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Re: Hardened Networked Army (HNA)

Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 7:18 pm
by aceman
Go to this address: http://digital.realviewtechnologies.com ... s_army.xml

Then go to page 18 and 19 for a full story and renders.

Re: Hardened Networked Army (HNA)

Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 11:13 pm
by Professor
This is a major project that will have a significant impact on Adelaide.

Greater defence force presence via the AWD and the HNA will add many jobs, opportunities and some balance to the SA economy and construction industry.. Great news!

Re: Hardened Networked Army (HNA)

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 8:52 am
by aceman
We have to thank the former Liberal government for this with their strong SA representation. Now with fewer South Ozzies in K Rudds party it may be harder in the future to nab such projects/relocations.

Re: Hardened Networked Army (HNA)

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 9:53 am
by Will
aceman wrote:We have to thank the former Liberal government for this with their strong SA representation. Now with fewer South Ozzies in K Rudds party it may be harder in the future to nab such projects/relocations.
Dont forget that Nick Xenophon technically holds the balance of power in the senate...

Re: 2500 new homes for Gawler East

Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 7:14 am
by Wilfy 2007
Good morning,

Has there been anymore information about this project?

Any news on what the Gawler Council has decided about Public Transport for this development?

Seems to have gone quite all of a sudden.

Regards,

Re: 2500 new homes for Gawler East

Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 12:36 pm
by Cruise
Wilfy 2007 wrote:Good morning,

Thank you, good morning to you
Wilfy 2007 wrote:
Has there been anymore information about this project?

Any news on what the Gawler Council has decided about Public Transport for this development?

Seems to have gone quite all of a sudden.

Regards,
No new news as yet

Re: 2500 new homes for Gawler East

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 6:27 pm
by pushbutton
Personally I don't think we've got anything to worry about! Delfin always do a fantastic job of making their developments well planned, well serviced and very appealing in every way.

I think Adelaide needs a good mix of low, medium and high density dwellings. There has until recently been almost exclusively low density in the suburbs, but that has now changed and is continuing to change.

There is major investment in public transport happening in the next 5-10 years, more than has happened in SA since the original railway tracks were laid, so I hardly think we should be whinging about that really.

The new development at Gawler should be great, and the idea for the long term in Adelaide (in case anyone missed it in the news) is that commuting between suburbs will be minimised by creating medium density hubs with a good variety of commercial services and jobs all centred around where public transport serves best.

That is to me an excellent strategy to minimise traffic congestion and maximise use of public transport.

Re: 2500 new homes for Gawler East

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 6:46 pm
by AtD
pushbutton wrote:Personally I don't think we've got anything to worry about! Delfin always do a fantastic job of making their developments well planned, well serviced and very appealing in every way.

...

That is to me an excellent strategy to minimise traffic congestion and maximise use of public transport.
I'd like to point out that being Delfin doesn't make it sound town planning. Take Golden Grove, for example.
- An over-emphasis on greenery that will cost far too much for the local council to maintain. I remember TTG saying if/when Delfin hand the landscaping over to the council, they'll be forced to let it die. This was before water restrictions.
- A high crime rate because of its distance from the nearest Police Station. This was addressed recently by closing the station in Para Hills (a low median income area) and moving it to Golden Grove (a high median income area).
- The usual car dependence. Admitedly, PT ridership is higher than Adelaide's median due to the proximity to the O-Bahn, but still low when viewed nationally.

Re: 2500 new homes for Gawler East

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 7:24 pm
by Cruise
Go to Mawson Lakes ATD and tell me it has all the same problems as Golden Grove.

Delfin has changed it's ways.

Re: 2500 new homes for Gawler East

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 7:54 pm
by AtD
Well one problem with Mawson Lakes is the town centre embraces the main road and the train station is an afterthought. Of course there’s the legacy issue from the UniSA campus.

My point being is I strongly advice against putting faith in a company to act responsibly and therefore dismiss any scrutiny against it. You can't say it's Delfin (or Apple, Holden, etc.) therefore it must be good, and not place any further though. Businesses exist for one reason and one reason only, anything more than that is a pretence.

Re: 2500 new homes for Gawler East

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:21 pm
by pushbutton
I completely agree that there are problems with Golden Grove, but this is the exception to the normal rule with Delfin and all their current and recent developments are outstanding in every respect.

Re: 2500 new homes for Gawler East

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:22 pm
by pushbutton
Yes of course Delfin exists to make money, but they are only able to do so as successfully as they are because of their reputation and they need to maintain very high standards in their developments in order to maintain this reputation.

Re: 2500 new homes for Gawler East

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 9:43 pm
by cruel_world00
Maybe 2500 new homes could be created in affordable housing in the city instead of contributing to urban sprawl?

Re: 2500 new homes for Gawler East

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:04 pm
by pushbutton
A lot of people use the term "Urban sprawl" as if expansion of suburban boundaries is automatically a bad thing, but in the context of what I said a few posts ago (how the government is planning and promoting medium density 'hubs' around public transport) there is nothing wrong with Adelaide expanding its boundaries a bit. That is, provided of course that such developments are well planned, well integrated and well serviced by utilities, shops, jobs, facilities etc.

Re: 2500 new homes for Gawler East

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:11 pm
by monotonehell
pushbutton wrote:A lot of people use the term "Urban sprawl" as if expansion of suburban boundaries is automatically a bad thing, but in the context of what I said a few posts ago (how the government is planning and promoting medium density 'hubs' around public transport) there is nothing wrong with Adelaide expanding its boundaries a bit. That is, provided of course that such developments are well planned, well integrated and well serviced by utilities, shops, jobs, facilities etc.
You're equating the terms "urban sprawl" which tends to be a prejorative and describes the misuse of land with "urban expansion" which tends to a more neutral term.

It's all pedantics anyway ;)