News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#2656 Post by rev » Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:26 am

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People are really struggling with reading comprehension here. Skybus will only be delivering airside, shuttle services not city connections. Although why the airport feels the need to outsource such basic operations is an interesting question.
Yeah that is very interesting indeed. There's only 2 shuttle buses anyway - long term parking and Rex.

Maybe the cost of hiring 2 drivers for the year is too much for 'em. Either that or they want to look "green" with the electric buses.
The electric buses is part of the airport's "green" push. The reason to outsource them would simply be that it is necessary, but not part of the airport's core business. I can't say I've paid attention, but it wouldn't surprise me to find that cleaning and security might be outsourced to experts in those fields too. I don't know why running the car park appears to have remained in-house.
Security and cleaning have been outsourced to third parties for years at all airports.

Perhaps the airport is intending to eventually offer SkyBus transfers to the CBD?..

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#2657 Post by Modbury_Man » Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:55 am

That does make sense that with Skybus getting the AAL airside/car park shuttle contract, they may start Airport - CBD runs.

With the J1X not proposed to continue with the New AdelaideMetro Network changes, that does provide scope for a new express bus to run to the CBD.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#2658 Post by adelaide transport » Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:12 pm

Modbury_Man wrote:
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That does make sense that with Skybus getting the AAL airside/car park shuttle contract, they may start Airport - CBD runs.

With the J1X not proposed to continue with the New AdelaideMetro Network changes, that does provide scope for a new express bus to run to the CBD.
If the J1X does not continue(we will get a better idea some time this month when Adelaide Metro releases info on the proposed changes) it will be interesting to see what happens to the Double Decker JetBus express? Will it join the other one in the Hills?

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#2659 Post by Patrick_27 » Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:17 pm

If it does happen, it won't take long to realise that there is zero viability in charging people $30 return for a bus to and fro the city when for a little bit extra you can catch an Uber or taxi to the front door of your hotel or house.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#2660 Post by adelaide transport » Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:37 pm

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If it does happen, it won't take long to realise that there is zero viability in charging people $30 return for a bus to and fro the city when for a little bit extra you can catch an Uber or taxi to the front door of your hotel or house.
Even if J!X services are not part of the new Network, there is frequent Go-Zone services with the J1,J2,J1A,J1T services to and from the City.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#2661 Post by ChillyPhilly » Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:27 pm

adelaide transport wrote:
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If it does happen, it won't take long to realise that there is zero viability in charging people $30 return for a bus to and fro the city when for a little bit extra you can catch an Uber or taxi to the front door of your hotel or house.
Even if J!X services are not part of the new Network, there is frequent Go-Zone services with the J1,J2,J1A,J1T services to and from the City.
And it is important that these routes continue to provide a public transport service to the airport.
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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#2662 Post by Nort » Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:08 am

Modbury_Man wrote:
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With the J1X not proposed to continue with the New AdelaideMetro Network changes, that does provide scope for a new express bus to run to the CBD.
Really? That bus is often (well not so much lately obviously) quite busy coming from the airport.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#2663 Post by PeFe » Fri Apr 03, 2020 2:40 pm

The proposed new bus network has route No 1 running to the airport every 15 minutes during the day.

There will also be a western suburbs bus that starts at Port Adelaide and ends at the airport.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#2664 Post by I Follow PAFC » Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:09 pm

Virgin Australia goes into voluntary administration.
https://7news.com.au/travel/air-aviatio ... e-c-987575
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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#2665 Post by Patrick_27 » Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:47 pm

I Follow PAFC wrote:
Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:09 pm
Virgin Australia goes into voluntary administration.
https://7news.com.au/travel/air-aviatio ... e-c-987575
*SET to go into administration... Even if it does happen, they haven't announced it yet.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#2666 Post by ChillyPhilly » Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:28 pm

Patrick_27 wrote:
Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:47 pm
I Follow PAFC wrote:
Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:09 pm
Virgin Australia goes into voluntary administration.
https://7news.com.au/travel/air-aviatio ... e-c-987575
*SET to go into administration... Even if it does happen, they haven't announced it yet.
They have already appointed Deloitte as their administrator.
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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#2667 Post by GrowAdelaide » Tue Apr 21, 2020 9:56 am

ChillyPhilly wrote:
Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:28 pm
Patrick_27 wrote:
Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:47 pm
I Follow PAFC wrote:
Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:09 pm
*SET to go into administration... Even if it does happen, they haven't announced it yet.
They have already appointed Deloitte as their administrator.
Yes, now official with Richard Branson offering his island as collateral. Meanwhile they are still operating based on Govt. instructions and funding to keep at least the Melbourne Sydney route flying.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#2668 Post by how good is he » Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:14 am

I did a quick search and his Necker Island [in the Caribbean] is worth approx $60m so the banks may lend $30m against it.... so just a touch short of the
$5 BILLION the airline owes.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#2669 Post by PeFe » Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:42 am

Virgin Australia is 90% owned by foreign interests, what proportion of the 5 billion dollar debt is owed to Australian banks I don't know....

The best outcome in the current Virgin administration would be Virgin to survive as a low cost carrier.

Australia (and Adelaide) need more than one airline servicing major Australian cities.

Or country is too big and spread out to go back to a time when people (like me) used to catch buses and trains between cities. I once went to Sydney for a holiday in 1981. I took the daytime Overland train to Melbourne, then immediately connected to the night train to Sydney.......24 hours of slow travel.

I could not even contemplate doing a trip like that ever again......we need affordable plane travel.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#2670 Post by SBD » Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:45 am

I wonder how long it would take to establish inter-city passenger rail (the current services to Adelaide are tourist services, not transport - more like cruise ships). Could it ramp up fast enough to fill a gap before the next airline grows to fill that gap?

Adelaide flights at present are primarily operated by Rex, Alliance and Cobham, all to regional destinations, apart from one Jetstar flight a day to Melbourne and Sydney. I wonder if any of those could pick up some cheap 737s, pilots and landing slots, and build an interstate route network.

Rex is ASX-listed, but major shareholders seem to be based in Singapore. Cobham is owned by a UK parent which in turn is recently owned by US venture capital. Alliance is also ASX-listed, largest shareholder is Qantas (20%).

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