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The council hopes to begin demolition of the existing Central Market Arcade in May 2021 – a delay from the original target of September 2020, which the council says was to allow the 61 traders currently operating in the arcade the opportunity to earn over the busy Christmas trading period.
Spoken like someone who never frequents the Central Markets, because ask anyone who does and they will tell you that the Markets don't need to be 'transformed' even those people who have progressive ideas. Sure, the arcade is a dive, but building a 135m high-rise building above doesn't add anything to the Markets, it just puts the pre-existing long-term retailers at risk for a duration, which some of the better retailers have already chosen not to renew their lease with this development imminent, so it's already upsetting the world renowned quality of the Markets. It's such a noob attitude, and something I usually expect a lot from those in government, when someone says that something needs to be 'transformed' when it's actually been doing just fine without said 'transformation'. What's that expression, if it ain't broke, don't fix it...
I understand some market traders are nervous about the inconvenience during construction, but others I have heard from fully expect the whole precinct to be better off for the arcade transformation. The redevelopment won't change the market hall itself and is about more than just a 135m tower. It's the renewal of an entire city block. It's a nonsense to pretend the arcade is perfect as-is and that there's no potential to be unleashed because of some inconveniences that can be managed -- for instance, council has already offered to make additional parking available at the bus layover to compensate for the temporary loss.Patrick_27 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 11:43 amSpoken like someone who never frequents the Central Markets, because ask anyone who does and they will tell you that the Markets don't need to be 'transformed' even those people who have progressive ideas. Sure, the arcade is a dive, but building a 135m high-rise building above doesn't add anything to the Markets, it just puts the pre-existing long-term retailers at risk for a duration, which some of the better retailers have already chosen not to renew their lease with this development imminent, so it's already upsetting the world renowned quality of the Markets. It's such a noob attitude, and something I usually expect a lot from those in government, when someone says that something needs to be 'transformed' when it's actually been doing just fine without said 'transformation'. What's that expression, if it ain't broke, don't fix it...
I do frequent the markets, and I fully support the redevelopment. The arcade is a depressing mess that actively kills links to the street and the square and it absolutely needs to be replaced. The development puts more people in the area (that aren't driving), massively improves the Grote St frontage, and will allow for a greater variety and quality of outlets that compliment the main market.Patrick_27 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 11:43 amSpoken like someone who never frequents the Central Markets, because ask anyone who does and they will tell you that the Markets don't need to be 'transformed' even those people who have progressive ideas. Sure, the arcade is a dive, but building a 135m high-rise building above doesn't add anything to the Markets, it just puts the pre-existing long-term retailers at risk for a duration, which some of the better retailers have already chosen not to renew their lease with this development imminent, so it's already upsetting the world renowned quality of the Markets. It's such a noob attitude, and something I usually expect a lot from those in government, when someone says that something needs to be 'transformed' when it's actually been doing just fine without said 'transformation'. What's that expression, if it ain't broke, don't fix it...
The arcade is a depressing mess, sure, so replace it. Do we need to draw out a demolition/construction phase any longer by adding a high-rise building on top? No. There are plenty of nearby spots you can expand on local residency, the old bus terminal for instance without needing to take up the airspace over the Markets. And on your point of greater variety and quality, both already exist, most of what will end up in this new arcade will be major/chain food retailers willing to pay more in rent which will ultimately result in a hiking up in the price of rent for those retailers who do a roaring trade but can't necessarily survive with an increase in rent. There are limits to what is good about this redevelopment just as there are limits to what is bad.Nathan wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 12:23 pmI do frequent the markets, and I fully support the redevelopment. The arcade is a depressing mess that actively kills links to the street and the square and it absolutely needs to be replaced. The development puts more people in the area (that aren't driving), massively improves the Grote St frontage, and will allow for a greater variety and quality of outlets that compliment the main market.Patrick_27 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 11:43 amSpoken like someone who never frequents the Central Markets, because ask anyone who does and they will tell you that the Markets don't need to be 'transformed' even those people who have progressive ideas. Sure, the arcade is a dive, but building a 135m high-rise building above doesn't add anything to the Markets, it just puts the pre-existing long-term retailers at risk for a duration, which some of the better retailers have already chosen not to renew their lease with this development imminent, so it's already upsetting the world renowned quality of the Markets. It's such a noob attitude, and something I usually expect a lot from those in government, when someone says that something needs to be 'transformed' when it's actually been doing just fine without said 'transformation'. What's that expression, if it ain't broke, don't fix it...
Why not both? From what I understand, this will be a staged development such that the retail and car parking levels (which will continue to be owned by council) will be constructed first and open to trade while buildings above continue to rise.Patrick_27 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 3:40 pmThe arcade is a depressing mess, sure, so replace it. Do we need to draw out a demolition/construction phase any longer by adding a high-rise building on top? No. There are plenty of nearby spots you can expand on local residency, the old bus terminal for instance without needing to take up the airspace over the Markets.
