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[SWP] Re: 399 King William Street | 48m | 15lvls | Apartments

Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 11:56 pm
by Nort
A potential 24 storey proposal for this site being generated:

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Based on the King William hint, the trees and relative scale of the other buildings I guessed that this was for the 399 King William site.

Interestingly enough: http://www.realcommercial.com.au/proper ... -502104786

Site is now listed as being under contract with the listing last updated late June.

Would some some nice extra filler down that end of the city, guess it would be around 72m.

[SWP] Re: 399 King William Street | 48m | 15lvls | Apartments

Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:24 am
by Algernon
I'm just impressed that they drop the f-bomb when announcing a project :shock:

The width of the building certainly fits the lot on 399

Sexy af

[SWP] Re: 399 King William Street | 48m | 15lvls | Apartments

Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:14 am
by Waewick
That seems like a troll. Who says Fucken?

[SWP] Re: 399 King William Street | 48m | 15lvls | Apartments

Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 8:59 am
by Ben
A few things don't seem right here.

1. the language
2. they are showing off plans before they have been sent in for approval which is very rare as it shows competition what you are up to
3. the buildings in the render do not exist in Adelaide - could be there to throw people off the location but they have already divulged that.
4. the design is actually quite amazing and not something I can see being built here in the near future :(

Hoping it is real and a DA is lodged soon.

[SWP] Re: 399 King William Street | 48m | 15lvls | Apartments

Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:44 am
by Nort
Ben wrote:A few things don't seem right here.

1. the language
2. they are showing off plans before they have been sent in for approval which is very rare as it shows competition what you are up to
3. the buildings in the render do not exist in Adelaide - could be there to throw people off the location but they have already divulged that.
4. the design is actually quite amazing and not something I can see being built here in the near future :(

Hoping it is real and a DA is lodged soon.
It's a small firm and on the status they have said it's an early sketch. Looking through more of what the firm has done it seems like a big jump from their previous work so I'm now a bit more hesitant. Wonder if it's a situation where someone is hoping to get approval for a decent sized building on the land to increase its value and flip it.

[SWP] Re: 399 King William Street | 48m | 15lvls | Apartments

Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:33 pm
by rev
Ben wrote:A few things don't seem right here.

1. the language
2. they are showing off plans before they have been sent in for approval which is very rare as it shows competition what you are up to
3. the buildings in the render do not exist in Adelaide - could be there to throw people off the location but they have already divulged that.
4. the design is actually quite amazing and not something I can see being built here in the near future :(

Hoping it is real and a DA is lodged soon.
That design looks hands down, 1,000,000% better then most of the garbage that gets proposed and/or built in this city.
So if they are "showing their hand" to the competition, GOOD. Maybe it will inspire the "competition" to come up with better, and developers/clients to demand better results.

[SWP] Re: 399 King William Street | 48m | 15lvls | Apartments

Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 5:35 pm
by mgb
Ok, as an exercise is this even remotely possible give then constraints of the location? The previous proposed development of a residential development wasn't great, with some very small appartments.

This time it looks commercial rather than residential. The site is what only 8-9m wide on the King William St frontage? Given all the building code requirements, escape stair/lift well sizing, transformer room etc etc does it even leave any possibility of a floor plan that may work and be saleable/leasable?

I guess the reason I am asking is I think this site is quite typical of many locations in the CBD. Great location, but a small site. Without combining with adjacent properties (sometimes not possible given heritage considerations) then are these land holdings ever capable of being utilised or the best we can hope for is open air carparks/existing low rise usage.

[SWP] Re: 399 King William Street | 48m | 15lvls | Apartments

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 5:18 pm
by timtam20292
This site has now been sold.

[SWP] Re: 399 King William Street | 48m | 15lvls | Apartments

Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2017 8:20 am
by Mpol03
So the above proposal is no longer on the table?

I hope to see something of that nature go up. The city needs more designs like this to help bring our skyline into the 21st century.

[SWP] Re: 399 King William Street | 48m | 15lvls | Apartments

Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2017 11:11 am
by Brando
Mpol03 wrote:
Sat Sep 02, 2017 8:20 am
So the above proposal is no longer on the table?

I hope to see something of that nature go up. The city needs more designs like this to help bring our skyline into the 21st century.
The above was never submitted as a serious proposal.

Agree, we need more curves in this city.

[SWP] Re: 399 King William Street | 48m | 15lvls | Apartments

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 8:14 am
by Ben
Application lodged for this site. Not much detail at the moment. I hate how the DAC always write "multi story". Is that 2 levels or 30. Its a bloody big difference!

Development No: 020/A018/18
Description: Construction of a multi-storey, mixed use building incorporating residential, office and retail uses, and a basement car park.
Lodged: 22/02/2018
Application Type: SCAP- Adelaide ($10m)
Council: City of Adelaide
Address: 399 King William Street, Adelaide

[SWP] Re: 399 King William Street | 48m | 15lvls | Apartments

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:27 pm
by Spurdo
Hey Ben, I don't mean to sound like a total newbie, but where do you find these applications? I have tried looking all over the SCAP website but I just can't seem to find anything.

[SWP] Re: 399 King William Street | 48m | 15lvls | Apartments

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:32 pm
by HiTouch

[SWP] Re: 399 King William Street | 48m | 15lvls | Apartments

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:41 pm
by timtam20292
HiTouch wrote:
Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:32 pm
www.dac.sa.gov.au
Not working.

[SWP] Re: 399 King William Street | 48m | 15lvls | Apartments

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:42 pm
by Ben