Where did you hear that?Norman wrote:Apparently the old 340 is coming back in the next set of changes. Not sure how accurate that is though.
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Actually that's not true at all. For instance, yesterday my mother wanted to go to Malvern, and the most convenient route there didn't involve the City or the Circle Line - instead she went by train to Woodlands Park and then after a 3 minute walk caught the 190 bus (which is far more useful for cross suburban journeys than its purely cross suburban predecessor).adam73837 wrote:You have quite a good point Cruise, but unfortunately that's the thing about Adelaide. If it weren't for the Circle Line Bus service, you'd have to go into the city to go out of the city. But that only really caters for people around that route, everyone else that needs to commute to places other than the CBD suffer. However because the numbers don't measure up, these people are constantly overlooked. Hence, a major revamp would be needed to cater for all Adelaidians.
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What happened at Jervois Terrace? Google finds nothing, except that it's still on the Noarlunga line replacement bus route.Aidan wrote:The ATSB recommended articulated buses should be banned from using the Jervois Terrace crossing, but contrary to what the public were told, had no objection to normal buses.
After a level crossing smash on the Gawler line, there was a safety review of all of Adelaide's level crossings. The ATSB recommended that articulated buses should not use the crossing (I know that was the recommendation because I have talked to the man who made it). The claim made publicly was that it wasn't safe for any buses to use. The parts of Kingston Park and Marino W of the railway lost their bus service, and initially it was diverted up the streets E of Marino Rocks station before being cut back to Marino station.Somebody wrote:What happened at Jervois Terrace? Google finds nothing, except that it's still on the Noarlunga line replacement bus route.Aidan wrote:The ATSB recommended articulated buses should be banned from using the Jervois Terrace crossing, but contrary to what the public were told, had no objection to normal buses.
That depends what exactly you mean by major bus corridor but since the Oaklands interchange opened, passengers aren't going to change from the train at Marino unless they're going somewhere local like Seacombe Road. So IMO it's best to either keep it as the local 640 route or possibly divert it to Bellevue Heights via Flinders - though without a station to connect with at Bellevue Heights the latter option is unlikely to attract many passengers.Marino isn't much of a terminus for a major bus corridor anyway.
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I think that Perth's circle route was based on our circle line 100 route. I remember reading something about it, that the whole concept was to copy our circle line. Dont know if the 100 route is that successful anymore. I remember it used to be painfully slow as every bus was too early so they crawled along at 10km/h to make up time. Anyone been on it lately?raulduke wrote:not that i care a hell of a lot about cross city bus routes, Perth has an effective circle route system, that goes beyond the CBD
But that's only one point. Another point that's even more important than that one is that long bus routes can attract a lot more passengers.fabricator wrote:The point is long bus routes generally have problems with on time running.
If you ranked all the stops on the route according to how many passengers got on or off, I doubt Tonsley would be in the top twenty. Marion Shopping Centre is where most of the passengers go."The 600-601 bus for example which is an east west route, Blackwood station to Tonsley via Flinders Uni and Hospital. Slow enough but then continues to Oaklands (Noarlunga train), Glenelg (tram) and then all the way to West Beach."
To justify increasing the frequency, it helps to have strong demand. Cutting it as you suggest would mean people along that route would lose their direct access to places such as Glenelg, Harbour Town and West Beach - and people from those places would lose direct access to Marion, Flinders and Blackwood - so it would attract fewer passengers.I think that Blackwood to Tonsley and on to Oaklands would be enough, and include the Flinders Uni and Hospital as well. This means it can be increased in frequency without needing multiple additional buses.
Long routes are indeed often bad for scheduled connections. IMO the best solution is to increase the frequency so that unscheduled connections can be made.The J1 bus is another example, Glenelg to Elizabeth via Adelaide Airport, Adelaide, Obahn, Modbury, Golden Grove. A complete mess and never runs of time, nor meets with the train at Elizabeth.
If they need to use an articulated bus then do they really need to have such useless infrequent running??If it were simply a transit link from Elizabeth to Modbury via Golden Grove, they would not need to use an articulated or O-Bahn bus nor have such useless infrequent running.
???The J1a which terminates at Golden Grove which makes the other 50% of the buses run, can also be done away with. Run a separate bus for the airport bus, which terminates at Golden Grove as the J1a does now.
How do passenger loadings between Modbury and Golden Grove compare with those on the O-bahn itself?There is quite a lot of passenger traffic between Modbury and Golden Grove anyway, usually things like the C1x etc which have the same express route.
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It's not about speed, it's about reliability. More stops = more journey time variability.cookiemonster10 wrote:The J1/J2/J3 is the actual replacement for the former 274 to 278 buses which explains all the stops on Sir Donald Bradman Drive AND part of South Road and Henley Beach Road.
If You wanted a faster service pay the extra for taxi or chauffeur driven car or the skybus.
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