truck with white crane pieces just drove past me on grenfell Street. Not sure if it’s coming or going.

[SouthAussie94]

East Park crane is coming down this Sunday. Scheduled to be fully down by Tuesday.

[ChillyPhilly]

I couldn't agree more. Being a conservative type I despise the bad language.

We have just recently lost a seat in Parliament due to slow population growth. Melbourne has over 150 cranes while we have a poultry 18.

And some people have the nerve to get upset when I talk about how bad the situation here is in SA ?

We need to get real in this city.

We're plodding towards a population of 1.5 million, Melbourne are shooting to 5 million. If we try to keep up with and compare ourselves to them, then Adelaide is always going to look inferior. We're not in the same league.

Have a look at it on a per capita basis. Assuming Melbourne is 3 times bigger then Adelaide.

150 cranes in Melbourne divided by 3 equals
50 cranes. But we don't have 50 cranes here in Adelaide. We don't even have 20.

As a city, we are in all sorts of trouble.

What load of bs from ghs - then again, that's no surprise.