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Re: #U/C: The Precinct - 5 x 18 lvl - 58m towers

Postby monotonehell » Mon Aug 16, 2010 4:48 pm

iTouch(myself) wrote:It's projects like these that confuzzle me. What stopped them from building 2 or 3 100m+ towers instead :P

Staging: You could build a large project (if you can get the finance). But you'd have it sit there under construction being a money pit.
orrrrr
You could build several smaller projects, one at a time and get a steady income.

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Re: #U/C: The Precinct - 5 x 18 lvl - 58m towers

Postby metro » Mon Aug 16, 2010 4:52 pm

iTouch(myself) wrote:What stopped them from building 2 or 3 100m+ towers instead :P


The Adelaide City Council :P

but seriously what monotone said (remember the spire on betham) and our extreme air-safety rules, if you've seen how low planes like to fly over the CBD you would see why wespac is our tallest..need to get very strong demand here and redirect all flights by making the Adelaide CBD restricted airspace/no-fly-zone whatever it's called, then we might get some 200+m towers going up just like in Brizzy, Gold Coast, Sydney and Melb, could take a few years.
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Re: #U/C: The Precinct - 5 x 18 lvl - 58m towers

Postby ricecrackers » Tue Aug 17, 2010 1:28 am

dont see why we need huge towers when most of the CBD is still covered in single and 2 storey buildings and practically all of the suburbs are single storey.
there is still plenty of room available for < 20 level developments
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Re: #U/C: The Precinct - 5 x 18 lvl - 58m towers

Postby rev » Tue Aug 17, 2010 7:00 pm

metro wrote:The Adelaide City Council :P

our extreme air-safety rules, if you've seen how low planes like to fly over the CBD you would see why wespac is our tallest..need to get very strong demand here and redirect all flights by making the Adelaide CBD restricted airspace/no-fly-zone whatever it's called


Thats crap and I wish people would stop spreading ACC nimby propaganda.

I've given examples before of airports that are closer to a CBD, with planes flying closer to buildings, then what in Adelaide. And the buildings are taller.
Then you have places like Hong Kong, which had an airport surrounded by high rise. Never stopped them building tall buildings.

But for some reason it seems our council is under the belief that if they allow tall buildings they will magically attract planes out of the sky onto them.
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Re: #U/C: The Precinct - 5 x 18 lvl - 58m towers

Postby cruel_world00 » Tue Aug 17, 2010 8:16 pm

Hey rev, I know it's the internet, but ever heard of tongue-in-cheek?
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Re: #U/C: The Precinct - 5 x 18 lvl - 58m towers

Postby spiller » Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:43 pm

rev wrote:
metro wrote:The Adelaide City Council :P

our extreme air-safety rules, if you've seen how low planes like to fly over the CBD you would see why wespac is our tallest..need to get very strong demand here and redirect all flights by making the Adelaide CBD restricted airspace/no-fly-zone whatever it's called


Thats crap and I wish people would stop spreading ACC nimby propaganda.

I've given examples before of airports that are closer to a CBD, with planes flying closer to buildings, then what in Adelaide. And the buildings are taller.
Then you have places like Hong Kong, which had an airport surrounded by high rise. Never stopped them building tall buildings.

But for some reason it seems our council is under the belief that if they allow tall buildings they will magically attract planes out of the sky onto them.

The planes do fly quite close, I will demonstrate by taking a photo from my window seat on the rex flight that I catch back into Adelaide this afternoon. I dont think the risk of crashing into buildings is the reason why the restrction apply however; something about radar interferences come to mind, but i'm no expert on the matter.

RE: tall buildings being built in other citys close to the airport (like Hong Kong) and not Adelaide, one must also compare the economic status of the two cities. Adelaide doesnt have the demand at the moment for multiple (or even one) 200m+ towers. When it does, I assure you, the height restrictions will not hold the city (or its skyline) back. Things are on the move in Adelaide slowly, but surely. A negative focus on absence gets no one anywhere.
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Re: #U/C: The Precinct - 5 x 18 lvl - 58m towers

Postby Ben » Tue Nov 23, 2010 1:55 pm

"The Loft" is likely to be approved by the DAC on Thursday meeting after Urban Construct have addressed the DAC's original issues:

http://www.dac.sa.gov.au/index.cfm?objectid=C1142A03-F68D-11DF-8A6A000F2030D46A
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Re: #U/C: The Precinct - 5 x 18 lvl - 58m towers

Postby Just build it » Wed Nov 24, 2010 3:35 am

I want one of the undersize 48sq one beds with undersize balcony and concrete column obstructed car park space.

Sounds like a wonderfully 'urban' life. :toilet:
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Re: #U/C: The Precinct - 5 x 18 lvl - 58m towers

Postby omada » Wed Nov 24, 2010 9:45 am

I want one of the undersize 48sq one beds with undersize balcony and concrete column obstructed car park space.

Sounds like a wonderfully 'urban' life. :toilet:



This issue of small sqm living has come up in couple of threads of late. It is only in highly urbanised, or should I say "sub-urbanised" nations like Australia, US and Canada, that we have become fixated with owning a classic block of land, in Europe and in Asia, they have no problems living in small spaces. The difference being that their cities are more "active" than ours, ie public spaces, "community" etc. In our migration to the suburbs and the associated urban sprawl, our cities and indeed our society have lost the connections with space and community. If done properly, there is nothing wrong with living in one of these apartments. Disclaimer: I too live in one of these suburbs, with my block of land.
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Re: #U/C: The Precinct - 5 x 18 lvl - 58m towers

Postby Will » Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:16 am

omada wrote:
I want one of the undersize 48sq one beds with undersize balcony and concrete column obstructed car park space.

Sounds like a wonderfully 'urban' life. :toilet:



This issue of small sqm living has come up in couple of threads of late. It is only in highly urbanised, or should I say "sub-urbanised" nations like Australia, US and Canada, that we have become fixated with owning a classic block of land, in Europe and in Asia, they have no problems living in small spaces. The difference being that their cities are more "active" than ours, ie public spaces, "community" etc. In our migration to the suburbs and the associated urban sprawl, our cities and indeed our society have lost the connections with space and community. If done properly, there is nothing wrong with living in one of these apartments. Disclaimer: I too live in one of these suburbs, with my block of land.


But herein lies the problem. I too live in the suburbs in my detached house with a large backyard. I would love to live in the city, and would be happy to live without a backyard, but not too happy to live in something the size of my lounge room. Australians love to live in big houses, and I am sure the apartment market would boom if developers actually built apartments the average Australian would like to live in.

There is a space in the market for small apartments, however the market is not solely composed by Asian students.
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Re: #U/C: The Precinct - 5 x 18 lvl - 58m towers

Postby Waewick » Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:31 am

I wonder what the costs would be to build a whole tower of 100m2 apartments?

I would imagine it would be very very high
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Re: #U/C: The Precinct - 5 x 18 lvl - 58m towers

Postby Wayno » Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:36 am

capitalist wrote:I wonder what the costs would be to build a whole tower of 100m2 apartments?

I would imagine it would be very very high

probably less than building a similar tower of smaller apartments (potentially less plumbing for one thing). From an apartment purchase perspective the cost would probably be double that of a 2br apartment ($700k+)
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Re: #U/C: The Precinct - 5 x 18 lvl - 58m towers

Postby Waewick » Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:55 am

do you think the taller building heights being propsied would encourage more decent sized ones?

I would imagine it would be a benefit.
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Re: #U/C: The Precinct - 5 x 18 lvl - 58m towers

Postby skyliner » Wed Nov 24, 2010 5:10 pm

As someone else recently said, cost/demand factors would control this - evidenced in other capitals as taller bldgs.

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Re: #U/C: The Precinct - 5 x 18 lvl - 58m towers

Postby ghs » Thu Nov 25, 2010 9:57 pm

If all 5 of these developments go ahead and the other building on 176-178 Mortphett sreet
goes ahead then we'll end up with a nice community of apartments.... :)
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