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[APP] Re: 75-79 King William Street | 132m | 39 Levels | Mixed

Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:54 am
by ChillyPhilly
ozisnowman wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2019 5:22 pm
Time the RTCC and PANS-OPS gets reviewed and amended. Remember the old Hong Kong Airport.

Our Airport is no where near the CBD. Also the runway lines up with North Adelaide NOT Adelaide CBD. Hardly a skyscraper in North Adelaide.
If the CBD height was a problem at Adelaide Airport - they should have had a higher control tower and upgraded radar that caters for it. Why should the City and the States development be held back by under-funding of the Airport Infrastructure by government (I believe that the Control Tower / Radar would come under CASA or related Government Department).

Pity they also dont add a few extra floors of Apartments and a Roof Top Viewing Platform and aim for 150m+
It's more because the CBD happens to be right under an emergency flight path from Adelaide Airport. The CBD does not otherwise impact Adelaide Airport business.

[APP] Re: 75-79 King William Street | 132m | 39 Levels | Mixed

Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:53 am
by Nort
CDJ wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2019 9:26 am
ozisnowman wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2019 5:22 pm
Time the RTCC and PANS-OPS gets reviewed and amended. Remember the old Hong Kong Airport.

Our Airport is no where near the CBD. Also the runway lines up with North Adelaide NOT Adelaide CBD. Hardly a skyscraper in North Adelaide.
If the CBD height was a problem at Adelaide Airport - they should have had a higher control tower and upgraded radar that caters for it. Why should the City and the States development be held back by under-funding of the Airport Infrastructure by government (I believe that the Control Tower / Radar would come under CASA or related Government Department).
Agree with your overall sentiment that city development is being unreasonably held back by the current airspace height limits. A number of us are working with stakeholders to try and change this. However the details you've mentioned aren't really correct. The control tower height is not relevant and the main 'flightpaths' aren't particularly relevant either. A range of flight procedures need to be reviewed and amended in order to achieve increased height in the city. The industry is working on this. Although there is widespread support for change, it is a very long process.
I would appreciate any thoughts/info people might have on the possible crane strategy for 75KW.
Trying not to read much between the lines in this about another CBD development. ;)

[APP] Re: 75-79 King William Street | 132m | 39 Levels | Mixed

Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 12:46 pm
by CDJ
ChillyPhilly wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:54 am

It's more because the CBD happens to be right under an emergency flight path from Adelaide Airport. The CBD does not otherwise impact Adelaide Airport business.
It is more complex than any discussion on this forum. I have spent the last 18 months working through the airspace requirements in relation to Adelaide CBD, along with a team of specialists. We're working towards achieving change, but patience is required. Numerous stakeholders are involved.

[APP] Re: 75-79 King William Street | 132m | 39 Levels | Mixed

Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:13 pm
by The Scooter Guy
Time to see the look of the city change!
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[APP] Re: 75-79 King William Street | 132m | 39 Levels | Mixed

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:06 am
by d3v310per
If this proposal were to happen, hoping the northern wall abutting the neighbour won't become another blank concrete slab

[APP] Re: 75-79 King William Street | 132m | 39 Levels | Mixed

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:21 am
by Mpol03
I like the look of it but it’s another render that leaves a lot of room to be deceiving. What are all the colour panels? Is the glass so see through we will see the curtains? Is there various colours in the glass?

[APP] Re: 75-79 King William Street | 132m | 39 Levels | Mixed

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:44 am
by Nort
Mpol03 wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:21 am
I like the look of it but it’s another render that leaves a lot of room to be deceiving. What are all the colour panels? Is the glass so see through we will see the curtains? Is there various colours in the glass?
That's answered i page 38 of the planning application from last year: https://www.saplanningcommission.sa.gov ... elaide.pdf
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d3v310per wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:06 am
If this proposal were to happen, hoping the northern wall abutting the neighbour won't become another blank concrete slab
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[APP] Re: 75-79 King William Street | 132m | 39 Levels | Mixed

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:54 am
by Nort
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[APP] Re: 75-79 King William Street | 132m | 39 Levels | Mixed

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:08 pm
by Hybrid
Will be a fantastic day when the wrecking ball meets the current POS building.

[APP] Re: 75-79 King William Street | 132m | 39 Levels | Mixed

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 7:54 am
by Mr Smith
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Hybrid wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:08 pm
Will be a fantastic day when the wrecking ball meets the current POS building.
Absolutely. The location is at the very core of the commercial district and the current hideosity is an embarrassment. As is the building across the road (National Mutual) not to mention the row of dischevilled low rise rubbish running north of that building along KW st to Rundle Mall. The sooner all of these visual blights are removed the better.

[APP] Re: 75-79 King William Street | 132m | 39 Levels | Mixed

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 6:44 pm
by Patrick_27
Hybrid wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:08 pm
Will be a fantastic day when the wrecking ball meets the current POS building.
And to think the current POS building replaced one of Adelaide's most beautiful bank buildings, like you I'll be glad to this this go.

[APP] Re: 75-79 King William Street | 132m | 39 Levels | Mixed

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 7:45 pm
by Hybrid
Yep, 60's and 70's has a lot to answer for.

Was the building on the left I think?

[APP] Re: 75-79 King William Street | 132m | 39 Levels | Mixed

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 7:50 pm
by Mpol03
I feel like our cbd has lots of poor architecture from all eras. And then some beautiful exceptions.

When we get a few real talls nearing 200+ with some stunning design, I think our cbd will be quite the wonderful cluster f😉ck

[APP] Re: 75-79 King William Street | 132m | 39 Levels | Mixed

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 9:27 pm
by Patrick_27
Yeah, that's the one! I'm not entirely sure when it was bulldozed but like you said, somewhere around the 50s/60s. Here's a shot of the whole building...

[APP] Re: 75-79 King William Street | 132m | 39 Levels | Mixed

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 9:30 pm
by citywatcher
The hotel on pulteney and rundle
That was a masterpiece
Can't believe they bulldozed it

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