[PRO] Port Adelaide Dock Spur Line

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[PRO] Port Adelaide Dock Spur Line

#1 Post by Norman » Sat Jun 24, 2017 12:31 am

Well, this certainly came out of nowhere...

Surely this must mean the idea of the trams to Port Adelaide is now dead.
State Budget 2017: Trains return to the heart of Port Adelaide after a 36-year absence
Miles Kemp, The Advertiser
24 minutes ago

A NEW 1km rail link will connect Port Adelaide’s commercial centre and the Dock One residential precinct to the Adelaide CBD for the first time in 36 years.
The $16.4 million train station and spur line will lead to a new railway station at Baker St, in the heart of the Port, the Government announced in the State Budget on Thursday.

Transport Minister Stephen Mullighan said that when the new line opened, Port Adelaide residents would be able to catch regular train services from a modern, safe and accessible station at the site of the current Jacketts Station at the National Railway Museum.

“The new station will be located on the doorstep of the Dock One waterfront redevelopment which will include more than 750 new townhouses and apartments, a refurbished Marine and Harbours building, and waterfront boardwalk,’’ he said.

“Construction will start next year and will support 48 jobs during construction.”

National Railway Museum executive officer Bob Sampson sad the new link would be a “huge benefit” for Port Adelaide’s businesses, events and local attractions.

Port Adelaide Mayor Gary Johanson said he was “really excited” because the project would open up the inner area of the Port.

“Which is so important if we are going to engage with the people and really say the Port is an open place for people to work and visit,’’ he said.

“You need to have the transport hub in the centre of the Port and the existing station is at the very quiet end of Port Adelaide. Tourists from overseas have given us some very bad feedback over the years."

Since 1981, the line has passed well to the south of the town centre but the project will include reconstruction and duplication of the spur line from the existing Outer Harbor line at Grand Junction Road before the line crosses Port Rd.

It comes as Mr Mullighan confirmed he had submitted business cases to Infrastructure Australia for two major transport projects on the same day the State Budget was handed down.

Mr Mullighan has pledged funds to upgrade a stretch of the North-South corridor from Regency Road to Pym Street and complete the Gawler line electrification project, but says both are contingent on Federal Government funding.

He maintained earlier business cases were complete but said the further submission was done so “we can’t have any further allegations from anyone at the Commonwealth level that the work hasn’t been done by South Australia”.
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[PRO] Re: Port Adelaide Dock Spur Line

#2 Post by PeFe » Sat Jun 24, 2017 2:28 am

If this proposal comes to fruition, then the current Port Adelaide station should be renamed Commercial Road (as it used to be called) and the new station should be called "Port Adelaide"
Just for clarity (and make it easier for tourists and commuters)
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#3 Post by ChillyPhilly » Sat Jun 24, 2017 2:50 am

Now this is some surprising late night reading.
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#4 Post by Kasey771 » Sat Jun 24, 2017 7:15 am

ChillyPhilly wrote:Now this is some surprising late night reading.
Or a nice way to greet the weekend for those of us that missed it last night :) It would be wonderful if the new station building could be designed/built so that it looked like it had been there for 100 years and try to fit in with the character of the place.
Big infrastructure investments are usually under-valued and & over-criticized while in the planning stage. It's much easier to envision the here and now costs and inconveniences, and far more difficult to imagine fully the eventual benefits.

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#5 Post by Torrens_5022 » Sat Jun 24, 2017 8:26 am

Seems interesting, will this be a one station spur line? or maybe put a second station at Rosewater (Edith Street) it would be physically close to Port Adelaide but about 1.5km walk. Also will this mean the Outer half of the Outer Harbor line now gets a reduced services? Maybe it will be an All stops service that sits 5mins behind a semi express Outer Harbor - All stops OH to Port Adelaide - Woodville - Bowden - Adelaide. Also looking at the route this could be the first stage of a Semaphore tram line if converted to light rail, the line would turn onto St Vincent over the bridge turn onto Swan and onto Semaphore Road .

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#6 Post by PeFe » Sat Jun 24, 2017 8:51 am

Hopefully this new station is such a hit ( and coming at a time when the Port appears to be taking off) that the light rail idea will be abandonned.

Also thinking about operating practicalities....how about this this
1)Turn the Grange line into a spur only line, commuters would always change at Woodville. This has been done in the past as a temporary measure and seemed to work quite well.
2) City - Port Adelaide all stops train
3) City - Woodville express then all stops to Outer Harbor

Electrify the Port Adelaide/Outer Harbor line, leaving diesel trains to service Grange, before making a final decision on the status of the Grange line (I favour light rail including a new line to West Lakes, transferring to heavy rail at Woodville)

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#7 Post by Nathan » Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:17 am

Spur line is great, but, when will DPTI learn what a station is and stop building bus stops? This has an opportunity to create a great station building that incorporates the railway museum, but no, we don't do things like that.

Also, the article mentions the spur line will be duplicated, but the renders only show a single track.

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#8 Post by claybro » Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:41 am

Great to see trains back into the centre of the Port, especially given the limited funds available. Just a shame they could not somehow have extended it to St Vincent street, to make it feel more visible/ safer. The original station building, where the police headquarters is now was probably the best located suburban station in Adelaide back in the day.

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#9 Post by SRW » Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:57 am

What's the timeline on this?
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#10 Post by rogue » Sat Jun 24, 2017 10:32 am

I fully support the idea of reintroducing public transport to Port Adelaide, however heavy rail will still have the same problem as the current situation. Stations are too close together and the speed of the service is poor.

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#11 Post by crawf » Sat Jun 24, 2017 11:06 am

Well this was a surprise. Hopefully this means the whole light rail idea is now completely dead.

I like the idea of a new spur line closer to the inner heart of Port Adelaide, though the proposal needs alot of work. Land for example should be set aside for a possible future duplication, the station needs to be more than a glorified bus stop and the surrounding precinct should be developed into a major TOD. Mid-high rise buildings, with the existing heritage buildings converted into apartments and tourism purposes. E.g. the Wool stores.

And lastly... electrify it!

Though with major work already underway for the Torrens Junction, South Road Overpass and now this, perhaps electrification of the Port Adelaide Line might be on the cards in the upcoming State Election? ;)

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#12 Post by Norman » Sat Jun 24, 2017 12:46 pm

And from ABC News
Port Adelaide to get new train station served by 1km rail spur

Work is to start next year on a new rail line into the heart of Port Adelaide with a train station to be built in Baker Street, close to the Dock One residential precinct.

Train services into the centre of the Port were discontinued back in 1981, and the old Port Dock Station was demolished in 1989, making way for a police station and courts on the site.

Transport Minister Stephen Mullighan said a modern train station would give impetus to the rejuvenation of the suburb.

"Better access to public transport will encourage more people to come to live in this unique waterfront district and also encourage people to visit the Port," he said.

"We know that people want public transport services close to where they work and close to where they live.

"Having train services close to the new housing development, but also close to where we are relocating 500 public servants to work, will be a huge boost for the centre of the Port."

The SA Government allocated $16.4 million in this week's state budget for the new rail station which will be served by a 1-kilometre spur line off the existing Outer Harbor rail line.

Mr Mullighan said the new service would not interfere with operations of the National Railway Museum, which is in the same part of Port Adelaide.

"We've got a lot of work to do with the museum to make sure that what we're doing is a benefit to them and doesn't harm their operations in any way," he said.

"We also need to talk to the council and some of the other land owners to make sure we're delivering this in a way that benefits everybody."

Rail museum welcomes train station
Railway Museum executive officer Bob Sampson said the spur line would be a boost for both the attraction and the wider area.

"Our railway museum has been established at Port Adelaide for almost 30 years and this announcement to bring suburban passenger services into the heart of our city is a huge benefit for Port Adelaide's businesses, events and local attractions," he said.

"Whilst there are some important business and operational issues that the railway museum is working through with [the Department of Transport], we remain positive that the eventual outcome will be great for both our museum and those who live, work and enjoy Port Adelaide as a whole."

Port Adelaide-Enfield Mayor Gary Johanson said the rail project would improve access to the Port for growing numbers of office workers, residents and tourists.

"We're going sort of back to the future, or back to the past almost, but looking at the future and it's going to be very well received by tourists because it's going to deliver people right into the heart of the Port around the museum precinct," he said.

Treasurer Tom Koutsantonis said it was part of ongoing efforts to improve Adelaide's public transport network.

"Three years ago this Government made a commitment to keep building South Australia [and] since then we have invested hundreds of millions of dollars to improve our public transport network," he said.

"This budget is capitalising on the work we've already done to encourage more people to catch buses, trains and trams."
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#13 Post by Goodsy » Sat Jun 24, 2017 1:34 pm

can't wait to sit on those balcony's enjoying the view with a lung full of diesel fumes.

They should plan ahead and put the station in a trench

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#14 Post by Hooligan » Sat Jun 24, 2017 2:26 pm

Nathan wrote:Spur line is great, but, when will DPTI learn what a station is and stop building bus stops? This has an opportunity to create a great station building that incorporates the railway museum, but no, we don't do things like that.
They could build the station 100 metres south of where the render shows and make it easier for the derros to go to Centre link.

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#15 Post by Kasey771 » Sat Jun 24, 2017 5:38 pm

PeFe wrote:Hopefully this new station is such a hit ( and coming at a time when the Port appears to be taking off) that the light rail idea will be abandonned.

Also thinking about operating practicalities....how about this this
1)Turn the Grange line into a spur only line, commuters would always change at Woodville. This has been done in the past as a temporary measure and seemed to work quite well.
2) City - Port Adelaide all stops train
3) City - Woodville express then all stops to Outer Harbor

Electrify the Port Adelaide/Outer Harbor line, leaving diesel trains to service Grange, before making a final decision on the status of the Grange line (I favour light rail including a new line to West Lakes, transferring to heavy rail at Woodville)
Is there room at Woodville to make it a proper train station with a mix of small retailers, a park n ride etc? Where all lines heading North west pass and passengers fan out to their individual spur lines from there. All trains City to Woodville... Get out and change for Grange, Outer Harbor and Port Adelaide.
Big infrastructure investments are usually under-valued and & over-criticized while in the planning stage. It's much easier to envision the here and now costs and inconveniences, and far more difficult to imagine fully the eventual benefits.

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