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PRO: 123 Flinders Street | 135m | 39lvls | Mixed Use

Postby Howie » Sun Jul 31, 2011 4:46 pm

We've got an exclusive for you all this weekend.

Paul Pruszinski from Pruszinski Architects gave us the scoop on a pretty special development at 123 Flinders Street, to be submitted this Monday.

Details are 22 levels , approx 78m in height, mixed use comprising of retail then carparking, then office then some very unique apartments. The site is currently the little brick telstra exchange (to be demolished) and the adjoining open lot carpark.

Here are the renders... pretty radical for Adelaide I must say.

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Flyover up.. thanks to Paul Pruszinski

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Re: #PRO: 123 Flinders Street - 78m 22Lvl Mixed-Use

Postby rogue » Sun Jul 31, 2011 4:53 pm

Brilliant!

Cant wait to hear council comment on this one. They'll come out with something like "not keeping in character with the existing streetscape" or similar...
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Re: #PRO: 123 Flinders Street - 78m 22Lvl Mixed-Use

Postby Pistol » Sun Jul 31, 2011 4:58 pm

Like.

Yet I feel it will be dumbed down prior to construction...
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Re: #PRO: 123 Flinders Street - 78m 22Lvl Mixed-Use

Postby Howie » Sun Jul 31, 2011 5:01 pm

My understanding is that the client wants an "iconic" building, so the drivers for keeping it the way it is are there.
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Re: #PRO: 123 Flinders Street - 78m 22Lvl Mixed-Use

Postby Will » Sun Jul 31, 2011 5:02 pm

WOW! That looks amazing! :applause:


However, when presented with such proposals I always get very pessimistic, as I can foresee the ACC coming out and saying it is too tall; it doesn't fit in with the 'majestic pyrammid' skyline; it doesn't have enough masonry; it doesn't blend it.... :wallbash:
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Re: #PRO: 123 Flinders Street - 78m 22Lvl Mixed-Use

Postby mgb » Sun Jul 31, 2011 5:02 pm

Wow! that's amazing. I certainly would not want to be the structural engineer who has to do the calculations on that one.


rogue wrote:Brilliant!
Cant wait to hear council comment on this one. They'll come out with something like "not keeping in character with the existing streetscape" or similar...


too true.... that would probably prefer another carpark...
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Re: #PRO: 123 Flinders Street - 78m 22Lvl Mixed-Use

Postby AG » Sun Jul 31, 2011 5:06 pm

That looks like an architect's dream, and at the same time a structural engineer's worst nightmare! I'm sure AdelaideNow will be on to this one very quickly.
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Re: #PRO: 123 Flinders Street - 78m 22Lvl Mixed-Use

Postby Howie » Sun Jul 31, 2011 5:11 pm

AG wrote: I'm sure AdelaideNow will be on to this one very quickly.


Tomorrow the press release goes out so this is the first time the public has seen this render... big ups to Paul again!

I'm sure he'll be wrapped with the reaction it's getting on here so far.
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Re: #PRO: 123 Flinders Street - 78m 22Lvl Mixed-Use

Postby AG » Sun Jul 31, 2011 5:15 pm

Howie wrote:
AG wrote: I'm sure AdelaideNow will be on to this one very quickly.


Tomorrow the press release goes out so this is the first time the public has seen this render... big ups to Paul again!

I'm sure he'll be wrapped with the reaction it's getting on here so far.


Just quickly, there's a correction that needs to be done on the updated front page to the S-A website. 123 Flinders, not 123 Pulteney. :)
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Re: #PRO: 123 Flinders Street - 78m 22Lvl Mixed-Use

Postby Nathan » Sun Jul 31, 2011 5:23 pm

Wow, that's definitely out there. Not your typical Adelaide building.

I think it's great for the area, there's not much heritage buildings in the area (except the former church on the opposite corner) — so it would do a great job of making a fairly drab area of the city far more interesting.

And props to the client (whoever they are). It's refreshing to see someone wanting an exciting building rather than a 'maximise-floorspace-for-as-little-money-as-possible' that is the usual order of the day.
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Re: #PRO: 123 Flinders Street - 78m 22Lvl Mixed-Use

Postby Howie » Sun Jul 31, 2011 5:24 pm

Oh whoops.. thanks for that AG.
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Re: #PRO: 123 Flinders Street - 78m 22Lvl Mixed-Use

Postby metro » Sun Jul 31, 2011 5:34 pm

i nearly spat my coffee out at my laptop when i saw that :shock:

when i looked at the title i was expecting to see a plain old glass/concrete box. So this would certainly be a good change from all the other ordinary crap that keeps getting constructed in this city. :D

But we all know by now what happens to decent proposals in this city: approved by state government, council whinges, developers ultimately dumb it down, scale it back, cut the height in half, construct the 1st stage carpark and the rest is forgotten about. Lets hope it doesnt happen again with this proposal.
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Re: #PRO: 123 Flinders Street - 78m 22Lvl Mixed-Use

Postby SRW » Sun Jul 31, 2011 6:02 pm

I want it! I want it bad!

Good job Howie, and thanks Paul for the scoop! Do we know who the developer's are or what's the financing situation?
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Re: #PRO: 123 Flinders Street - 78m 22Lvl Mixed-Use

Postby mgb » Sun Jul 31, 2011 6:16 pm

It's interesting that they are looking to put the car parking above ground. Something we saw back with with Conservatory on Hindmarsh.

At least this means that the development will have to go ahead as a single stage, and not carpark first. I have to wonder though is it really that expensive to put the carpark underground? Or is it something else that is causing this new trend?

It appears that there will be 5 levels of parking, which seems like a waste of prime office space plus never really looks as good due to the ventilation requirements.


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Re: #PRO: 123 Flinders Street - 78m 22Lvl Mixed-Use

Postby AtD » Sun Jul 31, 2011 6:23 pm

How spectacular. I wonder what it'll look like from Hindmarsh Square.

Looks like 4 levels of car park, 4 levels of office and 12 levels of apartments, yeah? Some nice street interaction too. Where's the car park ramp?

So, the money: If it's just 4 levels of office I'd guess not much more than 4,000 sqm of office space looking at the site. Small fish. So apartment sales will make or break the finances I would guess.
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