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Re: #SWP: 45 Park - Gilberton - $180 million

Postby monotonehell » Wed May 30, 2012 7:22 pm

O’Connor said he feared sales interest in 45 Park, which went on the market earlier this year, would fall away because buyers would be unwilling to pay stamp duty that was not required in the CBD.
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“At the end of the day the people we’re targeting are owner-occupiers who won’t go into the city to live, but who will buy property in our location before the city because it’s a car dependent backwater location. So that’s the area we’re going to hurt on.”


There I fixed it for him.

What's vastly superior about it? No real close by services within walking distance, other than the pub.
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#SWP: 45 Park - Gilberton - $180 million

Postby Aidan » Wed May 30, 2012 9:51 pm

monotonehell wrote:
O’Connor said he feared sales interest in 45 Park, which went on the market earlier this year, would fall away because buyers would be unwilling to pay stamp duty that was not required in the CBD.
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“At the end of the day the people we’re targeting are owner-occupiers who won’t go into the city to live, but who will buy property in our location before the city because it’s a car dependent backwater location. So that’s the area we’re going to hurt on.”


There I fixed it for him.

What's vastly superior about it? No real close by services within walking distance, other than the pub.

Walkscore gives it a rating of 73%. You seem to have forgotten how much of Melbourne Street is within walking distance.

As for what's superior about it, proximity ti the river is one obvious drawcard.
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Re: #SWP: 45 Park - Gilberton - $180 million

Postby monotonehell » Wed May 30, 2012 10:44 pm

Aidan wrote:Walkscore gives it a rating of 73%. You seem to have forgotten how much of Melbourne Street is within walking distance.

As for what's superior about it, proximity ti the river is one obvious drawcard.


Wrong side of Hackney Road, without a car it would be difficult. I have a friend who lives just behind that in Rose street. Public transport is difficult there as you have to deal with the main road, and not many actual services that stop. If they do they are full. The walk to the stop is not sheltered and you have to cross a lot of traffic (including the busway's output) to get to the stops. There's no grocery stores within a reasonable walk. Closest is the IGA on Melbourne street. I looked into living with him, but it was just too isolated without a car.

My house has a walk score of 98% :D
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Re: #SWP: 45 Park - Gilberton - $180 million

Postby crawf » Thu May 31, 2012 1:45 am

Mine - 93% :)
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Re: #SWP: 45 Park - Gilberton - $180 million

Postby ghs » Thu May 31, 2012 4:09 pm

It will be interesting to see if the prices of these apartments come down in price as a result of all
of this.
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Re: #SWP: 45 Park - Gilberton - $180 million

Postby Omicron » Thu May 31, 2012 9:23 pm

monotonehell wrote:
O’Connor said he feared sales interest in 45 Park, which went on the market earlier this year, would fall away because buyers would be unwilling to pay stamp duty that was not required in the CBD.
...
“At the end of the day the people we’re targeting are owner-occupiers who won’t go into the city to live, but who will buy property in our location before the city because it’s a car dependent backwater location. So that’s the area we’re going to hurt on.”


There I fixed it for him.

What's vastly superior about it? No real close by services within walking distance, other than the pub.


I fail to see the issue here.
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Re: #SWP: 45 Park - Gilberton - $180 million

Postby monotonehell » Thu May 31, 2012 11:05 pm

Omicron wrote:I fail to see the issue here.


Have you been to the Hackney pub?

There's no Moet et Chandon and they have pokies...
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Re: #SWP: 45 Park - Gilberton - $180 million

Postby Waewick » Fri Jun 01, 2012 8:11 am

monotonehell wrote:
Omicron wrote:I fail to see the issue here.


Have you been to the Hackney pub?

There's no Moet et Chandon and they have pokies...


I know this isn't the thread but.

by issue with this kind is statement is what are pubs and clubs meant to do to supplement their income? Inner city pubs get smashed on all the council rates, land tax etc given the value of the sites.

people aren't winning to pay a decent margin on alcoholic products for the pleasure of sitting in a pub and being served beer and food.

so there is only really two options pubs have, get pokies or shut down.
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Re: #SWP: 45 Park - Gilberton - $180 million

Postby peas_and_corn » Fri Jun 01, 2012 3:17 pm

Oh please. There are enough pubs without pokies to show that it's a viable business plan.
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Re: #SWP: 45 Park - Gilberton - $180 million

Postby flavze » Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:35 pm

crawf wrote:Mine - 93% :)

mine is 3%. :|
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Re: #SWP: 45 Park - Gilberton - $180 million

Postby jk1237 » Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:30 am

92% for me at St Peters :banana:
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Re: #SWP: 45 Park - Gilberton - $180 million

Postby contractor » Sat Jun 02, 2012 1:54 pm

No sympathy for the developer.. they've had this block of land since 2004.
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Re: #SWP: 45 Park - Gilberton - $180 million

Postby The Scooter Guy » Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:28 pm

I've been passing that site on the buses for weeks & still no activity is going on.
Not even once does my mother give me a SINGLE penny, a dime, a shilling or otherwise, a dollar to take the trash out!
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Re: #SWP: 45 Park - Gilberton - $180 million

Postby adamd » Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:15 pm

Poor interest in the site (2000 enquiries but only mid teen sales?) can now be blamed on the state government's stamp duty decision, not on the developments poor location (relative to everything people want / need) and potential over pricing.
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Re: #SWP: 45 Park - Gilberton - $180 million

Postby ghs » Wed Jun 13, 2012 3:54 pm

The apartments are also quite expensive.

$1.125m will get you a 3 bedroom apartment in this development.

For that much money you can buy a pretty good house. I think I'd rather have
a nice house.
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