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[eslampar]

Does anyone have any information on the proposed Kilkenny TOD at the recently closed Bianco site? Or what is happening with the recently abandoned Bianco site. http://dcw.flinders.chimo.com.au/webdat ... -10-06.pdf + http://www.charlessturt.sa.gov.au/webda ... -09-26.pdf for those who are interested. Thanks

[rev]

Would be interested to see any artists impressions/renders if any exist for the Kilkenny TOD.

[eslampar]

Likewise, pretty confident nothing has been released though. I did however read somewhere that the large deralict building on the NE side of the Kilkenny train station is heritage listed and would potentially be converted into student accommodation as part of the redevelopment. Just dont understand, either:

1. Bianco is presumably paying rent on a site they havent used for the past 6 months or;
2. The owner, Peter Gregg ( http://eoy.ey.com.au/peter-gregg-the-gr ... /i1134693/ ), is happy to be paying holding costs without any rental income.

Hopefully, no.2 is the case and he is in negotiations with the appropriate parties for the redevelopment.

[Will]

From the Messenger:

Objections to Minda's high-rise

Local News13 Dec 11 @ 05:26pm by Jane Whitford


MORE than 130 residents packed the Brighton Civic Centre last week to voice concerns over high-rise apartment complexes proposed for Minda’s North Brighton site.

Among their concerns were the visual impact of six-to-eight-storey apartment blocks earmarked for the beachfront, possible damage to secondary sand dunes and increased traffic in the area.

Speaking at the meeting, one Gladstone Rd resident was met with applause when he asked Minda president Tony Harrison: “Do you know what an eight-storey building would look like from our position?”

“We’ve paid a lot of money to live here and to have this type of building I think is preposterous.

“It’s going to be a monster.”

Another woman feared more eight-storey buildings would follow if Minda’s application was approved.

“It would set a precedent for the whole area ... what’s to stop more from being built.”

Holdfast Bay Councillor Rosemary Clancy, who organised the meeting with Cr Karen Donaldson, said many residents had contacted her about Minda’s $200 million development.

“I think the turnout shows that people are very concerned about the height of the buildings and buildings being on the secondary sand dunes,” Cr Clancy said.

Cr Clancy said she was “disappointed” Minda would demolish an existing building on secondary sand dunes, and then rebuild on the same site.

Minda CEO Cathy Miller said Minda would need to consider selling off part of its site if the redevelopment does not go ahead.

She said the 248 retirement apartments were necessary to fund 201 new bedrooms for Minda residents.

If plans were knocked back, Ms Miller said Minda’s board would need to “consider other options”.

“The sale of the land would be an option they would have to look at,” Ms Miller said.

“A developer would be interested in the seafront.”

Community pressure in April saw Minda abandon plans to build high-rise apartments on undeveloped secondary sand dunes.

Ms Miller said while the board would listen to residents’ feedback on the latest masterplan, it was important to secure funds to build new homes for Minda’s 250 residents.

Without proceeds from the apartment sales, she said residents would continue to “suffer” in outdated accommodation.

“We’ve got people that have a bedroom smaller than an ensuite or a walk-in robe with no natural light,” Ms Miller said.

“If we don’t build contemporary housing ... they’ll continue to suffer because they are living in inappropriate accommodation and are not realising their full potential.

“The cost of supporting people is going up every year and we have to become more self-sufficient.”

Ms Miller said Minda had honoured its promise not to build on undeveloped secondary sand dunes, but would demolish buildings which were already on secondary dunes to make way for the new apartments.

Residents had until last Friday (December 9) to submit feedback on the plans for Minda to consider.

Holdfast Bay Council’s submission on the plan was due to be presented to councillors this week.

[Will]

From the Messenger:

Community gives tick to Minda plan

Local News

15 Feb 12 @ 02:06pm by Tim Williams


MINDA says community reaction to its latest development masterplan has been “exceptionally positive” and will submit plans to Holdfast Bay Council for the first stage in March.

Chief executive Cathy Miller said more than 130 of the 300 people who attended briefings on the 10-year masterplan late last year also supplied written responses.

But Minda will not release the responses, saying anonymity was a condition of the consultation process.

The $200 million master plan involves erecting 294 retirement apartments in buildings ranging from three to eight storeys, and 36 houses and three apartment buildings for Minda residents.

“The majority of feedback has been exceptionally positive, particularly regarding Minda’s plans to create a coastal park, the choice of accommodation, community space, redevelopment of facilities for South Australians with intellectual disability, and the opportunity for Minda to become self-funded,” Ms Miller said.

Stage 1 includes two three-storey retirement blocks on Jack Fox Oval with 36 apartments, plus two three-storey blocks and 16 homes for Minda residents along King George Ave.

It also has a wetland and coastal park.

Ms Miller said some nearby residents had raised concerns about building on Jack Fox Oval and potential problems caused by the high-density parts of the plan.

Last year Minda decided not to build on undeveloped secondary dunes following a community backlash, but it now plans to replace old buildings on the dunes with large apartment blocks.

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I drove past this development today. A lot has happened since the last photo post in August. Some of the buildings look like they're almost complete.

[crawf]

This is such a great development, more of this in the burbs please.

[eslampar]

Some more info released from Charles Sturt Council i thought i would share as this topic seems to have an amazing amount of interest...

http://www.charlessturt.sa.gov.au/webda ... h_2012.pdf

[Xaragmata]

Pics from Monday - apartment buildings on Alma Tce & Todville Street are largely complete:















Google satellite view is fairly recent, & looks like a few reproduction trust homes with tiled rooves among the townhouses behind the apartments.

[Omicron]

I don't understand why balconies are made barely-useable. So often I see these tiny little balconies that can hardly fit a single chair and table (if that) with no shelter beyond a hopeless suggestion of eave and a flimsy umbrella. Surely a nice set of doors onto a larger balcony is a cheap way of making smaller apartments feel bigger for limited cost?

[monotonehell]

I don't understand why balconies are made barely-useable. So often I see these tiny little balconies that can hardly fit a single chair and table (if that) with no shelter beyond a hopeless suggestion of eave and a flimsy umbrella. Surely a nice set of doors onto a larger balcony is a cheap way of making smaller apartments feel bigger for limited cost?

Agree with this, although from what I can tell of my neighbours who have room-sized balconies (Alpha); a balcony is where you set up an outdoor dining table and chairs, some tasteful wall hangings etc, and then never use. Except maybe for the occasional sly smoke.

[Omicron]

I don't understand why balconies are made barely-useable. So often I see these tiny little balconies that can hardly fit a single chair and table (if that) with no shelter beyond a hopeless suggestion of eave and a flimsy umbrella. Surely a nice set of doors onto a larger balcony is a cheap way of making smaller apartments feel bigger for limited cost?

Agree with this, although from what I can tell of my neighbours who have room-sized balconies (Alpha); a balcony is where you set up an outdoor dining table and chairs, some tasteful wall hangings etc, and then never use. Except maybe for the occasional sly smoke.

In warmer weather, Omi's balcony would be in a permanent state of martini hour, followed by mojito lunch, wine afternoon, champagne evening, and so on.

Possibly I'd read in the natural light, too. Something productive like that.

[ChillyPhilly]

They should abandon the Woodville TOD. That's doomed, purely because the local community is so vehemently against it; myself included. I don't see it as NIMBYism, just the locals standing up for what remains of the area's last true open space. Abandon that development and pump the cash into Kilkenny and breathe some life into that area, which needs it more.

[Will]

They should abandon the Woodville TOD. That's doomed, purely because the local community is so vehemently against it; myself included. I don't see it as NIMBYism, just the locals standing up for what remains of the area's last true open space. Abandon that development and pump the cash into Kilkenny and breathe some life into that area, which needs it more.

Sorry mate, but what you have described is the true NIMBY attitude; "I'm all for progress as long as it's not in my backyard"

[Waewick]

it is

I saw the plans the woodville tod and the controversial park swap all seemed fine and a fair bit of overreaction going on.

I do know that one person was vehemently against the swap solely on the basis they had to walk a bit further to get their....