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Re: Glenside redevelopment

#46 Post by Ho Really » Thu May 29, 2008 12:28 am

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Ho Really wrote:Norman, thanks for linking the images, in particular the last one of the site plan. As I mentioned earlier, I think building on the majority of that green space (the oval etc.) will be a huge mistake.

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But aren't they building on the oval, but making a huge park comprising a village green and a wetland? Meaning that there'll be more greenspace that can be better used by residents instead of just an oval?
Yes true, but it seems that there won't be another oval replacing the present one which is used regularly (by a school and sporting groups). The other issue which should be looked at very closely is the impact of extra traffic in and around the retail and commercial precincts on Fullarton Road (and adjacent to intersection of Glen Osmond Road).

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#47 Post by monotonehell » Thu May 29, 2008 12:35 am

Ho Really wrote:Yes true, but it seems that there won't be another oval replacing the present one which is used regularly (by a school and sporting groups). The other issue which should be looked at very closely is the impact of extra traffic in and around the retail and commercial precincts on Fullarton Road (and adjacent to intersection of Glen Osmond Road).
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Re: Glenside redevelopment

#48 Post by adam73837 » Sun Jun 01, 2008 7:10 pm

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The other issue which should be looked at very closely is the impact of extra traffic in and around the retail and commercial precincts on Fullarton Road (and adjacent to intersection of Glen Osmond Road).
Cheers[/quote]

That's why I stated that they sould widen Fullarton road and make it have 3-4 lanes on each side to allow for a bit of flexibility what with the new filming industry and retail precinct.
BTW, if anyone's feeling depressed, Google Adelaide Parklands Preservation Association and go onto their website. It will either make you even more depressed at the realisation that these are the kind of people running our city or it will make you laugh at their strange beliefs.
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Re: Glenside redevelopment

#49 Post by monotonehell » Sun Jun 01, 2008 7:23 pm

adam73837 wrote:BTW, if anyone's feeling depressed, Google Adelaide Parklands Preservation Association and go onto their website. It will either make you even more depressed at the realisation that these are the kind of people running our city or it will make you laugh at their strange beliefs.
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APPA don't run our city, they're just a community (in)action group. Also most of what they have on their website is fairly reasonable, it's their actions and statements in public that are annoying and unreasonable.
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#50 Post by adam73837 » Tue Jun 17, 2008 1:14 am

Check this out! It was on the APPA's "Heritage Listing" Page:
'It is our task in our time and in our generation, to hand down undiminished to those who come after us, as was handed down to us by those who went before, the natural wealth and beauty which is ours.'
John F Kennedy
Yeah! I agree, but somehow I don't think JFK was referring to weed infested, under utilised so-called "parks". Somehow I reckon things like "World Peace", etc. would be a little closer to the mark...
Anyway, back to the Glenside Development(s).
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Re: Glenside redevelopment

#51 Post by Ben » Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:43 pm

God forbid a "massive" ten story building in surburbia!

From Vickie Chapman's website:
Say no to 10 storeys at Glenside

Monday, June 29, 2009

Liberal MPs are calling on the Government to immediately quash a proposal to build ten storey buildings on the Glenside Hospital Campus.

Local MPs Vickie Chapman and David Pisoni want the entire hospital site retained for current and future mental health services and say the proposal which has been put forward by the owners of the Frewville Shopping Centre is outrageous.

Despite the 10 storey proposal being published on the Planning SA website no public comment or proposal has been put forward by the Chapleys or the Government.

“The Chapley Group have already been given preferential treatment by the State Government and now they are trying to push that one step further by requesting the Planning Minister sign off on ten storey buildings at Glenside” Ms Chapman said.

“The Rann Government is intent on carving up Glenside for private developers and progressing a film hub at enormous cost without considering the needs of mental health patients and local residents.

“Glenside is an invaluable asset and should be kept free from massive commercial development” Ms Chapman said.

Mr Pisoni said enough was enough and the Government had to intervene

“A ten storey building at Glenside is simply out of the question.

“It won’t blend with the rest of the campus and will be an eyesore for local residents.

The Chapley’s proposal was made as part of their submission to Planning SA regarding the Glenside Hospital DPA which is required to allow the Government to turn the hospital site into a mixed purpose shopping and housing development.

Full details of the DPA and the Chapley’s proposals can be found at www.planning.sa.gov.au

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Re: Glenside redevelopment

#52 Post by adam73837 » Sun Jul 05, 2009 7:00 pm

I live in the Eastern Suburbs and attend Glenunga High which is a few streets away from Glenside. I have also attended a soccer clinic at the oval in the past and work at the Foodland next door. I'll be honest, I don't have the best knowledge on how many people use the area for leisure, but from what I've seen, the only people that use it are the Mental Health Patients; hence the reason that I get VERY angry seeing letter from people of the eastern suburbs in the Advertiser stating that they don't want to see this space redeveloped :roll: . Now I don't have a knowledge of what is required for rehabilitation, but if an open space is needed, then we should be careful with how much of the site is redeveloped. However if it is not quite so vital, then we should allow a reasonable amount of development there.
Now as for the Film Industry, I also personally can't see the necessity of having it located at Glenside. Why not locate it somewhere in the 'Light Square Vicinity' where the TAFE College is and the Univeristy of South Australia? Would that not also coincide greatly with building an entertainment precinct (that DOES NOT have to contain a stadium)?
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Re: Glenside redevelopment

#53 Post by fabricator » Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:03 am

http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/stor ... 82,00.html
Glenside redevelopment approval 'window dressing'
Article from: The Australian

August 07, 2009 12:01am

THE redevelopment of Glenside is a step closer after Urban Development and Planning Minister Paul Holloway today approved zoning changes.

Mr Holloway said he had approved some changes to the original proposal.

"The increased areas of open space, particularly in the north-west corner of the site, aim to encourage stormwater management that will enhance the pleasant environment for recreation and relaxation that exists on the Glenside campus," he said.

But local MP Vickie Chapman said the approval was "mere window dressing" for the removal of the hospital and the building of the new film hub.

"They have emptied patients and staff to facilitate the construction of the Premier's pet project while delaying the construction of a desperately needed health facility for two years, saying they can't afford it," she said.

"(This approval) is mere window dressing to satisfy the legislative requirements."
I have to agree with Vickie Chapman on this, its a pathetic snow job.
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Re: Glenside redevelopment

#54 Post by AtD » Fri Aug 07, 2009 8:47 pm

A bit of housekeeping.

Please keep this thread for bricks and mortar type issues.

Other discussion has been given its own thread here:
http://www.sensational-adelaide.com/for ... f=4&t=2509

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Re: Glenside redevelopment

#55 Post by Mants » Sat Aug 22, 2009 3:30 pm

Screen centre far too small
Article from: The Advertiser

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ANDREW FENTON

August 22, 2009 12:01am

AUSTRALIAN studios can't keep up with the demand from Hollywood - but the $43 million Adelaide Film and Screen Centre will be far too small to attract major films.

Blockbuster producer of Lethal Weapon and Sherlock Holmes Joel Silver complained last week he wanted to shoot more blockbusters in Australia but local studios were "too busy".

"We filmed a couple of movies in Sydney and a couple on the Gold Coast, but now everybody is there so when we want to go there is no space available," he said. "Everything is booked. It's just a shame."

Bragg MP Vickie Chapman said a respected local filmmaker who wanted to remain anonymous had also complained the new SA studios will be far too small for major productions.

"We're missing out because the Government has refused to provide an international-size studio," she said. "Nicole Kidman will never come here because of the size of our studios."

Work is expected to begin on the centre in October. It has been very well received by the local industry, but opponents led by Ms Chapman argue the Glenside location is an "insult to mental health needs" and that it could be built more economically elsewhere .

The complex includes two sound stages of 400 sq m and 1000 sq m.

Director Bruce Beresford, who made his career-defining film Breaker Morant in SA said the size was appropriate. "That's pretty big," he said. "You probably couldn't make a film like Australia, but you could make all sorts of things.

The new centre's largest stage is about one third the size of the largest one at Fox Studios in Sydney. However, it's roughly equivalent in size - or slightly bigger - than four of the eight other stages at Fox.

And the SAFC stages are expected to be considerable cheaper to hire which is expected to attract domestic production.

Wolf Creek producer David Lightfoot said the interstate studios were unaffordable. "The average Aussie budget means you can't afford to go there," he said. He added the new centre's inner city location had big benefits in terms of ease of access.

SA Film Corporation CEO Richard Harris said the screen centre has been specifically designed to cater for independent domestic production.

That means small to medium sized feature films and TV series, potentially including high end TV drama production most of which has bypassed SA because the current SAFC sound stages are manifestly inadequate.

Economic analysis suggests it will result in the local film industry doubling in size.

The centre also includes 1,234 square metres of production facilities - offices, dressing rooms and art departments - and 684 square metres of post production facilities for editing, sound mixing and screening.

Mr Harris said most of the controversy around the centre was due to public anger over the Glenside redevelopment.

"We've come out first and all of the concerns about the whole master plan get focused on us - and that's unfortunate because I think we're a really good news story," he said.

Ms Chapman also argued the studios could have been built more cheaply elsewhere because only $19 million was being spent on production facilities, with most of the remaining money was tied up redeveloping office space in the main "clock tower" heritage building.

Lachlan Harris, spokesman for the Premier Mike Rann said $8 million was being spent on the clock tower building. Responding to Ms Chapman's concerns about mental health needs he said the Government was building new "$130 million mental Health Hospital" at Glenside

Emmy award-winning director Mario Andreacchio (Elephant Tales) said structural changes in the industry meant independent film producers will increasingly need to work under "umbrella organisations" and the new centre catered to that need.

"The downside is that it centralises the industry which can be good or bad depending on how it works," he said.
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#56 Post by stumpjumper » Sun Aug 23, 2009 6:49 pm

I agree. If it must be done, we should do it properly.

However, in designing and building the new film hub, the government is relying on a 'comprehensive and expert business plan' for the facility, prepared by Connell Wagner (now Aurecon).

Considering that the 24 employees of the SA Film Corporation haven't made a feature film for 29 years and between them lose around $5,000,000 per year (made up by taxpayer subsidies), it would be interesting to see the business plan.

The cost of the report is confidential ('commercial in confidence) as is the report itself ('commercial in confidence'). Details of the proposed facility, other than what has been released by the Premier's Dept are unavailable ('commercial in confidence'). The whole proposal bypassed the Burnside Council and Planning SA - it's being handled direct from the Premier's office, underlining that in SA, the planning system is for only for those who don't have the pull to 'deal direct'.

I'd like to know why, if we must develop the Glenside site, a report so fundamental to the redevelopment's land use as the film hub business plan is secret.

I'd also like to know if any other uses were considered for the site than the uses now proposed. That information, I was told by the Premier's Department, is 'commercial in confidence'.

As to the housekeeping note from AtD about discussing bricks and mortar here, I'd be interested in discussing both, but there is no information available.

A footnote: "But we disclose everything!" - Mike Rann, August 2009.

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#57 Post by monotonehell » Sun Aug 23, 2009 7:42 pm

stumpjumper wrote:...the SA Film Corporation haven't made a feature film for 29 years...
Stumpy, you stated this a couple of times, but I just did a very cursory Google search and came up with a number;
Beautiful
The Last Dragon
Auction
Home

Those are just the feature films, there's also a number of short films and feature documentaries lists around the place.
stumpjumper wrote:...and between them lose around $5,000,000 per year (made up by taxpayer subsidies), it would be interesting to see the business plan...
Again I'm very lazy so I only looked at their books for June 2009. They handed out around 400,000 in funding to various projects and events. 355,000 of that to the "Brothers at war" drama production. http://www.brothersatwar.com

If you multiply 400,000 by twelve months you come to close to five million.
EDIT: I looked back another 6 months and the 400k figure was way above their spend for the previous 6 months.

How about you do a lot more research (than I have) before you continue this path?
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#58 Post by fabricator » Mon Aug 24, 2009 1:45 am

Can't they just borrow one of the Royal Show pavilions for a studio set ?
I mean they are certainly huge enough, and not in use most of the time. Not ideal I know but a good stop gap solution until we get something bigger built.

The proposed Glenside sound stage of 1000 sq m is a joke, being 31x31 meters. Some people have their houses on bigger lots.
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Re: Glenside redevelopment

#59 Post by rhino » Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:53 am

stumpjumper wrote:...the SA Film Corporation haven't made a feature film for 29 years...
Beutiful Kate is currently screening - partly shot at the studios of the South Australian Film Corporation at Hendon.
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#60 Post by Port Adelaide Fan » Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:10 pm

$67m Glenside shopping village unveiled

DESIGNS for a $67 million shopping and office precinct, which developers say has the potential to create more than 800 jobs on land within the Glenside Hospital Campus, were unveiled yesterday.

Commercial Retail Group yesterday lodged a development application for the 15,000sq m project with Burnside Council.

The plans include underground parking for 800 cars, cafes, a restaurant and piazza for alfresco dining.

The existing Foodland supermarket and shopping centre – on the north-eastern corner of Fullarton and Glen Osmond roads – would be demolished and replaced by the new precinct.

Commercial Retail Group, the owner of the centre, has described the plan for the area of land known as Precinct 4 in the State Government's Glenside master plan as a "visionary village".

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