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#76 Post by breezy213 » Fri Dec 06, 2019 8:31 pm

I love the fact Adelaide is finally starting to catch up with the world, it's definitely a major risk/sacrifice to take this on. If you knew how much even this Coles means to the city, the amount of reliance people have on the current setup is alarming. Its one of the busiest Coles in all of Australia. All the small shops in the arcade, taking that away for 4 years and never getting those things back, it's definitely going to threaten the central markets in its entirety.

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#77 Post by Mpol03 » Sat Dec 07, 2019 12:10 am

Love this. Truly hope it happens.

Just need this, the University proposal and Dominator to get off and we have a real change to the city.

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#78 Post by HiTouch » Sat Dec 07, 2019 12:11 am

breezy213 wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 8:31 pm
I love the fact Adelaide is finally starting to catch up with the world, it's definitely a major risk/sacrifice to take this on. If you knew how much even this Coles means to the city, the amount of reliance people have on the current setup is alarming. Its one of the busiest Coles in all of Australia. All the small shops in the arcade, taking that away for 4 years and never getting those things back, it's definitely going to threaten the central markets in its entirety.
I agree. This is probably the most important Coles in the nation. I have heard it's considered the Canberra of all Coles Supermarkets. A place where all the big decisions are made yet a place where dodgy things take place. It's as cosmopolitan as Singapore yet as Fashionable as Paris yet with a Bangkok underbelly. It's not just the most important supermarket in the world though. It's the most important hub in all of Grote Street.

If Grote Street was an Elder Scrolls video game, this Coles would be considered the Imperial City. If Grote St was the Roman empire, this would be Rome and Constantinople rolled into one.

And we all know what happens when you give up Constantinople... somebody alert the Premier, no the prime minister, no the Queen!! The future is in our hands. Save Coles Grote Street!!

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#79 Post by SBD » Sat Dec 07, 2019 12:18 am

Backing up a couple of hours, one of these towers is described as going to be a hotel, but no brandname has been identified. Hilton have a hotel in a building it doesn't own. Is there a good reason that Hilton would not consider moving to the shiny new taller u=building next door, and leave it to the landlord to work out what to do with the building by Victoria Square? How "special" is square frontage compared to Central Market frontage and a slightly longer walk to the tram stop?

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#80 Post by ml69 » Sat Dec 07, 2019 12:39 am

SBD wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2019 12:18 am
Backing up a couple of hours, one of these towers is described as going to be a hotel, but no brandname has been identified. Hilton have a hotel in a building it doesn't own. Is there a good reason that Hilton would not consider moving to the shiny new taller u=building next door, and leave it to the landlord to work out what to do with the building by Victoria Square? How "special" is square frontage compared to Central Market frontage and a slightly longer walk to the tram stop?
I don’t think Hilton will move into the new building.
The Hilton’s location fronting our main public square is very prominent. It would be foolish to lose that.

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#81 Post by Jaymz » Sat Dec 07, 2019 12:49 am

breezy213 wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 8:31 pm
I love the fact Adelaide is finally starting to catch up with the world, it's definitely a major risk/sacrifice to take this on. If you knew how much even this Coles means to the city, the amount of reliance people have on the current setup is alarming. Its one of the busiest Coles in all of Australia. All the small shops in the arcade, taking that away for 4 years and never getting those things back, it's definitely going to threaten the central markets in its entirety.
Really? It's probably one of the shittest Coles in Adelaide! Go check out (pun not intended) Castle Plaza or Burnside and you'll see. I agree, the CBD Coles should be the best, but it's a dive.

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#82 Post by timtam20292 » Sat Dec 07, 2019 12:55 am

Don’t forget the Rundle Mall Coles. A very nice Supermarket that one.

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#83 Post by Pants » Sat Dec 07, 2019 6:52 am

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From The Advertiser:

Plans revealed for Adelaide Central Market Arcade redevelopment
Adelaide City Council has unveiled plans for a 35-storey building which will tower over the Adelaide Central Market as part of a major redevelopment of its arcade.

A 35-storey residential, commercial and retail building will tower over the Adelaide Central Market as part of a $400 million redevelopment of its arcade.

Adelaide City Council, which owns the site, today announced a partnership with Melbourne-based developer ICD Property to deliver the long-awaited project.

The tower will include specialty retail, food and beverage areas, a central public hall, public rooftop gardens, a 249-room hotel, 210 apartments, a supermarket, offices, 260 car parks and a childcare.

Adelaide Lord Mayor Sandy Verschoor said the development would bring an extra one million people per year to the market district and “would secure” the district’s future.

“It will complement and enhance the Adelaide Central Market as a world-class fresh produce market and visitor attraction,” Ms Verschoor said.

“We have a seamless transition between that new development and that existing Central Market and we bring new life right to the heart of the city.”

Demolition is set to start in May 2021.

Ms Verschoor said the council would work with the 61 arcade traders that need to leave.

“Our teams are also working to see if they want to relocate … so whether there are any other opportunities for them to work from the city,” Ms Verschoor said.

ICD Property managing director Matthew Khoo said he wanted to create “vertical city” that connected “the past with the future”.

He said it was an “honour” to redevelop such an important community asset.

“The Adelaide Central Market Arcade has been a prominent community space for 150 years,” Mr Khoo said.

“What we intend to do is enhance the existing structure by restoring and protecting heritage items and building complementary new assets that will become new amenities for the community to enjoy.”

The design, by Woods Bagot, will “seamlessly” blend with the existing market, which will be left untouched to create a continuous connection between the two.

Arches that were partially demolished in the 1960s will be reinstated on the Grote St facade.

Woods Bagot associate principal Alex Hall said the redevelopment would make Adelaide’s market district one of the best in the world.

“The Adelaide market dates back to 1869, when a group of local gardeners sold their wares without any structure other than gas lights and a fence,” Mr Hall said.

“A century and a half on, we’re looking to sensitively create a space that can carry that local entrepreneurial spirit forward.”

Adelaide Central Market Authority general manager Jodie Kannane said: “The redevelopment …will extend the market offer and provide a thriving mixed-use place, complementing the vital role of the Adelaide Central Market as a hub of food and culture in the city.”

Woods Bagot will now work on further detailed designs and start consultation with key stakeholders.

ICD property plan to lodge formal plans with the State Commission Assessment Panel in mid next year.

During construction, 260 parking spaces at the old bus station on Franklin St will be released to make up for those lost during construction.

The Adelaide Central Market Traders Advisory Group was contacted for comment.

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#84 Post by rev » Sat Dec 07, 2019 9:29 am

35 levels? Make it 50.

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#85 Post by [Shuz] » Sat Dec 07, 2019 10:36 am

Love the proposal, especially the red brick arches, and am really glad that they're keeping the original markets intact. 24/7 nightlife and improved laneway access and connections. All around a very positive outcome.
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#86 Post by ChillyPhilly » Sat Dec 07, 2019 12:34 pm

An all round outstanding proposal!

Looking forward, I hope this is in time combined with completion of the Victoria Square upgrade. Imagine a redeveloped Central Market flowing toward a classy Vic Square.
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#87 Post by aceman » Sat Dec 07, 2019 9:38 pm

what will the height of the main building be?

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#88 Post by rev » Sat Dec 07, 2019 9:40 pm

[Shuz] wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2019 10:36 am
Love the proposal, especially the red brick arches, and am really glad that they're keeping the original markets intact. 24/7 nightlife and improved laneway access and connections. All around a very positive outcome.
Pretty sure they said on the news report that the old market hall will be demolished?

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#89 Post by SRW » Sat Dec 07, 2019 10:42 pm

rev wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2019 9:40 pm
[Shuz] wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2019 10:36 am
Love the proposal, especially the red brick arches, and am really glad that they're keeping the original markets intact. 24/7 nightlife and improved laneway access and connections. All around a very positive outcome.
Pretty sure they said on the news report that the old market hall will be demolished?
Not sure how you gained that impression as this development only concerns the market arcade (aka the section Coles is in).
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#90 Post by citywatcher » Sat Dec 07, 2019 11:16 pm

rev wrote:35 levels? Make it 50.
Save the 50 for a more prime position.
The finish date for this is probably in 2024 sometime so we'll have to be patient.

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