[VIS] New Adelaide High School Campus

[PeFe]

From News.com.au

Liberal Party's Adelaide High School design that's out of this world

An artist's impression of the new-look Adelaide High School second campus on West Tce, part of the Liberal Party's vision. Source: Supplied


ADELAIDE High would be expanded onto a second West Tce campus, linked to the existing site by a footbridge, under Liberal plans to make room for 1000 extra students.

Opposition Leader Steven Marshall will today announce $75 million plans for a new science and technology-focused school wing, which would also cater for Adelaide's fast-growing inner-city population.

The existing parklands campus is struggling to cope with demand and has limited capacity to expand. The Liberals claim up to three existing landholders directly opposite the current school on the city-side of West Tce would be prepared to tender for the project.

The succesful tenderer would fund construction of the new $75 million complex and an annual fee of about $6 million would be delivered to the land owner.

The Liberals have also pledged to expand the school's catchment zone to take in suburbs including Walkerville, Gilberton, Goodwood and Black Forest. It would also service Prospect, a key battleground in the seat of Adelaide.

The Liberals anticipate the final development could be up to seven storeys tall.

Mr Marshall said a competitive tender would deliver value for money and the new campus would be open in time for the 2018 school year. "Co-location with the current Adelaide High School site will allow both campuses to share new and existing infrastructure," he said. "Our commitment means more choice and better facilities."

Mr Marshall said increased focus on hard sciences and mathematics would help "stop the brain drain" to other states.

Greek Orthodox Community of SA president John Lesses said his organisation, which owns land about 200m south of the current school site, was willing to consider a tender.

"We would be interested in looking at some sort of venture that would protect the equity that the Greek Orthodox community has in the site," he said.

The Premier Jay Weatherill last November committed to build a second CBD campus with an extra 1000 students by 2019.

Expressions of interest have been called to identify potential sites.

established in 1908, Adelaide High was the first free high school in the state, having become a specialist language institution since 1979.

A Government spokesman responded late on Saturday night: "We don't believe parents of prospective students want a huge single-site school with 2500 students as has been proposed by the Liberal Party.

"We believe that the answer is to build a second school. That is our policy and we believe that is what the community wants.''

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[Patrick_27]

What an expensive school - $6 million per year in leasing the land on-top of operational costs which could be the same or more. Another half-hearted Liberal idea.

Build a school on the east side; have it specialise in Horticultural and Animal Science (with access to the the nearby Botanic Gardens and Adelaide Zoo.

If they were really on the ball, I'd like to have seen them build the new school on the east, move AHS' current intake into that campus and completely rebuild the old AHS site utilizing all the space available the land available then move AHS back into their new campus and begin accepting intake for the new eastern CBD school.

Also, why are we only looking at providing for high school education? There is so few options for primary school education in the CBD.

[crowdoc]

The design even looks like a thought bubble.

[Nathan]

Is there even room on the east side of West Tce close to the existing campus? I assume they're thinking of either the Mastracorp building (where Australia's Pizza House and Kresta are, or the land owned by the Greek Orthodox Community which I'm guessing is where Ray's Outdoors and Adelaide City Marine are. Neither site is particularly deep, constrained to the east by the Ipad Apartments, and the Greek Orthodox Church itself.

[metro]

I dont like the footbridge over the 'great western highway' there

[Aidan]

Also, why are we only looking at providing for high school education? There is so few options for primary school education in the CBD.

How many options do you think are needed? I don't think the CBD has that many primary school aged residents. Most of the families residing in the City live around the SW and SE corners, catered for with primary schools in Sturt Street and Gilles Street respectively.

The design even looks like a thought bubble.

The design looks like someone's reused an image of a building designed for Google!

[Aidan]

What an expensive school - $6 million per year in leasing the land on-top of operational costs which could be the same or more. Another half-hearted Liberal idea.

Build a school on the east side; have it specialise in Horticultural and Animal Science (with access to the the nearby Botanic Gardens and Adelaide Zoo.

Would there be that much demand for horticultural and animal sciences at high school level?

If they were really on the ball, I'd like to have seen them build the new school on the east, move AHS' current intake into that campus and completely rebuild the old AHS site utilizing all the space available the land available then move AHS back into their new campus and begin accepting intake for the new eastern CBD school.

First you complain about the expense, then you propose an extremely expensive plan that has the additional disadvantages of demolishing a very significant heritage listed building and building over more of the parklands!

Far better to extend the school under the parklands towards Mile End train station. But I suspect in the short term that would be much more expensive than what they're proposing.

[Patrick_27]

What an expensive school - $6 million per year in leasing the land on-top of operational costs which could be the same or more. Another half-hearted Liberal idea.

Build a school on the east side; have it specialise in Horticultural and Animal Science (with access to the the nearby Botanic Gardens and Adelaide Zoo.

Would there be that much demand for horticultural and animal sciences at high school level?

If they were really on the ball, I'd like to have seen them build the new school on the east, move AHS' current intake into that campus and completely rebuild the old AHS site utilizing all the space available the land available then move AHS back into their new campus and begin accepting intake for the new eastern CBD school.

First you complain about the expense, then you propose an extremely expensive plan that has the additional disadvantages of demolishing a very significant heritage listed building and building over more of the parklands!

Far better to extend the school under the parklands towards Mile End train station. But I suspect in the short term that would be much more expensive than what they're proposing.

Yep, as a former student of Urrbrae Agricultural High School I saw how tough entry was - by application. Students travelling from far north and far south. Painting that into perspective for how popular it could be for a CBD High School.

I'm complaining about the ****On-going**** expense. $6 million a year could fund such the idea I provided within five years. I mad no mention of building over more park-land - I said to build upward. And remind me what is "very significant" about these buildings? Sure, Art-Deco; I get it. But we've waved good-bye to plenty of Art-Deco buildings with little opposition, why should we cry and stomp when a building of these type comes in the way of a major development?
Don't get me wrong, I love and wish to preserve heritage as much as possible (where possible) but sometimes things need to change to protect other assets (i.e. park-lands.

[Torrens_5022]

Why does it need to be joint to the current high school? Would It be better to spend the money on a senior school for SACE years 11-12 (13) somewhere else in the CBD - there are plenty of sites it could be built on.

[Vee]

Wow! A school building up to 7 storeys tall.
Imagine the stairs - great for tackling obesity in children and teachers! Or will it have a massive set of lifts and or escalator thingy?? (Normally lifts cater for the disabled; everyone else uses the stairs).
HS students and lifts? - not a great combination. And lifts are expensive to build and maintain.

HS students and their teachers make many trips during the school day between lessons, specialist labs, resource centre etc as well as movements in and out of the building - before and after school, recess, lunch. 7 storeys - great?!!?!

Wow! $6million dollars rent per year (with increases due to inflation).
Why not build in another area of the park lands with adjacent sporting fields or near parklands location - near the Old Adelaide Gaol/on the existing Police complex (shambolic collection of buildings). The Police complex, road safety training school and police horses stables can be relocated somewhere else.
This site is well served by public transport and has space for sports fields.

Wow! A very long overpass over West Terrace to connect the two campuses.
Better not roster teachers between the campuses, or allow extra time between lessons. When Christies Beach HS had two campuses, some teachers had to drive between them during the day. Will teachers have to do overpass duty to monitor major movements before/after school (duty of care)?
Will students need to cross over between campuses to use specialist facilities or will they be replicated? Time, cost.

Wow! 2,500 students.
That's in the American league. Too big, too impersonal - nowhere near ideal. Too few - restricts curriculum choices, extra curricular options. Too many - breeds problems.
As the govt. Spokesperson said...

"We don't believe parents of prospective students want a huge single-site school with 2500 students as has been proposed by the Liberal Party.
"We believe that the answer is to build a second school. That is our policy and we believe that is what the community wants.''

Wow! That building design.
Is it real or an artistic mockup? What will it really look like, once real needs, learning design and budgetary constraints pitch in?
And an expensive overpass?

Wow? Not for me.

[Honey of a City]

And all this from the people who tried to stop the Torrens footbridge.

[Brando]

Gee, I thought I was reading your typical Adelaide Now comments for a while there.....

[Waewick]

Gee, I thought I was reading your typical Adelaide Now comments for a while there.....

I know. This thread isn't what I was expecting.

I can't work out the build cost. Is the government paying that and then renting?

[Vee]

Gee, I thought I was reading your typical Adelaide Now comments for a while there.....

There is opportunity in this forum for anyone to make the pro case for a seven storey high school building to cater for a student population of 2,500 (including students with disabilities) in a multi-campus institution, connected by a long overpass to link different facilities/resources, staffrooms and administration and open space/sports fields and gym/hall.

And provide suggestions for alternatives to a 7 storey building (with a $6million per yr rental) on West Terrace if not enamoured of the above proposal.

[Waewick]

Gee, I thought I was reading your typical Adelaide Now comments for a while there.....

There is opportunity in this forum for anyone to make the pro case for a seven storey high school building to cater for a student population of 2,500 (including students with disabilities) in a multi-campus institution, connected by a long overpass to link different facilities/resources, staffrooms and administration and open space/sports fields and gym/hall.

And provide suggestions for alternatives to a 7 story building (with a $6million per yr rental) on West Terrace if not enamoured of the above proposal.

Many schools have different campuses, who is to suggest that they won't have a Junior/Senior split or something similar?

I don't understand why an overpass is an issue either?

Given the School is on the parklands and there is no other space..and we are always keen to see the Western portion of the CBD utilised I reckon this is a great idea, especially given the Uni SA upgrades, there is going to be a really impressive education hub in that area.

What I am still not sure of, is why we would be paying $6M a year if we are also paying the 75M build cost.