[COM] SkyCity Adelaide Casino Expansion | 55m | 12 Levels | Hotel

[Will]

I invite anyone to slap me with a wet fish the day that 'pushbutton' finds some fun in his life. Cant see it happening any day soon unless he moves to Disneyland and is surrounded by roller coasters 24/7 and wakes to breakfast in bed with Mini Mouse.

+1 000 000

[claybro]

Some people seem to expect Australian Casinos to offer the same sort of attractions as Las Vegas. There would be a danger that if a single casino developement in any capital city featured such things as cinemas, show theatres, amusement parks and the like, they would suck the life out of the rest of the city. There simply is not the population, or enough money to warrant this, particularly in Adelaide. I think this developement actually strikes a good balance, in allowing some other precincts to continue to develope/ exist in their own right as well.

[Hooligan]

Some people seem to expect Australian Casinos to offer the same sort of attractions as Las Vegas. There would be a danger that if a single casino developement in any capital city featured such things as cinemas, show theatres, amusement parks and the like, they would suck the life out of the rest of the city. There simply is not the population, or enough money to warrant this, particularly in Adelaide. I think this developement actually strikes a good balance, in allowing some other precincts to continue to develope/ exist in their own right as well.

pushbutton needs more attractions though.

[Vee]

This redevelopment of the Casino, with addition of new restaurants and a high end hotel, will add significantly to its appeal to O/S and interstate visitors as well as locals. The 24/7 operations are a significant component in a modern city, irrespective of your views on casinos.

The restaurants will add extra options for Festival Events, Adelaide Oval events etc. I like the way the Casino's current North Restaurant (on Station Road) has a specific menu offering (selected and appropriately timed/delivered) to suit theatre/event goers on their way to shows eg Cabaret Festival etc.

This redevelopment is going to add to the vibe of the upgraded Riverbank precinct.
I'm really glad the Government announced the building of the footbridge will commence reasonably soon as it provides a vital pedestrian connection to the redeveloped Adelaide Oval. I was disappointed to hear local Member for Adelaide, Ms Sanderson, on ABC Radio recently joining the naysayers and opposing the footbridge. The Riverbank Precinct is for all South Australians (and visitors) not just the fortunate few who live in close proximity.

It's a mark of confidence in our state that the Casino will be investing in this upgrade and luxury hotel.

[Ben]

Some info from SkyCity ASX announcment today.

Unfortunatly still some time before we see any action. Estimated completion is mid 2017.

I found it funny how earlier is the document it mentions devlopemtns in the area and included "New Festival Square (like federation Square in melbourne)"



http://www.asx.com.au/asxpdf/20130213/p ... 605vpb.pdf

[Phantom]

How certain can you be of this expansion happening? As much as they've proposed the idea, haven't they had several ideas since the turn of the century to expand and relocate the Casino? I mean, I'm all for redevelopment and even more for them to move the Casino, but I'd love to see action taken on this fairly quickly. I always lose faith in these proposals of "Oh, we're deciding to do this... But we're going to start work in 2 and a half years time...". If the idea has already been in the pipelines for a good dozen years, then surely they can share slightly more informative ideas about their proposals to the community? I mean, it's not like another company is going to utilise their ideas and quickly swoop in and take what they're deciding on doing. They do have a monopoly on the whole "Gaming Market", and for the sounds of things will be holding it for quite some time, too...

I really hope that when they finally do decide to do something and start making inroads towards this expansion, that it doesn't look tacky and shithouse. Hell, the government has even gone out of their way to please the Casino for the interim, by placing the entrance to the Adelaide Oval - River Torrens bridge right outside the Casino's front door. Adelaide's been waiting on this expansion/relocation for far too long now, when it finally happens better be both asthetically pleasing and surely financially viable for the government and community... And hopefully a lot better than those renders of it that frankly look fairly bland.

[Paulns]

I wish Crown would buy it out, at least they can build a decent casino!

[Shahkar]

Here's a thought, probably not even possible but any ways, if the government had money to give out, move the railway station to the left of the skate park. Integrate trams, rail (maybe even bus?) together. We need activity on that side any ways and the hospital with be really close to the station. SkyCity gets the railway station and they build something absolutely amazing and huge by demolishing the building or at least the inside and build something completely retro. Possibly even a skyscraper to go with it.

[Nathan]

SkyCity gets the railway station and they build something absolutely amazing and huge by demolishing the building

Never ever ever going to happen.

[Patrick_27]

Here's a thought, probably not even possible but any ways, if the government had money to give out, move the railway station to the left of the skate park. Integrate trams, rail (maybe even bus?) together. We need activity on that side any ways and the hospital with be really close to the station. SkyCity gets the railway station and they build something absolutely amazing and huge by demolishing the building or at least the inside and build something completely retro. Possibly even a skyscraper to go with it.

First point, moving the main railway station further out of the CBD grid? No chance of that happening!

Second point, to even make suggestion of demolishing the Adelaide Railway Station/completely gutting it is offensive. It's one of few buildings left with such character and history.

I agree, the Casino needs it's own sole building, and as I've mentioned in another thread; I believe the current Hilton and Law Courts site would be perfect. But not at the expense of our states history/heritage.

I also agree that perhaps they should consider a multi transport station for light and heavy rail/bus. Perhaps a second city station in the Southern part of the CBD when an underground city loop is finally constructed with a similar concept to Southern Cross, interstate bus terminal, bus, tram connection and some kind of entertainment precinct around the station to keep pedestrian traffic flow moving throughout the area.

[Shahkar]

Here's a thought, probably not even possible but any ways, if the government had money to give out, move the railway station to the left of the skate park. Integrate trams, rail (maybe even bus?) together. We need activity on that side any ways and the hospital with be really close to the station. SkyCity gets the railway station and they build something absolutely amazing and huge by demolishing the building or at least the inside and build something completely retro. Possibly even a skyscraper to go with it.

First point, moving the main railway station further out of the CBD grid? No chance of that happening!

Second point, to even make suggestion of demolishing the Adelaide Railway Station/completely gutting it is offensive. It's one of few buildings left with such character and history.

I agree, the Casino needs it's own sole building, and as I've mentioned in another thread; I believe the current Hilton and Law Courts site would be perfect. But not at the expense of our states history/heritage.

I also agree that perhaps they should consider a multi transport station for light and heavy rail/bus. Perhaps a second city station in the Southern part of the CBD when an underground city loop is finally constructed with a similar concept to Southern Cross, interstate bus terminal, bus, tram connection and some kind of entertainment precinct around the station to keep pedestrian traffic flow moving throughout the area.

The north west area of North Terrace will only benefit by more developments. And I know the Railway Station should not be demolished. What I meant was in the future, if something were to happen to it(I hope not btw, don't eat me ). Getting wayy off topic anyways.

[peas_and_corn]

How certain can you be of this expansion happening? As much as they've proposed the idea, haven't they had several ideas since the turn of the century to expand and relocate the Casino? I mean, I'm all for redevelopment and even more for them to move the Casino, but I'd love to see action taken on this fairly quickly. I always lose faith in these proposals of "Oh, we're deciding to do this... But we're going to start work in 2 and a half years time...". If the idea has already been in the pipelines for a good dozen years, then surely they can share slightly more informative ideas about their proposals to the community? I mean, it's not like another company is going to utilise their ideas and quickly swoop in and take what they're deciding on doing. They do have a monopoly on the whole "Gaming Market", and for the sounds of things will be holding it for quite some time, too...

I really hope that when they finally do decide to do something and start making inroads towards this expansion, that it doesn't look tacky and shithouse. Hell, the government has even gone out of their way to please the Casino for the interim, by placing the entrance to the Adelaide Oval - River Torrens bridge right outside the Casino's front door. Adelaide's been waiting on this expansion/relocation for far too long now, when it finally happens better be both asthetically pleasing and surely financially viable for the government and community... And hopefully a lot better than those renders of it that frankly look fairly bland.

This. I'm tired of the talk, I'll believe an expansion will happen when the cranes are up.

[pushbutton]

I know the feeling. It's the same old problem we seem to have with every major development.

Far, far too much time is put into studies and surveys and consultations and so on. All of it costs big money, which would be much better spent actually building something!

Of course due consultation and consideration is important, but did it really have to take over 20 years to build the new airport, or to landscape Victoria Square, or to build a footbridge over the Torrens (just to give 3 obvious examples)?

Wasted time and wasted money (especially when it's my money) really annoy me (to put it politely)!

[ml69]

How certain can you be of this expansion happening? As much as they've proposed the idea, haven't they had several ideas since the turn of the century to expand and relocate the Casino? I mean, I'm all for redevelopment and even more for them to move the Casino, but I'd love to see action taken on this fairly quickly. I always lose faith in these proposals of "Oh, we're deciding to do this... But we're going to start work in 2 and a half years time...". If the idea has already been in the pipelines for a good dozen years, then surely they can share slightly more informative ideas about their proposals to the community? I mean, it's not like another company is going to utilise their ideas and quickly swoop in and take what they're deciding on doing. They do have a monopoly on the whole "Gaming Market", and for the sounds of things will be holding it for quite some time, too...

I really hope that when they finally do decide to do something and start making inroads towards this expansion, that it doesn't look tacky and shithouse. Hell, the government has even gone out of their way to please the Casino for the interim, by placing the entrance to the Adelaide Oval - River Torrens bridge right outside the Casino's front door. Adelaide's been waiting on this expansion/relocation for far too long now, when it finally happens better be both asthetically pleasing and surely financially viable for the government and community... And hopefully a lot better than those renders of it that frankly look fairly bland.

This one isn't pie in the sky ... it will happen. What's different this time is there is a compelling business case which stacks up. Regulatory regime is now determined, and Skycity stand to make an absolute killing due to extra foot traffic from Adelaide Oval and Convention Centre upgrade.

[Phantom]

This one isn't pie in the sky ... it will happen. What's different this time is there is a compelling business case which stacks up. Regulatory regime is now determined, and Skycity stand to make an absolute killing due to extra foot traffic from Adelaide Oval and Convention Centre upgrade.

I'm sure it will happen, but to me it seems like an inevitability, rather than something moreso set in stone. I dunno, after 12-13 years (Or possibly more that I haven't come across) of proposals towards a new or upgraded Casino, you kind of lose a touch of faith within their ability to actually make a firm decision when push comes to shove. I'm completely with what you said, Peas And Corn... I'll believe an expansion will happen when the cranes are up.