[ONH] 51 Pirie Street | 114m | 28 Levels | Hyatt

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#421 Post by Ho Really » Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:20 am

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I've flown into London City Airport (Western approach) and can tell you it feels like you are within touching distance of the skyscrapers in Canary Wharf. If this is permissible within one of the bigger cities in the world; Maximum building heights in Adelaide's CBD should be revised upwards imminently.
:applause: London is a very relevant example. Flight procedures there were changed to allow The Shard to be built and it subsequently resulted in a huge amount of regeneration in the surrounding area. London City Airport and Heathrow actively supported the changes as obviously a growing city is good for their business. If the busiest airspace in the world can accommodate increased building height, I think Adelaide can manage it.
Fellas remember Kai Tak and Checkerboard Hill? :shock:

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#422 Post by Smithy85 » Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:54 pm

Project “delayed” according to InDaily and ACC.

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#423 Post by Patrick_27 » Thu Feb 27, 2020 3:03 pm

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Project “delayed” according to InDaily and ACC.

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Might as well state the obvious: project cancelled. Next...

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#424 Post by citywatcher » Thu Feb 27, 2020 5:16 pm

Makes you worry about other proposals when Hyatt can't make it happen

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#425 Post by gnrc_louis » Thu Feb 27, 2020 5:30 pm

Could actually just be a short delay?

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#426 Post by rev » Thu Feb 27, 2020 5:49 pm

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Makes you worry about other proposals when Hyatt can't make it happen

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Is the Park Hotel Group or the Hyatt Hotels Corporation?? or that other group that is mentioned in InDaily?

The article also simply says that it's got some delays.
It doesn't say what, why, or anything specific. Hopefully it is just a delay.

I reckon the delay has to do with the existing heritage listed facade. The original design kept it.

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#427 Post by Jaymz » Thu Feb 27, 2020 6:02 pm

Perhaps we already have enough high-end hotels under construction at the moment.... Sofitel, Skycity, Crowne Plaza, Adelaide Oval. Westin perhaps not too far from starting. Adding another 300 five-star rooms might be a bit of a stretch for a state that attracts just under 500k international tourists each year.

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#428 Post by CDJ » Fri Feb 28, 2020 4:01 pm

This is a non-story. Design is just taking slightly longer than anticipated (which happens on most projects). Incredible how quick people are to come up with conspiracy theories based on nothing!

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#429 Post by Jaymz » Fri Feb 28, 2020 4:30 pm

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Fri Feb 28, 2020 4:01 pm
This is a non-story. Design is just taking slightly longer than anticipated (which happens on most projects). Incredible how quick people are to come up with conspiracy theories based on nothing!
Please fill us in with your inside information. We'd love to hear the facts.

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#430 Post by AdelaideGold » Fri Feb 28, 2020 6:26 pm

This was a surprisingly poor read for indaily.

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#431 Post by CDJ » Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:34 pm

Jaymz wrote:
Fri Feb 28, 2020 4:30 pm
CDJ wrote:
Fri Feb 28, 2020 4:01 pm
This is a non-story. Design is just taking slightly longer than anticipated (which happens on most projects). Incredible how quick people are to come up with conspiracy theories based on nothing!
Please fill us in with your inside information. We'd love to hear the facts.
Exactly as I stated: design is taking slightly longer than anticipated. This is not unusual!

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#432 Post by AdelaideGold » Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:05 am

Between you and me lol... a solid source told me this is likely kicking off around the same time as the old planet site and still going ahead.

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#433 Post by ozisnowman » Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:45 pm

These types of developments are probably quite wise. It all appears a bit speculative at this moment given what is going on. But now is the time to build. Builders will be looking for working so should be good for developers. Whilst post COVID-19 i suspect people after being boxed up for a while will want to get out and go on holidays but safely as such i suspect that local innerstate and interstate travel is more likely. Also suspect Australia and New Zealand will be seen as safe options rather than say Thailand, Vietnam, China etc and even most of Europe. Can't see a mad rush for Spain, Italy or CruiseShips anytime soon.

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#434 Post by AdelaideGold » Fri May 29, 2020 4:39 pm

Sadly my "source" was wrong. Mothballed according to afr.

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#435 Post by matthawke » Fri May 29, 2020 5:41 pm

Singapore's Chip Eng Seng mothballs local projects

https://www.afr.com/property/commercial ... 528-p54xbr
Singapore-listed property powerhouse Chip Eng Seng has mothballed plans for a new Hyatt hotel in Adelaide and an ambitious apartment project in Melbourne as it waits out the coronavirus-caused slowdown.

Chip Eng Seng expects to post a first-half loss as it absorbs the impact of the pandemic. Its footprint extends across Singapore, Australia and the Maldives.

"Based on a real estate market report prepared by analytics firm CoreLogic in May 2020, the residential property market in Australia has been impacted by the weakened economic conditions and a plunge in consumer sentiment," Chip Eng Seng said.

"In view of this, the group has suspended its marketing efforts for its residential development project in Melbourne, FIFTEEN85, till 2021."

Even before the virus crisis overwhelmed the local residential market, the developer's local arm, CEL Australia, had struggled with buyer interest in the 700-unit apartment project at Fishermans Bend on the city fringe.
At the first stage launch two years ago, the developer signed up buyers for just three of the 222 apartments on offer, despite offering tens of thousands of dollars in incentives to get purchasers over the line.

Chip Eng Seng's hotel portfolio in Australia is also feeling the chill. Occupancy at its two Australian hotels, The Sebel Mandurah in Western Australia and Mercure & Ibis Styles Grosvenor Hotel in Adelaide, has fallen to single-digit levels since March.

"The group expects occupancy in these two hotels to remain low so long as the demand for travel is severely curtailed by Australia's travel restrictions and quarantine requirements," it said.

Plans to add another hotel its holdings in Australia, a 27-storey development for Hyatt in the Adelaide CBD, have also been deferred until next year.

The 295-room Hyatt Regency on Pirie Street had been slated to open in 2023.

Chip Eng Seng reported earlier this week that it had launched legal proceedings for the return of a deposit on a childcare centre in Melbourne's west after the deal turned sour.

Three years ago the Singaporean developer abandoned one of the city's most controversial apartment developments, Tower Melbourne, putting it back on the market and refunding hundreds of buyer deposits after a protracted legal battle with a neighbouring landlord.

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