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All high-rise, low-rise and street developments in areas other than the CBD and North Adelaide. Includes Port Adelaide and Glenelg.
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#46 Post by crawf » Fri May 11, 2007 1:04 am

I couldn't find anything on Google or the Marion Council website so I'm not sure.

Though it would be great if there was mini westwood development there.

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#47 Post by rhino » Fri May 11, 2007 7:50 am

Sounds like a bit of Urban Renewal, a la Mitchell Park, to me. You'll probably find at least double the number of homes going back in there.

While I can see the benefits of medium density housing only 8km from the city, a part of me pines for the old 1/4 acre (1000 sqare metres for those of you born post-1973) block with enough room for kids to kick a footy in the back yard or play a game of back-yard cricket, especially in these days where it just ain't safe to let your kids disappear down to the local park for 3 hours at a time. Medium-density housing is more aligned with virtual backyard cricket on the computer and overweight kids who need to be enertained because they've forgotten (or never learned) how to play.

Having said that about land close in, the outer suburbs like Munno Para West are going the same way. I thought it was just developers and councils being greedy (more blocks of land in a given area means more money), but I found a developer out there amongst them (at Munno Para West) who subdivided his land into 1000sqm blocks, only about 3 or 4 thousand dollars dearer than the 450sqm blocks surrounding it, but they weren't selling.
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#48 Post by jimmy_2486 » Fri May 11, 2007 11:02 am

rhino wrote:Sounds like a bit of Urban Renewal, a la Mitchell Park, to me. You'll probably find at least double the number of homes going back in there.
Yeah I think you are right because they have already put about 4-5 blocks only 400-450 sqm up for sale where the original blocks were double that. Those blocks have sold literally straight away, because of their position of being a few km from Marion AND Glenelg. Also This development will be a bit different than Mitchell park as it is far closer to glenelg, so it will be interesting to see what will happen to land value here when it is done.

rhino wrote:Having said that about land close in, the outer suburbs like Munno Para West are going the same way. I thought it was just developers and councils being greedy (more blocks of land in a given area means more money), but I found a developer out there amongst them (at Munno Para West) who subdivided his land into 1000sqm blocks, only about 3 or 4 thousand dollars dearer than the 450sqm blocks surrounding it, but they weren't selling.
Well I guess with that said, Factors of the area not being serviced well could be the cause of the land not selling being that large. I mean near munno parra west I've seen a whole estate built and the letters of the estate being ripped off by vandles.

What I am trying to say is building too far out can have its consequesnces as there are still a lot of areas to fill a lot closer to the city which will suit professional people and only the riff raff will be living in those areas. However there will be exceptions to this i'm sure.

I will try and get some pictures up soon so keep an eye out.

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#49 Post by DudleyDog » Tue May 15, 2007 4:55 pm

I doubt it. I've just found out this has now been rezoned residential and will eventually be developed into a new housing estate (long before Cheltenham gets decided).

Anyone know anymore info?

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Re: New Development in Park Holme!

#50 Post by jimmy_2486 » Mon Jun 04, 2007 8:16 pm

As promised.....some pics of the northern streets of park holme!!!!

Apologies if some look crap!!

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A bitta work in progress!!!
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Anyone else seen this??
This is a sign of a changing southwest, but being only 4km from colley tce and Marion shopping center it is inevitable that it was going to happen!!!

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#51 Post by crawf » Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:42 am

Ahh finally I get to see these pictures, you are right it is looking pretty baron.

Looks like it will be a fair sized development

Thanks for the pics mate.

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Re: New Development in Park Holme!

#52 Post by jimmy_2486 » Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:28 pm

This is my idea of the situation, before elizabeth was designed alot of spots in the inner city area were used by the housing trust. These ex housing trust houses were soo old and abandoned for soo many years. So im guessing they will never get use of them anymore they have finally bulldozed them over and are selling them off. Now for an area 4km from colley tce and 4km from marion shopping centre and then new swimming centre it is a very smart move. Im guessing there will be alot of newer style townhouse estates being built in the area. None of these have started up yet but there is still a fair bit of bulldosing to go. Be very interesting to see what will happen.

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Re: New Development in Park Holme!

#53 Post by .::G!oRgOs::. » Wed Jun 13, 2007 4:07 pm

Certainly looks like they are getting rid of housing trust down there.

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Re: New Development in Park Holme!

#54 Post by bmw boy » Wed Jun 13, 2007 4:44 pm

it will be good to see the area updated... especially with its location so close to glenelg. Hopefully they will build some nice homes, instead of those mass produced and very similar styles you see popping up when large areas of land become available.

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#55 Post by SRW » Wed Jun 13, 2007 6:56 pm

jimmy_2486 wrote:This is my idea of the situation, before elizabeth was designed alot of spots in the inner city area were used by the housing trust. These ex housing trust houses were soo old and abandoned for soo many years. So im guessing they will never get use of them anymore they have finally bulldozed them over and are selling them off. Now for an area 4km from colley tce and 4km from marion shopping centre and then new swimming centre it is a very smart move. Im guessing there will be alot of newer style townhouse estates being built in the area. None of these have started up yet but there is still a fair bit of bulldosing to go. Be very interesting to see what will happen.
Yes, they are demolishing housing trust homes, as they have been in the surrounding area (Clovelly, Edwardstown, Ascott, Plympton) for quite some time. It's a shame they're not making a more co-ordinated effort of it, as was done with Mitchell Park. It'll probably mean a lot ugly duplexes, which is what's being built in Marion's (Westfield's) immediate vicinity.
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Re: New Development in Park Holme!

#56 Post by jimmy_2486 » Wed Jun 13, 2007 9:24 pm

Problem is that as ugly as some people find duplexes they are still becoming ever so popular in inner urban areas.

Cost of housing in park holme atm is rougly almost 400 gran for a brand new ultra modern duplex (imagine when it all is done). People these days want to get in a good location and live in whatever they can get their hands on (what they can afford). Developers know this and are making duplexes all over the place cos they know they can sell them quick for good money.

So unfortunately duplexes will become the norm for inner suburban areas unless you are rich or brought very long time ago, it is the case already for sydney melb etc.

And basically all who dont like it can live in the outer fringes.

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Re: New Development in Park Holme!

#57 Post by Norman » Wed Jun 13, 2007 11:35 pm

As long as it increases the density, I'm fine with it.

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Re: New Development in Park Holme!

#58 Post by SRW » Tue Jun 19, 2007 4:28 pm

normangerman wrote:As long as it increases the density, I'm fine with it.
I think density's needed as well in the inner-metropolitan area, but there's certainly better (or more attractive) ways to achieve it then duplexes.
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Re: New Development in Park Holme!

#59 Post by urban » Tue Jun 19, 2007 4:42 pm

The Development plans are the problem. In response to the plague of virtually identical cream brick flats that overtook the inner suburbs a couple of decades ago most council's took the easy option and changed their development plans to make semi-detached (duplexes) the most compact development possible. There are some classic unit/aprtment complexes around from the 20's to 40's. My personal favourite is on the corner of Deepdene Ave & Cross Rd, Westbourne Park. It would be good to see some well designed modern small scale apartment complexes around the inner suburbs. This sort of large scale land clearing should provide the opportunity for a mix of densities. Let's hope the opportunity is taken.

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Re: New Development in Park Holme!

#60 Post by SRW » Tue Jun 19, 2007 6:25 pm

urban wrote:It would be good to see some well designed modern small scale apartment complexes around the inner suburbs. This sort of large scale land clearing should provide the opportunity for a mix of densities. Let's hope the opportunity is taken.
I've got my fingers crossed, but I doubt it.
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