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#31 Post by rev » Thu Aug 17, 2023 6:46 pm

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#32 Post by dsriggs » Thu Aug 17, 2023 6:54 pm

Have we had a single multi-building project in Adelaide that HASN'T been a complete balls-up?

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#33 Post by rev » Thu Aug 17, 2023 7:08 pm

dsriggs wrote:
Thu Aug 17, 2023 6:54 pm
Have we had a single multi-building project in Adelaide that HASN'T been a complete balls-up?
The former Balfours site in the city or City Central?

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#34 Post by HiTouch » Thu Aug 17, 2023 7:14 pm

dsriggs wrote:
Thu Aug 17, 2023 6:54 pm
Have we had a single multi-building project in Adelaide that HASN'T been a complete balls-up?
Kodo? 260 Flinders St?

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#35 Post by Nort » Fri Aug 18, 2023 9:40 am

rev wrote:
Thu Aug 17, 2023 7:08 pm
dsriggs wrote:
Thu Aug 17, 2023 6:54 pm
Have we had a single multi-building project in Adelaide that HASN'T been a complete balls-up?
The former Balfours site in the city or City Central?
The former Balfours site which has been the empty shell of the Balfours factory on the corner for the past 20 years?

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#36 Post by ChillyPhilly » Wed Sep 20, 2023 3:42 pm

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#37 Post by jimbly » Thu Nov 02, 2023 12:04 pm

Tim Gurner’s $1.25bn plan to transform Adelaide site
Article From: The Australian 2/11/2023
The first images of controversial developer Tim Gurner’s $1.25bn plan to transform the former Australia Post site in Adelaide’s CBD have been revealed.
The ambitious proposal includes a plan to build five towers scaling up to 27 storeys, with 600 apartments including affordable housing, hotel, offices, shops, bars, restaurants, a public plaza and wellness centre.

Gurner Group is rolling out its new Saint Haven wellness chain across Australia, offering everything from cryotherapy to massage and salt rooms, non-alcoholic cocktails, medicinal treatments and ancient remedies.

Documents lodged with South Australia’s State Commission Assessment Panel (SCAP) reveal plans to deliver the project - known as Grote & Gouger - in three stages.
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A 220-room hotel and 19-level mixed-use apartment tower featuring the Saint Haven wellness centre come first, located at the western end of the 1.1ha site, followed by a third apartment tower on the corner of Grote and Blenheim streets reaching up to 27 levels.

The third and final stage comprises of two more apartment buildings located at the southern end of the site.

A total of 514 car parking spaces and 620 bicycle parking spaces are offered across the site, while 15 per cent of the apartments have been set aside as affordable housing.

In the documents lodged with SCAP, architects Elenberg Fraser say the project will establish an “unprecedented standard for sustainable living”.

“Grote & Gouger is an urban precinct that celebrates lifestyle, wellness, local culture, and landscape, and Adelaide’s most significant carbon neutral project,” it says.

“This mixed-use development will offer residents and visitors the opportunity to experience a vibrant public realm and a retail offering focused on F&B, wellness, and boutique offerings. “The precinct will create a pedestrian-focused ground plane and a network of lively laneways.”

The SCAP is expected to approve the proposal when it meets on Wednesday, with government planning officer Mollie O’Connor recommending it be approved.
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“The proposal will facilitate a mixed-use development that will support residential and tourism generating opportunities for population and employment growth in Adelaide city,” she says in her report.

South Australian Government Architect Kirsteen Mackay also endorses the plans following the developer’s response to several issues raised during a design review process.

“I recognise the significant opportunity this unique site presents due to its size and the potential to create a new precinct,” she says in her formal response to the plans.

“I also acknowledge and support the amendments made following the design review session to address the issues raised, including considerable reduction of building heights.
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“I support the overall project ambitions, however my ongoing support for the proposal of this intensity is contingent on the full delivery of the design intent, including high-quality architectural outcomes, extensive soft landscaping scope and sustainability commitments.”

Gurner is working with the Grote St site’s owner, Kennards Self Storage, on the development following Kennards’ $40.6m purchase of the site in 2020.

Mr Gurner is worth an estimated $677m, placing him at 192 on The Australian’s Rich 250 list.

He made global headlines earlier this year after calling for a “painful” 50 per cent increase in unemployment to spur “lazy” workers into action.

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#38 Post by ChillyPhilly » Thu Nov 02, 2023 12:06 pm

Looks fantastic!

The cynic in me can't wait for this to be watered down.
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#39 Post by likeperu » Thu Nov 02, 2023 12:17 pm

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#40 Post by Smithy84 » Thu Nov 02, 2023 12:20 pm

Sorry but, won’t happen.

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#41 Post by likeperu » Thu Nov 02, 2023 12:24 pm

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#42 Post by Vasco » Thu Nov 02, 2023 12:27 pm

Looks fantastic, hopefully it actually gets built out and not dumbed down, but Gurner does tend to do good stuff.

Meanwhile disappointing it will be next the new Fugly paintwork going on the Ex Aus Post / Kenards storage building


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#43 Post by Norman » Thu Nov 02, 2023 3:16 pm

It's a hugely ambitious development in an area that doesn't offer a lot except the nearby schools. It also doesn't really fit in to the local area of very much low rise buildings. I wish them all the best though and hope to see it go ahead.

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#44 Post by Nathan » Thu Nov 02, 2023 4:47 pm

Norman wrote:
Thu Nov 02, 2023 3:16 pm
It's a hugely ambitious development in an area that doesn't offer a lot except the nearby schools. It also doesn't really fit in to the local area of very much low rise buildings. I wish them all the best though and hope to see it go ahead.
It's only a 700m walk to the Central Market and Gouger St precinct. Not next door, but close enough.

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#45 Post by Patrick_27 » Thu Nov 02, 2023 4:54 pm

Whilst I like it, a project of this scale in Adelaide without government backing will likely flop during the sales/early-construction phase, or succumb to a dumbing down of the project scale and design. This reminds me of the same ambition behind the initial City Central development which still hasn’t wrapped up almost 20 years since it was first earmarked and however many developers later. If this were Melbourne, we’d see construction starting by the beginning/middle of next year with a two year turn around (their massive Spencer Street apartment project comes to mind). Happy to be proven wrong, but we have a shocking track record here and so long as Kennards storage have their thing going, I can’t see any drive for them to push for this to happen.

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