Commonwealth Games in Adelaide

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Would you support a bid for the 2018 Commonwealth Games?

Yes, it would be great for the city
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No, waste of money
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Not 2018, but 2022 or 2026
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Re: Commonwealth Games in Adelaide

#181 Post by rev » Thu Jul 04, 2019 12:27 pm

Port Moresby is the other interested city for 2026 actually.

If we can't get our shit together and organize a Commonwealth Games in 7 years, then we deserve all the shit thrown our way lol.


Adelaide Oval..that northern stand, potentially filling in the gaps between stands as well..
Superdrome..renovations and improve the surrounding area outside to make it more user friendly/inviting. Move the state hockey center closer to Grand Junction Road, create a new entrance to the area from there. Turn the rest of the area into an urban forest.
Build a new rectangular multi use stadium in the city..perhaps just east of Adelaide Oval..linked by a plaza over the road..
Build a new multi-use indoor arena over the Tennis center/next gen gym sites.
We have the new swim center at Marion that's hosted the Australian championships for a couple yeas now.
Renovate the netball stadium at Mile End.
Convention Center apparently to host table tennis and weightlifting.
Beach Volleyball at Glenelg

Athletes Village...if the WCH is moved out from it's current location by then, then build it there. Completely clear the site and start from scratch. The athletes village has to be in the city or as close to it as possible, because the athletes are the official ambassadors of their countries while here representing them in their chosen sports, so you want to make a good impression as much as possible. Locating them in the middle of nowhere will make a bad impression, whereas in or next to the city would give them a good impression. More options for night life and eating out and so on...
They've only just started work on the Athletes Village for the 2022 games in Birmingham btw.
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If they are serious about it...it needs to start soon.

These big events are used as a catalyst to push forward infrastructure projects as well. Would be a great way to secure funding from the feds for taking the tram network back into the metro area and a City loop.
Hopefully if we do get it, we see a huge boost in construction activity in the city/cbd. Can see quite a few more hotels going up, hopefully brands we don't have here yet.

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Re: Commonwealth Games in Adelaide

#182 Post by Jim » Thu Jul 04, 2019 3:32 pm

Jim wrote:This is not the infrastructure SA needs. We must to get our mining boom off the ground first, not to spend $1 Billion in sporting facilities. Our priority should be port upgrades, rail links, a power interconnector from Roxby to Queensland, schools, hospitals, regional development, weirs and lochs, solar and geothermal power plants and education. We need to earn our wealth before we spend it.
Have to agree too many other important things to get off the ground first


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Re: Commonwealth Games in Adelaide

#183 Post by Llessur2002 » Thu Jul 04, 2019 3:55 pm

Jim wrote:
Thu Jul 04, 2019 3:32 pm
Jim wrote:This is not the infrastructure SA needs. We must to get our mining boom off the ground first, not to spend $1 Billion in sporting facilities. Our priority should be port upgrades, rail links, a power interconnector from Roxby to Queensland, schools, hospitals, regional development, weirs and lochs, solar and geothermal power plants and education. We need to earn our wealth before we spend it.
Have to agree too many other important things to get off the ground first

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Re: Commonwealth Games in Adelaide

#184 Post by SRW » Mon Jul 08, 2019 11:12 am

Lifted from Will in another thread who lifted from realestate.com, but here's a photo that demonstrates the potential of the central bus precinct for an athlete's village:
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Re: Commonwealth Games in Adelaide

#185 Post by 1NEEDS2POST » Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:16 am

On that site, the coach terminal seems to occupy a small amount of land. Most seems to be the bus depot. My thoughts are:
  • Move both CBD bus depots to outside of the CBD.
  • Then move the coach terminal to where the Currie St bus depot currently is. That way it's closer to most suburban bus routes and the train station.
  • Then the coach terminal and Bowen St bus depot can be developed into the athletes' village.

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Re: Commonwealth Games in Adelaide

#186 Post by Brucetiki » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:39 am

Llessur2002 wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2019 4:02 pm
I really hope so. Regardless of the sometimes cited second-rate nature of the event compared to the Olympics it will be a great boost to the international reputation of Adelaide and should see a nice influx of visitors over the two week period it is running. Luckily we have a few hotels coming on line in the coming months :)

Also the boost to public transport infrastructure which usually precedes the event will probably be the only expansion likely to happen under the Liberals' watch. It's hard to see how we would come away with anything less than one or more of the city-based tram extensions or even, maybe, an airport extension.
For some events, such as netball, the Commonwealth Games is up there with that sport's World Cup/Championships. In netball's case, in 2018 they had the top 12 nations competing at the games. While the quality drops after about the top 6, 2018 did see the end of the Australia/New Zealand gold medal match monopoly with the decline of New Zealand, and the rise of England, Malawi, Jamaica etc.

Lawn bowls, rugby 7's, and to an extent hockey, beach volleyball and some track events, also attracts some high quality countries to the Commonwealth Games.

On the flip side, I hope we never see basketball at the games again.

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Re: Commonwealth Games in Adelaide

#187 Post by rev » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:56 pm

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-dBt5J ... Amt_g/view
An open letter to the South Australian public - 2.5
Billion reasons to host the 2026 Commonwealth
Games.

Sport SA has been quite clear with government that the opportunity to host the 2026
Commonwealth Games is an opportunity that should not be missed. Not just for the sporting
event itself but for the myriad of other benefits that hosting an international event of this
magnitude brings. And let’s be clear here, the Commonwealth Games committee have
already indicated that South Australia is the preferred site for the Games – it’s ours for the
taking, we just have to reach out and take it.

However, in recently participating in a radio interview about hosting the Games, it was clear
that the public isn’t really that sold on the idea. So, let’s take a closer look at the most recent
Commonwealth Games and see if we can’t sway public opinion.
So why would South Australia want to host a Commonwealth Games? Well let’s start with
the numbers. The most recent Games were held on the Gold Coast in 2018 and the
numbers are compelling.

The Games report, recently released by the Queensland government, indicates that:

 The Commonwealth Games injected $2.5 billion, yes billion, dollars into the economy
 Over 21 500 new jobs were created in the lead up the Games
 An international audience of 1.5 billion people tuned in to watch the Games
 Over 6600 competitors from 71 countries competed in the Games (and their support
staff numbered in the thousands more)
 Over 1.2 million tickets were sold to events
 Approximately 82 per cent of Games-wide contracts were awarded to Queensland
businesses, worth nearly $1.7 billion
 The Games were held in 18 world-class facilities; including three new sporting
venues, one new multi-purpose venue and seven upgraded venues.
 These venues are now supporting the local community and hosting national and
international events. Some venues are booked out 18 months in advance.

As compelling as these numbers are there were also some important firsts that occurred on
the Gold Coast in 2018, firsts that we would love to see duplicated here. For the first time
women’s participation matched men’s, with an equal number of medals being awarded to
women and men.

Importantly, this was also the first Commonwealth Games to integrate the para-athletic
events into the Games itself with a 45 per cent increase in the number of para-participants -
hosting nearly 300 athletes across 38 medal events.

The first ever Commonwealth Games Reconciliation Action Plan was developed providing a
platform to recognise, respect and celebrate Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures
and GC2018 implemented a range of initiatives to encourage lesbian, gay, bisexual,
transgender, intersexual and queer (LGBTIQ+) inclusion at GC2018.

Alongside the sporting schedule the Gold Coast Commonwealth Games delivered Festival
2018, the arts and culture program for the Games, which was the largest arts and culture
event ever hosted in Queensland with 550 events and more than 1.1 million attendees.

In addition the Gold Coast 2018 Commonwealth Games Trade and Investment Program,
was one of the most extensive business, trade and investment engagement campaigns for
an international sporting event.
The benefits of hosting a Games are so much broader than a 12 day sporting event. In
Queensland these benefits included:

Tourism
 More than 1.3 million visitors in the lead-up to, during and after the Games –
spending more than $1.1 billion in Queensland
 The Games was broadcast to an estimated world-wide audience of 1.5 billion people,
showcasing the Gold Coast and Queensland as premiere tourism destinations
 So far, more than 100 national and international events have been secured in
Queensland as a result of hosting the Games.
Trade
 Trade 2018: GC2018’s trade and investment program, showcased the Gold Coast
and Queensland as a destination to invest and to do business
 Through the exposure generated by Trade 2018, additional exports and foreign
direct investment of about $840 million are estimated over the four years post-
Games

 International Trade 2018 activations were undertaken in seven priority
Commonwealth markets
 During the Games, more than 2500 attendances were recorded across 32 Trade
2018 events with site visits held on the Gold Coast, Brisbane, Townsville and Cairns
 Two Queensland businesses that participated in Trade 2018 have secured their first
export deals with a buyer who attended the showcase.

In the words of The Honourable Kate Jones, Minister for Innovation and Tourism: GC2018
was a transformational event for the Gold Coast, our event cities and communities
throughout Queensland. It has created an impressive legacy for Queensland - boosting
tourism, driving trade and investment, delivering new and improved infrastructure, and
extending our global status as a place for world-class events.

Now I don’t want to sound like a patriotic South Australian here, but hey if Queensland can
do this, we can, can’t we?

We certainly know how to run a mighty fine festival, look at Fringe and Festival, Dream Big,
WOMAD and Cabaret to name a few. And we know how to host great sporting events, The
Tour Down Under, Adelaide 500, The Formula 1 (before Victoria stole it) International
Tennis (and now WTA events) at Memorial Drive and the first ever day-night cricket test.
We know we have an incredible state with the most beautiful places to visit and the food and
wine to match it. (We know it but sadly not everyone knows it) The Barossa and Claire,
McLaren Vale, Victor Harbour, the Flinders Ranges and our amazing regional towns and
cities. Why wouldn’t we want to showcase these to the world – to potentially 1.2 million
visitors here for the Games and a 1.5 billion audience globally? You can’t buy that kind of
exposure.

I recently interviewed a young woman from London who was here in Adelaide as her
husband had been transferred through his work. I asked her what she knew about Adelaide
and South Australia before coming here. Her answer; she had never heard of us, didn’t even
know we existed. Of course, now that she is here she is loving it and raving about our
lifestyle.

Let’s show the world we exist South Australia, let’s show the world that we welcome them
here as tourists, to trade and invest with us, oh and for 12 days we will also host the best
athletes in the Commonwealth and our next generation of aspiring athletes will be able to
attend and watch them live and aspire to be like them.

And not only will our elite athletes aspire to be like them, all South Australian’s might be
inspired to get out and get more active through this event. We know how many lycra
wearing cyclists appear during the Tour Down Under!

We do know that these types of events, particularly when our own athletes are successful,
have a bounce back effect in our grassroots sporting clubs. More people feel inspired to get
out and participate and of course more people participating in sport means less of a burden
on our health budget. It really is a win-win.

Also for our grassroots clubs is the opportunity for legacy sporting infrastructure from the
Games. It is true we already have great sporting venues that are Games ready and great
entertainment venues that can be converted to be Games ready but inevitably with hosting
an event of this scale there will need to be upgrades and/or new venues purpose built. This
creates jobs and investment and creates new or upgraded venues that can be used by the
community post Games. Exactly the outcome that has occurred on the Gold Coast.
Another potential community benefit is the athletes village, 6600 people have to sleep
somewhere...but what happens to the athletes village post Games? Wouldn’t it be great if
the village was designed in a way that it could be used for affordable housing post Games,
what an incredible Games legacy this would be?

There are so many legacies that this Games could bring to our beautiful state, there are so
many opportunities to connect and showcase our Arts, food, wine, tourist and regional cities
through this event. There are so many exciting opportunities to inspire our next generation
of elite athletes as well as our couch athletes.

What a legacy this government would be leaving if we put our hand up to host the 2026
Commonwealth Games.

Come on South Australia, we can do this, let’s get behind it, let’s make 2026 the year the
whole world discovers South Australia?

To view the full Gold Coast Commonwealth games report visit: https://publications.qld.gov.au/dataset ... oast-2018-
commonwealth-games-post-games-report
For further information please contact: Leah Cassidy, CEO, Sport SA, on 08 8353 7755,
Mobile: 0427 371 165 or email ceo@sportsa.org.au
Authorised by Sport SA, Military Road West Beach SA 5024

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Re: Commonwealth Games in Adelaide

#188 Post by rev » Sat Jul 13, 2019 5:07 pm

We'd have to be absolutely mad not to host the Commonwealth Games.
If we build a proper multi-use/reconfigurable rectangular stadium, it would also boost our chances of being included in a future World Cup bid.

We very much can do it and do it successfully. Look at Qatar, a country of 2.5 million people with an $187 billion GDP, hosting the 2022 World Cup. Which might just be soccer, but it is bigger then the Commonwealth Games.
Our population is 1.7 million and our economy is $107 billion. We would also get backing from Canberra, the national GDP is $1.5 trillion.
Qatar even bribed their way to winning it for 2022, we wouldn't need to bribe anyone.
Here's the 8 venues they will have for it.
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Re: Commonwealth Games in Adelaide

#189 Post by andynguyen » Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:12 pm

I think the next mega sporting event Adelaide should bid for is the 2036 Olympic Games rather than 2026 Commonwealth Games.

If we choose to host the 2026 Commonwealth Games, it’s going to be too much of a rush to get things done in 7 years. The North South Corridor (a key congestion busting project linking Adelaide’s northern and southern suburbs without a single traffic light) won’t be fully completed by 2026 and there hasn’t been specific concepts designed yet for a new rectangular stadium or an indoor arena, nor the Adelaide underground rail. And tram extensions to Adelaide Airport and Gepps Cross may not happen under the current government in South Australia.

Also, we had just recently hosted the 2018 Commonwealth Games on the Gold Coast and Australia already has hosted five Commonwealth Games, the highest number of Commonwealth Games hosted by a Commonwealth Games jurisdiction, followed by England and Canada with four Commonwealth Games each. It is only fair that the 2026 Commonwealth Games host is outside of Australia and the UK, which the Commonwealth Games Federation is desperate for. They have a few cities that are interested at hosting Commonwealth Games, and some could be in countries that haven't hosted the Commonwealth Games yet. But some of those cities haven’t been revealed yet.

After 2026, the next Commonwealth Games will be in 2030 (which will most likely go to Canada to celebrate the centenary of the Commonwealth Games), followed by 2034 (where Australia might host the soccer World Cup jointly with Indonesia, thus Adelaide won’t bid for Commonwealth Games if it takes part in a bid for the soccer World Cup).

Furthermore, it is possible the host city of the 2036 Olympic Games could be announced earlier than the host city for the 2034 Commonwealth Games. More recently, the International Olympic Committee has changed the rules regarding the bidding process for an Olympic Games meaning the host city of any Olympics can be chosen at any time instead of the traditional timeframe of seven years before the Olympics. The 2028 Olympic Games, awarded to Los Angeles, was announced in 2017, 11 years in advance.

Therefore, Adelaide should forget the Commonwealth Games and look to a much bigger, brighter vision of hosting an Olympic Games in 2036. We will be better prepared and in a much better position to host a mega sporting event in 2036 than in 2026, and Adelaide is well placed to host Olympics than anywhere else in Australia. It will be the largest sporting event ever hosted by Australia, and an Adelaide Olympic Games in 2036 will also coincide with South Australia’s 200th anniversary which makes the occasion even more significant! To put it another way, a successful Adelaide Olympic Games bid for 2036 means the Olympics will be a major component of South Australia’s bicentenary celebrations!

Whilst we are still in planning stages for a new rectangular stadium and indoor arena, the only other venues Adelaide need to build include a BMX track (recently funded), a new aquatic centre to replace the outdated Adelaide Aquatic Centre, as well as a canoe slalom whitewater centre and, together with upgrades to several venues, Adelaide will be all good to go to host an Olympic Games in 2036.

And by doing hosting an Olympics in 2036, transport infrastructure and development will be more spread out, meaning a boost in jobs and economic development will be spread out for at least the next 17 years – this means more ongoing opportunities for South Australians! We'll have the infrastructure projects that we desperately need completed by 2036 with thorough planning, and by 2036 we could even have the road and rail bypass of Adelaide completed, a second South Australian International airport which could open 24 hours and new frequent train services along the Adelaide Hills with a new direct rail corridor, and maybe regional trains to Victor Harbor and the Barossa Valley and fast rail and duplicated road to Melbourne.

There will be new developments in Adelaide’s suburbs including Marion, West Lakes, Mawson Lakes, Glenelg and Outer Harbor, along with a second South Australian casino and even a new Disneyland theme park by 2036 for Adelaide creating new construction jobs and ongoing jobs in many industries! We’ll have better facilities which would benefit the community and lead to more concert tours, sporting and entertainment events for Adelaide in the longer term. In addition, the Olympics are now focusing on the youth audience, with new sports recently added include 3x3 basketball, BMX freestyle cycling, and for at least the 2020 and 2024 Olympics, surfing, skateboarding and sport climbing. With all this, an Adelaide Olympic Games will encourage more young people to stay in South Australia rather than moving interstate or overseas. It will also encourage more young people to visit South Australia! And we’ll make a great legacy out of an Adelaide Olympic Games!

In addition, Olympics carry more economic benefits and international exposure to every country in the world, with around 2 million visitors, a global TV audience of 3.5 billion people and at least 6 million Olympic Games tickets sold! With that in mind, an Olympics is the best and ultimate way to promote Adelaide and South Australian offerings to the rest of the world, and a successful Adelaide Olympic Games bid means hardly anyone can be forgotten about our great city in the future! You only have to look at an increase in tourism in Tokyo and Japan since Tokyo was announced the host of the 2020 Olympics in 2013! If we have the facilities, infrastructure, finances and support, an Adelaide Olympic Games is possible, and it could be a game changer for the Olympics itself as well, because Olympics don’t need to be held in mega cities where congestion and connectivity are generally the problem!

A successful Adelaide Olympic Games bid will mean a 17-day sports festival in a festival city! An Olympic Games in Adelaide is within reach because we can prove that we can successfully organise a series of annual festivals and events, particularly during Mad March which goes from mid-February to late March consisting of Adelaide Festival, Fringe Festival, WOMADelaide, Adelaide 500, Tasting Australia festival, the Adelaide Cup and the occasional music festivals. We can also thrive on a strong sporting culture, with South Australia producing 11 out of 29 Olympic medallists for Australia at the last summer Olympics in Rio in 2016. That’s 38% of total medals for Australia, given South Australia is 7% of the total Australian population. And we excelled in AFL and cricket for many generations! If Adelaide and South Australia can host the Olympics, it could mean South Australia can rival, or even overtake Victoria as the nation’s sporting capital!

I’ve even set up a Facebook page dedicated to the Adelaide Olympic Games bid campaign, hit up this link for more: https://www.facebook.com/adelaidegames, and be sure to like and share that page if you’ve got Facebook!

If Australia gets to host an Olympics in 2036, let’s hope that “the winner is ADELAIDE!”

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Re: Commonwealth Games in Adelaide

#190 Post by rev » Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:41 pm

Couldn't you just keep this in your Olympics thread?
andynguyen wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:12 pm
I think the next mega sporting event Adelaide should bid for is the 2036 Olympic Games rather than 2026 Commonwealth Games.

If we choose to host the 2026 Commonwealth Games, it’s going to be too much of a rush to get things done in 7 years. The North South Corridor (a key congestion busting project linking Adelaide’s northern and southern suburbs without a single traffic light) won’t be fully completed by 2026 and there hasn’t been specific concepts designed yet for a new rectangular stadium or an indoor arena, nor the Adelaide underground rail. And tram extensions to Adelaide Airport and Gepps Cross may not happen under the current government in South Australia.
Too much of a rush to do what? Build an athletes village? We have most sporting infrastructure. It doesn't take that long.
The athletes village for Birmingham 2022 only started construction in May this year.

What extension to Gepps Cross?
Why do we need underground rail to host a Commonwealth Games? Why do we need a train extension to the airport? Melbourne hosted the Commonwealth games without a rail link to it's airport, and our airport is a lot closer then Tullamarine to Melbourne CBD.
Also, we had just recently hosted the 2018 Commonwealth Games on the Gold Coast and Australia already has hosted five Commonwealth Games, the highest number of Commonwealth Games hosted by a Commonwealth Games jurisdiction, followed by England and Canada with four Commonwealth Games each. It is only fair that the 2026 Commonwealth Games host is outside of Australia and the UK, which the Commonwealth Games Federation is desperate for. They have a few cities that are interested at hosting Commonwealth Games, and some could be in countries that haven't hosted the Commonwealth Games yet. But some of those cities haven’t been revealed yet.
What does it matter when we last hosted the Commonwealth Games, and how many?
After 2026, the next Commonwealth Games will be in 2030 (which will most likely go to Canada to celebrate the centenary of the Commonwealth Games), followed by 2034 (where Australia might host the soccer World Cup jointly with Indonesia, thus Adelaide won’t bid for Commonwealth Games if it takes part in a bid for the soccer World Cup).
Why do you think Adelaide wont bid for the Commonwealth Games in 2026, if Australia bids for the 2034 World Cup?

We wont do a joint bid with Indonesia for the FIFA World Cup, and even if we did, we wont win it because of the distances involved.
Furthermore, it is possible the host city of the 2036 Olympic Games could be announced earlier than the host city for the 2034 Commonwealth Games. More recently, the International Olympic Committee has changed the rules regarding the bidding process for an Olympic Games meaning the host city of any Olympics can be chosen at any time instead of the traditional timeframe of seven years before the Olympics. The 2028 Olympic Games, awarded to Los Angeles, was announced in 2017, 11 years in advance.
So what?
The 2026 Commonwealth Games is going to be awarded this September.
If the Olympics, which is much larger, can get things done in 7 years, why can't we for a Commonwealth Games, when many of the venues already exist and most would need only some upgrades?
Therefore, Adelaide should forget the Commonwealth Games and look to a much bigger, brighter vision of hosting an Olympic Games in 2036. We will be better prepared and in a much better position to host a mega sporting event in 2036 than in 2026, and Adelaide is well placed to host Olympics than anywhere else in Australia. It will be the largest sporting event ever hosted by Australia, and an Adelaide Olympic Games in 2036 will also coincide with South Australia’s 200th anniversary which makes the occasion even more significant! To put it another way, a successful Adelaide Olympic Games bid for 2036 means the Olympics will be a major component of South Australia’s bicentenary celebrations!
Take a look at the cities that have hosted a Summer Olympic Games and compare them to Adelaide. Adelaide wont be that much different in 2036 to what it is today.
We have absolutely no hope in hosting an Olympics in 2036, not even in the year 2136.
Whilst we are still in planning stages for a new rectangular stadium and indoor arena, the only other venues Adelaide need to build include a BMX track (recently funded), a new aquatic centre to replace the outdated Adelaide Aquatic Centre, as well as a canoe slalom whitewater centre and, together with upgrades to several venues, Adelaide will be all good to go to host an Olympic Games in 2036.
Brisbane has identified that they will be short tens of thousands of hotel rooms for 2032. Their tourism industry is massive compared to ours. They already have much, much more hotel stock then we do.
Do you think that we can build enough hotels in time for 2036, when Brisbane can't achieve it by 2032 with the massive head start they have with existing hotels?
And by doing hosting an Olympics in 2036, transport infrastructure and development will be more spread out, meaning a boost in jobs and economic development will be spread out for at least the next 17 years – this means more ongoing opportunities for South Australians! We'll have the infrastructure projects that we desperately need completed by 2036 with thorough planning, and by 2036 we could even have the road and rail bypass of Adelaide completed, a second South Australian International airport which could open 24 hours and new frequent train services along the Adelaide Hills with a new direct rail corridor, and maybe regional trains to Victor Harbor and the Barossa Valley and fast rail and duplicated road to Melbourne.
That only extends the traffic chaos associated with road works/infrastructure works for nearly two more decades. The aim should be to get the work done as quickly as possible. The whole point of things like motorways after all, is to create a more efficient transport network because it saves everyone a lot of money. Governments and councils save on maintenance as motorways attract the heavier vehicles more often then they would use regular roads. Motorists save because they aren't stuck in traffic as often. Transport industry saves because they can do their jobs quicker and more efficiently. The longer it takes to deliver goods, the more that cost is passed on so transport companies stay profitable. That cost gets passe on to the consumer eventually.

Extending the nightmare of major infrastructure/road works out to two decades is a crazy idea when it can be done quicker.

Why do we need a second international airport?
What does regional train services in SA have to do with the Olympics? It's white elephant project status. Those sorts of services aren't required by South Australians, there isn't the population to support such expenditure.
Fast rail to Melbourne? There isn't even high speed rail between Melbourne and Sydney, our two biggest cities running between our two most populous states.
There will be new developments in Adelaide’s suburbs including Marion, West Lakes, Mawson Lakes, Glenelg and Outer Harbor, along with a second South Australian casino and even a new Disneyland theme park by 2036 for Adelaide creating new construction jobs and ongoing jobs in many industries! We’ll have better facilities which would benefit the community and lead to more concert tours, sporting and entertainment events for Adelaide in the longer term. In addition, the Olympics are now focusing on the youth audience, with new sports recently added include 3x3 basketball, BMX freestyle cycling, and for at least the 2020 and 2024 Olympics, surfing, skateboarding and sport climbing. With all this, an Adelaide Olympic Games will encourage more young people to stay in South Australia rather than moving interstate or overseas. It will also encourage more young people to visit South Australia! And we’ll make a great legacy out of an Adelaide Olympic Games!
Developments at Mawson Lakes, West Lakes and Glenelg will happen regardless.
What developments are going to occur at Outer Harbor?
Which operators have shown interest in a second casino in Adelaide?
Since when are we getting a Disneyland?

We get missed by many concert tours not because we don't have venues to suit, but because they struggle to make money in Adelaide.
In addition, Olympics carry more economic benefits and international exposure to every country in the world, with around 2 million visitors, a global TV audience of 3.5 billion people and at least 6 million Olympic Games tickets sold! With that in mind, an Olympics is the best and ultimate way to promote Adelaide and South Australian offerings to the rest of the world, and a successful Adelaide Olympic Games bid means hardly anyone can be forgotten about our great city in the future! You only have to look at an increase in tourism in Tokyo and Japan since Tokyo was announced the host of the 2020 Olympics in 2013! If we have the facilities, infrastructure, finances and support, an Adelaide Olympic Games is possible, and it could be a game changer for the Olympics itself as well, because Olympics don’t need to be held in mega cities where congestion and connectivity are generally the problem!
We're are 2 million people going to stay in Adelaide? We don't have hotels to cope with 200,000 people. Like I said Brisbane has identified that they will be short a few tens of thousands of hotel rooms for 2032. How are we going to make up the shortfall by 2036 when they are already so far ahead in terms of absolute numbers? We cant.
A successful Adelaide Olympic Games bid will mean a 17-day sports festival in a festival city! An Olympic Games in Adelaide is within reach because we can prove that we can successfully organise a series of annual festivals and events, particularly during Mad March which goes from mid-February to late March consisting of Adelaide Festival, Fringe Festival, WOMADelaide, Adelaide 500, Tasting Australia festival, the Adelaide Cup and the occasional music festivals. We can also thrive on a strong sporting culture, with South Australia producing 11 out of 29 Olympic medallists for Australia at the last summer Olympics in Rio in 2016. That’s 38% of total medals for Australia, given South Australia is 7% of the total Australian population. And we excelled in AFL and cricket for many generations! If Adelaide and South Australia can host the Olympics, it could mean South Australia can rival, or even overtake Victoria as the nation’s sporting capital!
Every other major capital in Australia has festivals throughout the year. Some are actually much bigger then our festivals. Vivid attracts over 2 million people and Moomba nearly 4 million.

Do you realize the Olympics, compared to the festivals we have, are like two vastly different things, and logistically you can't even compare them?

We might need to actually host a number of international sporting events of significance first before claiming the title of the nations sporting capital. And even then, Melbourne's sporting infrastructure is well ahead of ours.
We might also need to be included in the other major sporting code in this country, the NRL.
Melbourne is getting a third A League franchise btw. The FFA is talking about a national second division. Only one SA club is interested, West Adelaide.
I’ve even set up a Facebook page dedicated to the Adelaide Olympic Games bid campaign, hit up this link for more: https://www.facebook.com/adelaidegames, and be sure to like and share that page if you’ve got Facebook!

If Australia gets to host an Olympics in 2036, let’s hope that “the winner is ADELAIDE!”
Have you stopped to consider that Brisbane might win the 2032 Olympics? What happens to your grand plan then.

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Re: Commonwealth Games in Adelaide

#191 Post by rev » Sat Aug 03, 2019 3:15 pm

eSports, BMX, skateboarding pitch considered for 2026 Commonwealth Games
Reece Homfray, Sunday Mail (SA)
August 3, 2019 1:14pm
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A futuristic program of electronic and extreme sports is being considered by the State Government as part of a plan to change the face of the Commonwealth Games and bring the international event to Adelaide in 2026.

A feasibility study into whether SA has the capacity to host the Games, at what cost and economic benefit is due by the end of the month but the Sunday Mail understands it has been broadened to investigate what the event would look like in six years’ time.

According to sources, the State Government has also challenged its Commonwealth Games working party, led by the Office of Recreation and Sport, to find ways that it can put its own modern stamp on what is typically seen as a traditional sporting event.

The game-changer could well be eSports — online video game competitions — that attract millions of eyeballs of professional competitors and fans all over the world and present new commercial and marketing opportunities particularly in Asia.

The Adelaide Football Club bought into eSports in 2017 and now owns five different teams with the corporate backing of companies such as Optus, Samsung, Intel and Acer, and one of its players streams his games to 20,000 followers on YouTube.

The international eSports community was rocked on Friday when one of its biggest stars known as “Ninja”, who reportedly earns $500,000 a month streaming his games on Twitch, had been poached by a rival platform owned by Microsoft.

According to reports, eSports will have a total audience of 250 million by 2021.

There have also been talks about whether a Commonwealth Games in Adelaide could incorporate non-traditional sports such as skateboarding, freestyle BMX and speed climbing which are all on the next Olympic program in Tokyo next year.

Sports Minister Corey Wingard would not comment on specifics of the State Government’s feasibility study but said it remained “open minded” to ideas of how to grow or change the event.

“A feasibility study for a potential bid for the Commonwealth Games is currently underway and we would not want to pre-empt that process,” Mr Wingard said.

“However, we remain open-minded to any ideas which may stem from that study, and during the planning process, that would ensure that if Adelaide did bid for the Games in either 2026, 2030 or 2034 it would be the best ever.”

The next Commonwealth Games are set to be held in Birmingham, UK, in 2022, and 2030 is set to go to Canada to mark the 100th anniversary of the birthplace of the Empire Games, meaning 2026 is Australia — and Adelaide’s — to lose if the State Government wants it.

A decision on the 2026 host city was expected to be made by the end of this year but that has been delayed by 12 months after the Commonwealth Games Federation wrote to its member nations advising them it would now be made at its general assembly next September or October.

The CGF’s constitution says host cities must be decided at least seven years out but the new timeframe has been introduced after Durban was stripped of the 2022 Games and they were awarded to Birmingham.

Commonwealth Games Australia has until next July to nominate which, if any, of its cities will nominate for hosting rights.

Adelaide is the only major Australian capital city yet to host the Commonwealth Games after Sydney (1938), Perth (1962), Brisbane (1982), Melbourne (2006) and the Gold Coast (2018) which delivered a $2.5 billion economic boost to the Queensland Government, and that was after significant capital infrastructure spend.

The Commonwealth Games Federation says it is determined to work with potential host cities to find a way of staging a Games with infrastructure upgrades rather than starting from scratch and has formed a new arm called CGF Partnerships to help with the Games’ delivery.

The State Government has previously said hosting the Commonwealth Games in 2026 could be too soon, but with the Queensland Government expected to bid for the 2032 Olympics, there is expected to be significant competition for corporate sponsorship if a Commonwealth Games came Down Under in 2030 or 2034.

CGA chief executive Craig Phillips was in Adelaide in April to meet with the State Government and said SA would mount a “compelling case” to host the Games.

One of the major sticking points is the use of Adelaide Oval and delivering a Games with minimal disruption to normal activity.

As of last month, the State Government’s working party had not had any formal discussions with the Stadium Management Authority, but the most likely scenario would see an Adelaide Games held in late October, forcing the Redbacks to temporarily relocate and pushing the annual Test Match to January.

“You have to go a long way to beat Adelaide in terms of a city that could really come alive with the festival of the Games, along the riverbank, the Convention Centre and Adelaide Oval, we see it being a very vibrant place,” Mr Phillips said in Adelaide in April.

“In fact you would have to go a long way to find cities anywhere else in the Commonwealth that have the same sort of offering of venues in close proximity to each other but also to the centre of town.
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Re: Commonwealth Games in Adelaide

#192 Post by 1NEEDS2POST » Sun Aug 04, 2019 5:34 pm

Why do they even need to travel to Adelaide to play eSports?

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#193 Post by bits » Sun Aug 04, 2019 6:55 pm

1NEEDS2POST wrote:Why do they even need to travel to Adelaide to play eSports?
To be fair all players would need the same network conditions. Also you need to be able to control the machine to prove it isn't running unapprove or modified software or hardware
You need to be all in the same room.

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Re: Commonwealth Games in Adelaide

#194 Post by rev » Sun Aug 04, 2019 6:56 pm

1NEEDS2POST wrote:
Sun Aug 04, 2019 5:34 pm
Why do they even need to travel to Adelaide to play eSports?
Because it happens like a giant LAN party.
There's spectators as well.

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Re: Commonwealth Games in Adelaide

#195 Post by bits » Sun Aug 04, 2019 6:58 pm

Why do you need all runners in a 100m race in the one venue?
100m in Adelaide is the same as 100m in China?
Of course the answer is the conditions are not equal so the competition would be unfair.

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