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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Buses
Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2019 6:01 am
by 1NEEDS2POST
While they're at it, paint bus lanes. It's cheap and it makes buses much faster. There is no need for light rail if they do this.
Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Buses
Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2019 7:19 am
by ml69
1NEEDS2POST wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 6:01 am
While they're at it, paint bus lanes. It's cheap and it makes buses much faster. There is no need for light rail if they do this.
I’d support bus lanes from the National Wine Centre to the Magill/Portrush Rd intersection (perfect time to do it when they widen the intersection over the next few years).
This is a very busy bus route with great frequency (5 min frequency in peak) but is slowed down by the volume of traffic. I live near Burnside Village but choose to catch a bus on Magill Rd into the city because the frequency means I can just turn up and go with minimal waiting. It’s faster and more reliable than catching a bus on Greenhill Rd when waiting time is included.
Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Buses
Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2019 12:56 pm
by TrebleSketch
ml69 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 7:19 am
1NEEDS2POST wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 6:01 am
While they're at it, paint bus lanes. It's cheap and it makes buses much faster. There is no need for light rail if they do this.
I’d support bus lanes from the National Wine Centre to the Magill/Portrush Rd intersection (perfect time to do it when they widen the intersection over the next few years).
This is a very busy bus route with great frequency (5 min frequency in peak) but is slowed down by the volume of traffic. I live near Burnside Village but choose to catch a bus on Magill Rd into the city because the frequency means I can just turn up and go with minimal waiting. It’s faster and more reliable than catching a bus on Greenhill Rd when waiting time is included.
This would be nice! Though I do think about how will they be able to put in an additional lane between NWC and North Tce/Payneham Rd/Magill Rd/Fullarton Rd? It would be definitely nice to add a bus lane along that section!
Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Buses
Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2019 3:33 pm
by Eurostar
TrebleSketch wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 12:56 pm
ml69 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 7:19 am
1NEEDS2POST wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 6:01 am
While they're at it, paint bus lanes. It's cheap and it makes buses much faster. There is no need for light rail if they do this.
I’d support bus lanes from the National Wine Centre to the Magill/Portrush Rd intersection (perfect time to do it when they widen the intersection over the next few years).
This is a very busy bus route with great frequency (5 min frequency in peak) but is slowed down by the volume of traffic. I live near Burnside Village but choose to catch a bus on Magill Rd into the city because the frequency means I can just turn up and go with minimal waiting. It’s faster and more reliable than catching a bus on Greenhill Rd when waiting time is included.
This would be nice! Though I do think about how will they be able to put in an additional lane between NWC and North Tce/Payneham Rd/Magill Rd/Fullarton Rd? It would be definitely nice to add a bus lane along that section!
The North Terrace (Kent Town) could be changed so in morning peak its bus lane, all vehicles lane, all vehicles lane in citybound direction and all vehicles lane in outbound direction. During interpeak it could be as it is now. Afternoon peak it switches to bus lane, all vehicles lane car lane outbound and all vehicles lane citybound.
Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Buses
Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 1:16 am
by ml69
Eurostar wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 3:33 pm
TrebleSketch wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 12:56 pm
ml69 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 7:19 am
I’d support bus lanes from the National Wine Centre to the Magill/Portrush Rd intersection (perfect time to do it when they widen the intersection over the next few years).
This is a very busy bus route with great frequency (5 min frequency in peak) but is slowed down by the volume of traffic. I live near Burnside Village but choose to catch a bus on Magill Rd into the city because the frequency means I can just turn up and go with minimal waiting. It’s faster and more reliable than catching a bus on Greenhill Rd when waiting time is included.
This would be nice! Though I do think about how will they be able to put in an additional lane between NWC and North Tce/Payneham Rd/Magill Rd/Fullarton Rd? It would be definitely nice to add a bus lane along that section!
The North Terrace (Kent Town) could be changed so in morning peak its bus lane, all vehicles lane, all vehicles lane in citybound direction and all vehicles lane in outbound direction. During interpeak it could be as it is now. Afternoon peak it switches to bus lane, all vehicles lane car lane outbound and all vehicles lane citybound.
Very good suggestion, but what about right-turning traffic? Eg cars travelling citybound, but turning right into St Peters College in the morning?
Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Buses
Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 8:53 am
by Eurostar
ml69 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 1:16 am
Eurostar wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 3:33 pm
TrebleSketch wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 12:56 pm
This would be nice! Though I do think about how will they be able to put in an additional lane between NWC and North Tce/Payneham Rd/Magill Rd/Fullarton Rd? It would be definitely nice to add a bus lane along that section!
The North Terrace (Kent Town) could be changed so in morning peak its bus lane, all vehicles lane, all vehicles lane in citybound direction and all vehicles lane in outbound direction. During interpeak it could be as it is now. Afternoon peak it switches to bus lane, all vehicles lane car lane outbound and all vehicles lane citybound.
Very good suggestion, but what about right-turning traffic? Eg cars travelling citybound, but turning right into St Peters College in the morning?
Ideally all right turns on this section should be banned during morning and afternoon peak as it just stuffs up traffic flow
Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Buses
Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2019 12:15 am
by Eurostar
All we've seen under Liberals is cuts to bus services and proposals to cut bus stops. I actually recall SA Labor were doing so well increasing patronage that they had to lease buses from interstate to keep up with demand. Whilst interest rates are low the current government should replace those buses from the 90s, invest in bus lanes/priority, invest in our bus network I.e. Virginia is growing and could do with a local loop service and more 900s, include the Barossa in the Adelaide Metro ticketing system, also areas like Woodside and Lobethal could do with increase of the 834 services.
Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Buses
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:47 pm
by I Follow PAFC
On-Demand Bus Services.
On-Demand bus services operate in Gawler, and are on trial in Mt Barker and the Barossa Valley.
https://adelaidemetro.com.au/Timetables ... s-Services
Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Buses
Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 10:10 pm
by Eurostar
I feel the Metroticket/Metrocard should be expanded into rural areas close to Adelaide I.e Victor Harbor and Barossa.
A route let's call it 1700 from Adelaide to Victor Harbor via Southern Expressway and Victor Harbor Road, the above route on a regular basis (hourly maximum wait) could prove popular especially during the summer and reduce congestion on the Victor Harbor Road
Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Buses
Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2020 2:25 pm
by [Shuz]
Yeah I think the private operators who have a monopoly on that service, with their price gouging and shit service and service agreement/contract with the government will have a big massive whinge and call in the lawyers about something like that.
Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Buses
Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2020 11:24 pm
by NTRabbit
Eurostar wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 12:15 am
All we've seen under Liberals is cuts to bus services and proposals to cut bus stops. I actually recall SA Labor were doing so well increasing patronage that they had to lease buses from interstate to keep up with demand. Whilst interest rates are low the current government should replace those buses from the 90s, invest in bus lanes/priority, invest in our bus network I.e. Virginia is growing and could do with a local loop service and more 900s, include the Barossa in the Adelaide Metro ticketing system, also areas like Woodside and Lobethal could do with increase of the 834 services.
Agree with this, except I think they should work on replacing the buses from the 80s before moving on to replace the buses from the 90s. One of these days my 80s era G20/G21/G22x is going to blow up while crawling up Flagstaff Rd at 5km/h and it's going to ruin my evening.
Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Buses
Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2020 9:40 am
by PD2/20
NTRabbit wrote: ↑Sun Feb 02, 2020 11:24 pm
Eurostar wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 12:15 am
All we've seen under Liberals is cuts to bus services and proposals to cut bus stops. I actually recall SA Labor were doing so well increasing patronage that they had to lease buses from interstate to keep up with demand. Whilst interest rates are low the current government should replace those buses from the 90s, invest in bus lanes/priority, invest in our bus network I.e. Virginia is growing and could do with a local loop service and more 900s, include the Barossa in the Adelaide Metro ticketing system, also areas like Woodside and Lobethal could do with increase of the 834 services.
Agree with this, except I think they should work on replacing the buses from the 80s before moving on to replace the buses from the 90s. One of these days my 80s era G20/G21/G22x is going to blow up while crawling up Flagstaff Rd at 5km/h and it's going to ruin my evening.
For quite a few years AdMet/DPTI have been retiring buses when they reach 25 years of service. The oldest buses in the fleet entered service in 1995 and will retired this year.
Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Buses
Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2020 9:41 am
by Norman
There are no more buses from the 80s... They should not be on the road more than 25 years, making the oldest bus from 1995. All buses are now air-conditioned and 98% are wheelchair accessible.
Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Buses
Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:57 am
by Spotto
Priority should definitely be retiring the last few buses that aren’t wheelchair accessible. But even for fully-abled people those stairs at the front doors are extremely narrow and the manually-operated rear doors are getting harder to open. And they’re so slow up hills.
Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Buses
Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2020 1:28 pm
by rubberman
Also, while we're at it, may I put my hand up for modern fast loading 3 door buses.
We had 3 door loading in the days of bus conductors, and European (outside the UK) practice is pretty much 100% low floor, 3 door loading for non-artics, and up to 5 doors for artics.
These modern buses load and unload fast. That not only speeds up the trip, but reduces the number of actual stopping places required in the CBD.