News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

[rev]

I'm impressed!

I didn't think our market warranted another flight to the middle east - i hope they stick!

Given Qatar airways next move to entice the Adelaide market, I wonder if Emirates will think about setting up their own lounge past passport control? Or upgrading to A380 daily? Very interesting summer coming... also well done Adelaide!

Most people will be using the Qatar flights as a stop over to Europe like they do with Emirates and Singapore.

[Ben]

It's been in the media, they've had quite a few issues.
I think some airlines have even reduced their orders.

I take it has nothing to do with the media sensationalising aircraft mechanical safety to boost their "hits" and scare people.

[Patrick_27]

It's been in the media, they've had quite a few issues.
I think some airlines have even reduced their orders.

I take it has nothing to do with the media sensationalising aircraft mechanical safety to boost their "hits" and scare people.

I know people in aviation who have stated what I said earlier. Qantas themselves significantly decreased their order, one of the two reasons was their dissatisfaction with the aircraft. I find the media's sensationalisation of aircraft safety is more targeted at the airlines themselves and cost cutting in the maintenance side of things.

[rubberman]

It's been in the media, they've had quite a few issues.
I think some airlines have even reduced their orders.

I take it has nothing to do with the media sensationalising aircraft mechanical safety to boost their "hits" and scare people.

I know people in aviation who have stated what I said earlier. Qantas themselves significantly decreased their order, one of the two reasons was their dissatisfaction with the aircraft. I find the media's sensationalisation of aircraft safety is more targeted at the airlines themselves and cost cutting in the maintenance side of things.

Qantas reduced their orders because they were imploding to Qantas Sydney and Melbourne Airways. With nobody feeding to Singapore via Qantas metal from Adelaide, Perth and Brisbane, and Emirates getting free access to those cities, Qantas had no need for bigger aircraft.

I'd be interested though if you have any reputable links to decent statistics about Airbus A380 despatch reliability.

The A380 is a superior aircraft to fly in as a passenger in my experience. (I've travelled to Europe and back 3 long sectors per year for the past 8 years and have travelled roughly equal numbers of sectors B777, B747 and A380). It is far better than the 747.

[Julious91]

I'm impressed!

I didn't think our market warranted another flight to the middle east - i hope they stick!

Given Qatar airways next move to entice the Adelaide market, I wonder if Emirates will think about setting up their own lounge past passport control? Or upgrading to A380 daily? Very interesting summer coming... also well done Adelaide!

Don't count on Emirates putting an A380 into Adelaide now. Qatar starting here has pretty much killed that plan. Plus the airport needs a huge infrastructure upgrade for that as well e.g make some bays duel aerobridges.

They airport is currently doing some apron works down by REX/ Virgin end of the terminal where there appears to be some tarmac works happening. most probably some layover bays for REX

Emirates throwing an a380 our way seems a bit brash, but I know thats how they operate - going big and all.

What is the likelyhood now of AAL developing a lounge past Passport Control for all these airlines? Will QANTAS do a business class lounge and let Emirates in as well as OneWorld alliance members (Malaysia, Qatar, Cathay) or Do you think a OneWorld lounge would stand alone given Qantas' non presence here in Adelaide.

[Norman]

The international part of the airport is due to be redeveloped in the next few years anyway. Hopefully this will include an increase to the customs area and one or two more lounges. Only Singapore Airlines has one at the moment.

[Patrick_27]

The international part of the airport is due to be redeveloped in the next few years anyway. Hopefully this will include an increase to the customs area and one or two more lounges. Only Singapore Airlines has one at the moment.

They need to revise this part of the proposed redevelopment. The current international terminal existing as a temporary measure can't last if they're to further increase the services. I'd suggest either completely reconfiguring half of the current terminal and shifting one of the main airlines into the extended terminal area, or relocate the international terminal into one of the new terminal wings to be built north of the current terminal.

[crawf]

From the Adelaide Airport Masterplan
http://www.adelaideairport.com.au/corpo ... Chap06.pdf

Scheduled Activities: 2014-2019
• hotel development
• demolition of former international terminal building and
integration of regional aviation services within Terminal 1
• construction of new northern regional apron
• relocation of terminal offices to adjoining and linked
new premises where practical
• provision of expanded and common user self
check-in facilities
• dedicated taxi drop off point north of plaza
• expansion of emigration and immigration areas (phase 1)
• expansion of international baggage claim (phase 1)
• expansion of international arrivals hall (phase 1)
• expansion of main security check point
• expansion of northern pier and additional apron
parking north
• expansion of retail area and development of new
airline lounges at an expanded third level
• construction of general aviation facility (phase 1)
• relocation of existing general aviation facilities.

Scheduled Activities: 2020-2034
• extension of multi-level car park and car rental facilities
by 2000 spaces, and taxi drop-off activities
• expansion of domestic baggage claim/arrivals hall (phase 1)
• expansion of international baggage claim (phase 2)
• expansion of international arrivals hall (phase 2)
• expansion of southern pier and apron parking (phase 2)
• additional international gates; including allowances to suit
Airbus A380 arrivals and departures and associated lounges
• expansion of baggage make-up (phase 2)
• further expansion of southern pier and apron parking
• expansion of general aviation facilities (phase 2).

[Ho Really]

From the Adelaide Airport Masterplan
http://www.adelaideairport.com.au/corpo ... Chap06.pdf

Scheduled Activities: 2020-2034
• additional international gates; including allowances to suit
Airbus A380 arrivals and departures and associated lounges

Adelaide may never see a regular A380 service...so I agree on the time frame proposed. However I would love to be proven wrong.

Cheers

[Ho Really]

Tigerair made some announcements today. The one that interests us the most are additional flights between Sydney and Adelaide. They'll start from December 8 on a brand new A320.

Cheers

[Brucetiki]

From the Adelaide Airport Masterplan
http://www.adelaideairport.com.au/corpo ... Chap06.pdf

Scheduled Activities: 2014-2019
• hotel development
• demolition of former international terminal building and
integration of regional aviation services within Terminal 1

Be interesting to see Rex's reaction to this, given they pretty much are actively against any integration of their services within T1.

[monotonehell]

Be interesting to see Rex's reaction to this, given they pretty much are actively against any integration of their services within T1.

Is there a reason for this?

[Brucetiki]

Be interesting to see Rex's reaction to this, given they pretty much are actively against any integration of their services within T1.

Is there a reason for this?

They don't want any inbound luggage to go through security screening (their planes are under the requirements that require security so inbound luggage arrives unscreened). They're pretty much against going through security at any of their airports (they have an active campaign against Dubbo airport because they installed security to accomodate Qantaslink Q400's).

Same happens with Qantaslink now they've downgraded SA services to Q300's, but they have no issue with using the main terminal for arrivals (passengers go via a front tunnel and go straight to the carousels via the old Air Asia check-in area)

[monotonehell]

Be interesting to see Rex's reaction to this, given they pretty much are actively against any integration of their services within T1.

Is there a reason for this?

They don't want any inbound luggage to go through security screening (their planes are under the requirements that require security so inbound luggage arrives unscreened). They're pretty much against going through security at any of their airports (they have an active campaign against Dubbo airport because they installed security to accommodate Qantaslink Q400's).

Same happens with Qantaslink now they've downgraded SA services to Q300's, but they have no issue with using the main terminal for arrivals (passengers go via a front tunnel and go straight to the carousels via the old Air Asia check-in area)

Interesting. But begs the question... What is their a reason for this?

[ChillyPhilly]

Lots of solar panels to go on the terminal roof. Largest such arrangement in the nation.