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#1561 Post by mattblack » Fri Apr 05, 2024 12:41 pm

Generation starts at what will be South Australia’s biggest wind farm goyder south wind farm neoen south australia


RENEWABLES WIND

Limited production has begun from the first stage of the 412 megawatt (MW) Goyder South wind project, which is destined to be the biggest wind farm in South Australia when completed.

The first output appears to have occurred in the late afternoon of Thursday, April 4, according to various NEM data sources, with up to 4MW produced by what is known as Goyder South 1A.

The first stage of the Goyder South project consists of two separate components, 1A and 1B, which are mostly dedicated to meeting contracts with the ACT government and Flow Power (1A), and a unique “baseload renewables” contract with BHP’s giant Olympic Dam mine (1B).

Project owner Neoen Australia earlier this week announced that the last of the 38 concrete foundations at the 209 MW 1A component have been completed, although it is not clear how many of the 5.5 MW wind turbines are fully installed and operating.

The installation of the 38 wind turbines at 1A started in October last year, and the substation serving both components was energised in December. The 203.5 MW 1B project, which will feature 37 turbines, is still at the stage of earthworks.

The addition of the Goyder South wind farm will propel South Australia closer to its accelerated target of reaching “net” 100 per cent renewables by 2027.

The state is already averaging 75 per cent wind and solar in the past year, according to the transmission company ElectraNet, which is world-leading for a grid of this size.

The completion of Goyder South will lift the state’s installed wind capacity to 2.8 gigawatts (GW) , with one quarter of that owned by Neoen, which also holds majority stakes in the three stages of the Hornsdale wind farm, and also owns the neighbouring Hornsdale Power Reserve, aka the original Tesla big battery.

Goyder South, which is located close to South Australia end of the new transmission link to NSW, may grow in size with plans for up to 1,200 MW of wind, 600 MW of solar, and 900 MW of battery capacity (with two to fours hours of storage).

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Re: News & Discussion: Electricity Infrastructure

#1562 Post by Algernon » Fri Apr 05, 2024 5:15 pm

Stages 1A and 1B are the "boring" bits of the project for me. But at 400MW, the nameplate capacity is already 1/3 larger than the current largest wind farm!

I'm more excited for the next stages and champing at the bit for that 900MW/1800MWh battery. Absolute game changer.

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#1563 Post by Ho Really » Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:27 am

Adelaide Is Capital City With Most Expensive Electricity, Finds New Study
Announcement posted by Supplemento 08 Apr 2024

Analysis of 7,612 residential electricity plans on the NEM in Australia in April 2024 reveals that Adelaide is the capital city with the most expensive electricity, at a real cost of 47.1 cents per kWh

BRISBANE, AUSTRALIA - 8 APRIL 2024: Adelaide is the capital city with the most expensive electricity, according to a new study by Energyse.

The analysis also found that households in Hobart spend the most on electricity (due to their large consumption), with a typical annual bill of $2,466 for a 2 person household.

Complete Results: https://energyse.com.au/research/electr ... s-apr-2024

This analysis involved Energyse analysing 7,612 residential electricity plans on offer on the National Electricity Market (NEM) in Australia in April 2024. Factors such as daily supply charges, usage rates, solar feed in tariffs and disconnection fees were analysed.

Most expensive capital city: Adelaide is the capital city with the most expensive electricity, with electricity costing 47.1 c/kWh for a typical 2 person household once daily usage charges are factored in.

Highest electricity rates: South Australia has the highest electricity rates on the NEM, at over 40 c/kWh for single use rate plans. This is 49% higher than the average of the rest of the NEM.

Highest daily supply charges: Regional NSW (on the Essential Energy network) has the highest daily supply charges, at an average of 152 cents per day. This is 61% higher than the average of the rest of the NEM.

City with highest spend: Households in Hobart spend the most on electricity (average of $2,466 per year for a 2 person household), though this is due to their large consumption (67% greater than the average of the other capital cities on the NEM).

Highest peak electricity rates: Adelaide is the capital city with the highest average peak electricity rates, at 47.3 c/kWh.

Highest solar feed in tariffs (region): Regional Queensland (excluding SEQ) has the highest average solar feed in tariff rates, at 13.4 c/kWh.

Lowest solar feed in tariffs (region): Victoria has the lowest average solar feed in tariffs on the NEM, at an average of 5.1 c/kWh, and a maximum of 9.9 c/kWh.

Highest solar feed in tariffs (capital city): Hobart is the capital city with the highest average solar feed in tariff rates, at 10.9 c/kWh.

Lowest off peak electricity rates: Tasmania has the lowest off peak electricity rates, at just 15.8 c/kWh.

Highest disconnection fees: Canberra is the capital city with the highest average disconnection fees, at $43.84.

"Whilst all across Australia we have seen substantial increases in residential electricity prices over the last few years, there are still significant disparities in prices across our regions. South Australians are consistently paying some of the highest prices for electricity, despite having modest consumption. Despite consuming 67% more electricity, people in Hobart pay just 4% more per year than those in Adelaide," Energyse founder Louis Fredheim said.

Complete Analysis Results: https://energyse.com.au/research/electr ... s-apr-2024

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Re: News & Discussion: Electricity Infrastructure

#1564 Post by SouthAussie94 » Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:32 am

Algernon wrote:
Fri Apr 05, 2024 5:15 pm
Stages 1A and 1B are the "boring" bits of the project for me. But at 400MW, the nameplate capacity is already 1/3 larger than the current largest wind farm!

I'm more excited for the next stages and champing at the bit for that 900MW/1800MWh battery. Absolute game changer.
1A and 1B are far from boring if you've seen the terrain in that part of the world. Serious amounts of dirt are being moved to make it happen. The next few stages of Goyder South are further to the East where there terrain is a bit flatter.

Goyder North will be similar terrain to 1A and 1B
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Re: News & Discussion: Electricity Infrastructure

#1565 Post by abc » Tue Apr 09, 2024 11:36 am

Ho Really wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:27 am
Adelaide Is Capital City With Most Expensive Electricity, Finds New Study
Announcement posted by Supplemento 08 Apr 2024

Analysis of 7,612 residential electricity plans on the NEM in Australia in April 2024 reveals that Adelaide is the capital city with the most expensive electricity, at a real cost of 47.1 cents per kWh

BRISBANE, AUSTRALIA - 8 APRIL 2024: Adelaide is the capital city with the most expensive electricity, according to a new study by Energyse.

The analysis also found that households in Hobart spend the most on electricity (due to their large consumption), with a typical annual bill of $2,466 for a 2 person household.

Complete Results: https://energyse.com.au/research/electr ... s-apr-2024

This analysis involved Energyse analysing 7,612 residential electricity plans on offer on the National Electricity Market (NEM) in Australia in April 2024. Factors such as daily supply charges, usage rates, solar feed in tariffs and disconnection fees were analysed.

Most expensive capital city: Adelaide is the capital city with the most expensive electricity, with electricity costing 47.1 c/kWh for a typical 2 person household once daily usage charges are factored in.

Highest electricity rates: South Australia has the highest electricity rates on the NEM, at over 40 c/kWh for single use rate plans. This is 49% higher than the average of the rest of the NEM.

Highest daily supply charges: Regional NSW (on the Essential Energy network) has the highest daily supply charges, at an average of 152 cents per day. This is 61% higher than the average of the rest of the NEM.

City with highest spend: Households in Hobart spend the most on electricity (average of $2,466 per year for a 2 person household), though this is due to their large consumption (67% greater than the average of the other capital cities on the NEM).

Highest peak electricity rates: Adelaide is the capital city with the highest average peak electricity rates, at 47.3 c/kWh.

Highest solar feed in tariffs (region): Regional Queensland (excluding SEQ) has the highest average solar feed in tariff rates, at 13.4 c/kWh.

Lowest solar feed in tariffs (region): Victoria has the lowest average solar feed in tariffs on the NEM, at an average of 5.1 c/kWh, and a maximum of 9.9 c/kWh.

Highest solar feed in tariffs (capital city): Hobart is the capital city with the highest average solar feed in tariff rates, at 10.9 c/kWh.

Lowest off peak electricity rates: Tasmania has the lowest off peak electricity rates, at just 15.8 c/kWh.

Highest disconnection fees: Canberra is the capital city with the highest average disconnection fees, at $43.84.

"Whilst all across Australia we have seen substantial increases in residential electricity prices over the last few years, there are still significant disparities in prices across our regions. South Australians are consistently paying some of the highest prices for electricity, despite having modest consumption. Despite consuming 67% more electricity, people in Hobart pay just 4% more per year than those in Adelaide," Energyse founder Louis Fredheim said.

Complete Analysis Results: https://energyse.com.au/research/electr ... s-apr-2024

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#1566 Post by PeFe » Tue Apr 09, 2024 12:17 pm

abc wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2024 11:36 am
Ho Really wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:27 am
Adelaide Is Capital City With Most Expensive Electricity, Finds New Study
Announcement posted by Supplemento 08 Apr 2024

Analysis of 7,612 residential electricity plans on the NEM in Australia in April 2024 reveals that Adelaide is the capital city with the most expensive electricity, at a real cost of 47.1 cents per kWh

BRISBANE, AUSTRALIA - 8 APRIL 2024: Adelaide is the capital city with the most expensive electricity, according to a new study by Energyse.

The analysis also found that households in Hobart spend the most on electricity (due to their large consumption), with a typical annual bill of $2,466 for a 2 person household.

Complete Results: https://energyse.com.au/research/electr ... s-apr-2024

This analysis involved Energyse analysing 7,612 residential electricity plans on offer on the National Electricity Market (NEM) in Australia in April 2024. Factors such as daily supply charges, usage rates, solar feed in tariffs and disconnection fees were analysed.

Most expensive capital city: Adelaide is the capital city with the most expensive electricity, with electricity costing 47.1 c/kWh for a typical 2 person household once daily usage charges are factored in.

Highest electricity rates: South Australia has the highest electricity rates on the NEM, at over 40 c/kWh for single use rate plans. This is 49% higher than the average of the rest of the NEM.

Highest daily supply charges: Regional NSW (on the Essential Energy network) has the highest daily supply charges, at an average of 152 cents per day. This is 61% higher than the average of the rest of the NEM.

City with highest spend: Households in Hobart spend the most on electricity (average of $2,466 per year for a 2 person household), though this is due to their large consumption (67% greater than the average of the other capital cities on the NEM).

Highest peak electricity rates: Adelaide is the capital city with the highest average peak electricity rates, at 47.3 c/kWh.

Highest solar feed in tariffs (region): Regional Queensland (excluding SEQ) has the highest average solar feed in tariff rates, at 13.4 c/kWh.

Lowest solar feed in tariffs (region): Victoria has the lowest average solar feed in tariffs on the NEM, at an average of 5.1 c/kWh, and a maximum of 9.9 c/kWh.

Highest solar feed in tariffs (capital city): Hobart is the capital city with the highest average solar feed in tariff rates, at 10.9 c/kWh.

Lowest off peak electricity rates: Tasmania has the lowest off peak electricity rates, at just 15.8 c/kWh.

Highest disconnection fees: Canberra is the capital city with the highest average disconnection fees, at $43.84.

"Whilst all across Australia we have seen substantial increases in residential electricity prices over the last few years, there are still significant disparities in prices across our regions. South Australians are consistently paying some of the highest prices for electricity, despite having modest consumption. Despite consuming 67% more electricity, people in Hobart pay just 4% more per year than those in Adelaide," Energyse founder Louis Fredheim said.

Complete Analysis Results: https://energyse.com.au/research/electr ... s-apr-2024

About Energyse
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And where do the high prices start?.....they start with the price of gas
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Re: News & Discussion: Electricity Infrastructure

#1567 Post by abc » Tue Apr 09, 2024 12:31 pm

PeFe wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2024 12:17 pm
abc wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2024 11:36 am
Ho Really wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:27 am


Cheers
hate to say I told you so
And where do the high prices start?.....they start with the price of gas

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you do realise wind farm tech increases the reliance on gas compared to coal fired tech

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#1568 Post by bits » Tue Apr 09, 2024 12:42 pm

South Australia also has always had some of the highest prices due to gas and size of network vs consumers.
2009 is when wind start to account for 10% of generation.
2011 wind is 20%.
2016 is when the last coal plant in SA is retured.

https://www.aer.gov.au/industry/registe ... es-regions


Also see report:
https://www.aemo.com.au/-/media/Files/E ... ctions.pdf
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#1569 Post by Algernon » Tue Apr 09, 2024 3:48 pm

PeFe wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2024 12:17 pm
abc wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2024 11:36 am
Ho Really wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:27 am


Cheers
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And where do the high prices start?.....they start with the price of gas

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But I thought the invasion of Ukraine and sanctions on Russian gas lead to a rise in the price of the wind blowing

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#1570 Post by mattblack » Tue Apr 16, 2024 1:03 pm

Engineering contracts signed for Australia’s biggest concentrated solar plant

Apr 15, 2024

Australian renewable energy and storage company Vast Renewables has signed key engineering contracts for the development of its 30MW/288MWh VS1 concentrated solar power (CSP) plant in Port Augusta, South Australia, which will be by far the biggest to be built in Australia.

Vast last week announced the beginning of negotiations to gain access to transmission lines, and has followed it up this week with details of key engineering contracts to complete front end engineering design on its VS1 project.

As part of the larger Aurora Energy Project – which also incorporates a grid-scale pilot of 1414 Degrees’ latent heat battery technology, SiBox – VS1 will utilise Vast’s modular CSP tower to deliver long durations storage.

Front end engineering design for the 30MW/288MWh CSP plant will be undertaken by local engineering and project services companies Afry, FYFE, Primero, and Worley, and is expected to be completed by August ahead of a final investment decision in the third quarter, and potential start of construction by the end of the year.

“This is a major step forward for Vast and VS1, putting this historic CSP project on the path to construction,” said Craig Wood, CEO of Vast.

“Afry, FYFE, Primero, and Worley will bring the right combination of global and local expertise to VS1, which will utilise our industry-leading technology to capture and store the sun’s energy during the day before generating heat and dispatchable power during the day or night.”

In addition to 1414 Degrees SiBox pilot, VS1 will also be co-located with a green methanol demonstration plant called Solar Methanol 1 (SM1).

https://reneweconomy.com.au/engineering ... lar-plant/

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#1571 Post by abc » Tue Apr 16, 2024 1:48 pm

I was driving up South Road past the Happy Valley reservoir this afternoon and noticed they'd chopped down a whole plantation forest which has been there since I was born and replaced it with solar panels

so much for 'green energy' :roll:

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#1572 Post by SBD » Tue Apr 16, 2024 2:33 pm

abc wrote:
Tue Apr 16, 2024 1:48 pm
I was driving up South Road past the Happy Valley reservoir this afternoon and noticed they'd chopped down a whole plantation forest which has been there since I was born and replaced it with solar panels

so much for 'green energy' :roll:
From what I recall, it was always regarded as a commercial pine plantation. I can't access The Advertiser's beat up but SA Water has a few pages about it too, including:

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#1573 Post by Nort » Tue Apr 16, 2024 3:48 pm

Pfft SBD coming in here with facts and research.

(Thanks for linking that stuff, :lol: at abc showing his ass again)

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#1574 Post by abc » Tue Apr 16, 2024 3:55 pm

SBD wrote:
Tue Apr 16, 2024 2:33 pm
abc wrote:
Tue Apr 16, 2024 1:48 pm
I was driving up South Road past the Happy Valley reservoir this afternoon and noticed they'd chopped down a whole plantation forest which has been there since I was born and replaced it with solar panels

so much for 'green energy' :roll:
From what I recall, it was always regarded as a commercial pine plantation. I can't access The Advertiser's beat up but SA Water has a few pages about it too, including:
I said plantation

they're still trees aren't they? yes or no?

do you need a science lesson?

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#1575 Post by Nort » Tue Apr 16, 2024 4:22 pm

abc wrote:
Tue Apr 16, 2024 3:55 pm
SBD wrote:
Tue Apr 16, 2024 2:33 pm
abc wrote:
Tue Apr 16, 2024 1:48 pm
I was driving up South Road past the Happy Valley reservoir this afternoon and noticed they'd chopped down a whole plantation forest which has been there since I was born and replaced it with solar panels

so much for 'green energy' :roll:
From what I recall, it was always regarded as a commercial pine plantation. I can't access The Advertiser's beat up but SA Water has a few pages about it too, including:
I said plantation

they're still trees aren't they? yes or no?

do you need a science lesson?
Are you under the impression that the reason the pine plantation was cut down was to make room for the solar panels?

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