PRO: Oaklands Rail Overpass

[mattblack]

Okay believe what you want to believe Aidan, all I can say is that the most likely options on the table is what I stated before. If you have costings regarding your underpass/overpass argument for Marion Rd and a Benefit Cost analysis for whatever you think should happen at Brighton Rd forward them on to DTEI, it would probably save them a hell of alot of time and money and people would be forever thankful to you.

[fabricator]

My thoughts on this are to build not one but two road bridges/underpasses, not necessarily at the same time either.
First would go at the Northern end of the station, and replace the existing level crossing. The second would go at the southern end of the station and carry traffic from Diagonal Road. It should be easy enough to use the two to create proper merge/join lanes between the two roads.

The two road bridges/underpasses could be built decades apart if need be.

Building it as an overpass would also bring the station closer to the marion precinct, both logically and physically. Pedestrians would have direct access to the precinct without needing to cross a main road.

Nonsense, the Southern end of the station goes right onto the Morphett/Diagonal connector road. Putting the station on a bridge would actually put it 9M or so higher up and hence no closer even if the station where directly over the road itself. Stairs and ramps are certainly not easier to use.

Big question at the moment is where Mike Ra... um Jane Weatherill will find the money to pay for this project. Given the Commonwealth's reluctance to pay for road projects but leaning towards rail projects instead.

[Aidan]

Okay believe what you want to believe Aidan, all I can say is that the most likely options on the table is what I stated before.

And I have already explained to you why it's actually a very unlikely option.

If you have costings regarding your underpass/overpass argument for Marion Rd and a Benefit Cost analysis for whatever you think should happen at Brighton Rd forward them on to DTEI, it would probably save them a hell of alot of time and money and people would be forever thankful to you.

They never seem to have appreciated anything I've told them before. But in this case I think it would be redundant anyway. Grade separation of Brighton Road is already being considered (if the Messenger is anything to go by). Marion Road was grade separated decades ago. Morphett/Diagonal Road will get an underpass - it's just a question of when.

[Aidan]

My thoughts on this are to build not one but two road bridges/underpasses, not necessarily at the same time either.
First would go at the Northern end of the station, and replace the existing level crossing. The second would go at the southern end of the station and carry traffic from Diagonal Road. It should be easy enough to use the two to create proper merge/join lanes between the two roads.

The northern end of Oaklands station is in a residential area, well away from any major road. Both roads are at the southern end of the station, and the station was designed to be compatible with the future construction of an underpass.

The two road bridges/underpasses could be built decades apart if need be.

Don't you understand? There will never be a need for an overpass as well as an underpass. The former would be noisy and unsightly, but most of all pointless, as traffic lights can easily handle the volume of traffic where Morphett and Diagonal Roads converge and diverge. And building a long overpass just to replace two sets of traffic lights might make sense on South Road, but it wouldn't make sense here!

[mattblack]

Okay believe what you want to believe Aidan, all I can say is that the most likely options on the table is what I stated before.

And I have already explained to you why it's actually a very unlikely option.

I seriously doubt that you have better connections than I do about this matter. Planning study being undertaken, everything is on the table, cost IS a major consideration. At this stage overpass s most likely but there are ramifiactions. End of story.

[rhino]

They never seem to have appreciated anything I've told them before.

Don't you understand?

[metro]

Putting a bridge over the rail line makes the most sense to me. Would have to be the cheapest, quickest and most logical option.

[muzzamo]

I think that politics will play a very big role here. The government will not be too keen on ripping up the brand new station due to the potential for embarrassment.

[rhino]

I think that politics will play a very big role here. The government will not be too keen on ripping up the brand new station due to the potential for embarrassment.

And yet, that's exactly what Pat Conlon said was going to happen.

[Aidan]

I think that politics will play a very big role here. The government will not be too keen on ripping up the brand new station due to the potential for embarrassment.

And yet, that's exactly what Pat Conlon said was going to happen.

When?

[rhino]

I think that politics will play a very big role here. The government will not be too keen on ripping up the brand new station due to the potential for embarrassment.

And yet, that's exactly what Pat Conlon said was going to happen.

When?

July 13 (the day before my first post on this thread), talking to Matthew Abraham and David Bevan on their morning show on ABC radio.

[deano91]

We received a flyer in the mail the other day about the Government's intention to build a rail overpass at Oaklands/Diagonal Rd. Mainly wanting to know the community's thoughts on the matter as well as informing us that there is a planning study underway to look at the best way to manage not only a future rail overpass but the whole Diagonal Rd/Morphett Rd/Prunus St area. So it looks like a rail overpass is definitely on the Government's agenda...

[mattblack]

My sources do not let me down.

[[Shuz]]

Just to clarify; a rail overpass?

The f- point was it rebuilding Oaklands only to demolish it!?

[mattblack]

Yes a rail overpass. New station located on the elevated section, that why Warradale is sure to go, it will be a big structure because the station needs to be on the flat. Embarassing, yes, althrough they can reuse the majority of fixtures so its not a dead loss.