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[APP] Re: 1-25 South Esplanade, Glenelg | 46m | 13 Levels | Apartments

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 7:25 pm
by Jaymz
I'm normally pro-development, but I actually think this is a good decision. Planning laws for that area currently allow buildings up to 5 levels, this was to be 13.

To build a wall along the seafront for the wealthy would really be a case of money over people.

[APP] Re: 1-25 South Esplanade, Glenelg | 46m | 13 Levels | Apartments

Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2021 2:24 pm
by TorrensSA
The building was a bit bulky. Was the development proposed in the 5 story or 12 story zone? or was it overlapping like the developer said
The 12 story zone seems to end (or used to) at the laneway at the end of Saltram Road, which makes little sense, the 12 story zone should end at the suburb boundary at Pier Street.
Glenelg is a special location, South Esplanade between Moseley Square and Pier Street should be zoned 12 stories. Hopefully the developer comes back with a less bulky design, there's no reason why this section of South Esplanade should be 5 stories. If the NIMBY's don't like it they should move to Glenelg South

[APP] Re: 1-25 South Esplanade, Glenelg | 46m | 13 Levels | Apartments

Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2021 5:38 pm
by [Shuz]
Bad call. This was an entirely appropriate development given the existing highrisecontext of the area along the foreshore. A more inappropriate development is that 14 storey building in Glenelg North just down the road from the Watermark Hotel, there's literally one high-rise on that road and it's surrounded by 2 storey town houses.

[APP] Re: 1-25 South Esplanade, Glenelg | 46m | 13 Levels | Apartments

Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:04 am
by Ozbear73
Walking the dogs at Glenelg today, noticed the site is now surrounded by construction fencing…does anyone know a status for this one? Is demolition imminent?

[APP] Re: 1-25 South Esplanade, Glenelg | 46m | 13 Levels | Apartments

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 12:54 pm
by Norman
Very unlikely. The development application was rejected, and the builder would not be able to demolish unless a development has been approved.

[APP] Re: 1-25 South Esplanade, Glenelg | 46m | 13 Levels | Apartments

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2021 5:10 pm
by TorrensSA
Anyone got any information on this? Or a subscription and can post the article?https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/sou ... f036d3e704

[APP] Re: 1-25 South Esplanade, Glenelg | 46m | 13 Levels | Apartments

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2022 2:23 pm
by Will
article about this in the Advertiser today.

behind a paywall if anyone can help out.

[APP] Re: 1-25 South Esplanade, Glenelg | 46m | 13 Levels | Apartments

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2022 10:57 pm
by SRW
Will wrote:
Wed Apr 06, 2022 2:23 pm
article about this in the Advertiser today.

behind a paywall if anyone can help out.
Curious what that article has to say as they've started demolition?!
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[APP] Re: 1-25 South Esplanade, Glenelg | 46m | 13 Levels | Apartments

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 1:10 am
by Mpol02
Yeah really confused what is happening here on this day

[APP] Re: 1-25 South Esplanade, Glenelg | 46m | 13 Levels | Apartments

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2022 5:13 pm
by ghs
According to the article, the developer can demolish the existing building without approval.
Some of the residents nearby have complained that they were never informed that demolition
was going to occur.

The developer is now hoping to get approval for a 10 level building.

[APP] Re: 1-25 South Esplanade, Glenelg | 46m | 13 Levels | Apartments

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2022 5:47 pm
by rev
Who gives a shit what nearby residents think. Seriously, what the hell is wrong with this state?

If you care so much about a building, go fucking buy it so someone else can't demolish and redevelop the block. That fucking simple.

You don't own it? Then it's none of your business.
God damn South Australians, we are the biggest hinderance to our own growth and prosperity then anything else.

[APP] Re: 1-25 South Esplanade, Glenelg | 46m | 13 Levels | Apartments

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2022 10:39 pm
by Norman
ghs wrote:
Wed Apr 13, 2022 6:06 pm
You are right rev, the NIMBY attitude in this state would have deterred a lot of developers
from investing here.

It’s a huge risk to buy a block of land when there’s a fair chance that
a development proposal will be rejected.

What does the developer do if they don’t get approval for a 10 level building?
Propose a building that meets the existing development policies, which is 5 storeys. It needs to go before a panel because it is almost 3 times the allowed height.

Now, if you don't agree with the existing policies that apply to that address then maybe that policy needs to be changed. But you can't just completely ignore existing policies that have been negotiated between the state government, local government and the residents. Otherwise we might as well not have a planning system at all if we let anyone just build whatever they want in whatever location they choose.

[APP] Re: 1-25 South Esplanade, Glenelg | 46m | 13 Levels | Apartments

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:59 am
by TorrensSA
The zoning is stupid here though. The 12 story zone should end at the suburb boundry, which is Pier Street not the little lane.

All of South Esplanade Glenelg should be in the higher zone. It's really odd and they have excluded this small section.

[APP] Re: 1-25 South Esplanade, Glenelg | 46m | 13 Levels | Apartments

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 1:23 pm
by [Shuz]
There are a lot of zoning oddities in SA's planning system, and I agree, this is one of them.

[APP] Re: 1-25 South Esplanade, Glenelg | 46m | 13 Levels | Apartments

Posted: Mon May 09, 2022 1:55 pm
by Ozbear73
Walking the dogs this arvo and have observed demo of the southern part of the old apartment complex is complete