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Looks like this is meant to be next to the station?gnrc_louis wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 12:12 amDon’t think this one has been posted here yet: https://studionine.net.au/projects/otel ... evelopment
The application indicates a very disappointing 1 retail tenancy, making a mockery of the original intent of Third Street as a mixed-use main street:Nathan wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:25 pmHearing chatter that the Sentinel development, the build-to-rent project on the lot bounded by Third St, Gibson St, Second St and Station Place, will significantly underdeliver on promised retail space. Despite having a requirement under the urban design guidelines, I've heard there'll only be a small number of retail tenancies along Third St, and the numbers made up with commercial space (which will be taken by Sentinel management).
Any compromise from RenewalSA on this project will be a massive failure. Residents have been patient for nearly ten years for RenewalSA to deliver on a local retail precinct, or "Main Street". The hospitality options are great, but we still don't have any of the general day to day retail, which means residents need to drive to surrounding areas to do daily tasks. The location of the Sentinel development, connecting the town square Plant 3 & 4, and Bowden East to the train station, tram terminus, greenway, and the Port Rd precinct, means this building should be the focal point of the retail area, with shops lining Third St, Gibson St, and Station Pl at a minimum.
The only retail spaces to date, that aren't a part of Plant 3/4, are a small handful of spaces within 354 — most of which have remained untenanted due to very high rent demands (two spaces are currently being fitted out, one for a laundromat and one for an orthodontist — not exactly the greatest use of a ground floor space on a prominent corner).
It may well be that RenewalSA thinks the MAB development can deliver on the promises instead, but if so, that means we won't see any proper local retail/services for another 5-10 years.
Is this the site next to Park Central? That one is pretty much the same, and the "retail tenant" is... a politician. How exciting.AR45 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 4:55 pmThe application indicates a very disappointing 1 retail tenancy, making a mockery of the original intent of Third Street as a mixed-use main street:Nathan wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:25 pmHearing chatter that the Sentinel development, the build-to-rent project on the lot bounded by Third St, Gibson St, Second St and Station Place, will significantly underdeliver on promised retail space. Despite having a requirement under the urban design guidelines, I've heard there'll only be a small number of retail tenancies along Third St, and the numbers made up with commercial space (which will be taken by Sentinel management).
Any compromise from RenewalSA on this project will be a massive failure. Residents have been patient for nearly ten years for RenewalSA to deliver on a local retail precinct, or "Main Street". The hospitality options are great, but we still don't have any of the general day to day retail, which means residents need to drive to surrounding areas to do daily tasks. The location of the Sentinel development, connecting the town square Plant 3 & 4, and Bowden East to the train station, tram terminus, greenway, and the Port Rd precinct, means this building should be the focal point of the retail area, with shops lining Third St, Gibson St, and Station Pl at a minimum.
The only retail spaces to date, that aren't a part of Plant 3/4, are a small handful of spaces within 354 — most of which have remained untenanted due to very high rent demands (two spaces are currently being fitted out, one for a laundromat and one for an orthodontist — not exactly the greatest use of a ground floor space on a prominent corner).
It may well be that RenewalSA thinks the MAB development can deliver on the promises instead, but if so, that means we won't see any proper local retail/services for another 5-10 years.
https://plan.sa.gov.au/development_appl ... 030645-DAP
It’s frustrating that there is no opportunity for public feedback or even to view the plans prior to approval. I though that the Bowden Design Review Panel still had to tick projects off before applications were lodged. Either it’s been dissolved or is completely toothless, I wish there was some transparency about their process…
1 Shop is a disgrace for a so called "main street"AR45 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:53 pmThis one is directly opposite the park and is the most important remaining site due to both size and location. Here you can see the prominence of the site https://www.sentinelcorp.com/blog/2023/ ... community/. Once this has a poor outcome, the entire original masterplan will be severely damaged.
What do you think the reason is for not including more retail? Seems like a no-brainer to me that retail should be prioritised.JK99 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:23 pm1 Shop is a disgrace for a so called "main street"AR45 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:53 pmThis one is directly opposite the park and is the most important remaining site due to both size and location. Here you can see the prominence of the site https://www.sentinelcorp.com/blog/2023/ ... community/. Once this has a poor outcome, the entire original masterplan will be severely damaged.
There's been a few retail tenancies added in the 354 development, but have had trouble leasing. Anecdotally, I've heard the rent being asked is excessive, and the floorplans not practical for some businesses. RenewalSA and Sentintel may be looking at those and misreading it as a lack of demand.dbl96 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 9:07 pmWhat do you think the reason is for not including more retail? Seems like a no-brainer to me that retail should be prioritised.JK99 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:23 pm1 Shop is a disgrace for a so called "main street"AR45 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:53 pmThis one is directly opposite the park and is the most important remaining site due to both size and location. Here you can see the prominence of the site https://www.sentinelcorp.com/blog/2023/ ... community/. Once this has a poor outcome, the entire original masterplan will be severely damaged.