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From the Advertiser. I think this has been talked about for ages and I wonder if this will ever happen.

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Vision to fix ugly railyards

PAUL STARICK, CHIEF REPORTER

November 27, 2006 01:15am
Article from: The Advertiser

AN influential property industry leader is urging the redevelopment of Adelaide's "unsightly" railyards, predicting offices and waterfront homes worth $500 million would be constructed.
Knight Frank South Australian managing director, Don Crouch, said the railyards, west of the Morphett St bridge, were a vast area of land with access to a rundown area of the River Torrens.

"No other capital city in Australia has such a large area of land so close to the city that has not been developed," he said. "Property in Adelaide's CBD is confined and land values are spiralling. Surely the time has come to take a fresh look at the area and how it can be redeveloped for the benefit of the city and its visitors." Mr Crouch said city river frontage was a prime development spot in almost every other Australian city.

He pointed to Melbourne's Southbank development - a mix of offices, restaurants, shops and housing - as an example of what might happen at the railyards.

But he stressed any redevelopment should not erode the parklands on the Torrens' southern bank.

Rather, Mr Crouch said a redevelopment would "provide a perfect opportunity to beautify this section of the river".

"For some of the land, the best use may well be parklands or a major recreational facility," he said.

Previous debate about the railyards site has included the prospect of building a Telstra Dome-style sports arena.

Mr Crouch said development in the 1980s of the SkyCity Adelaide casino, Hyatt Regency hotel and Adelaide Convention Centre had demonstrated the viability of building over railway tracks.

Given the success of these developments, he said, it was now time to consider the options west of Morphett St.

"We need to consider whether the 20 or so tracks that meander across the yards are really necessary and what kind of development would be the most appropriate for the area," he said. The old Adelaide Gaol could be incorporated into any development, he said, and even the previous suggestion of a whitewater rafting course downstream from the Torrens weir re-examined.

Mr Crouch said the redevelopment would be a long-term project which would require input from state, federal and local governments.

But Property Council of Australia SA executive director Nathan Paine said there probably were plenty of opportunities for commercial development within the CBD. "We recognise that there is a fair chunk of space there that's being under-utilised," he said.

"The question is, taking a look at the future development of the city and where we want it to go, whether this is the most appropriate place to go."

Lord Mayor Michael Harbison did not return several calls from The Advertiser.

State Government ministers, including the Premier Mike Rann, yesterday declined to comment on the proposal.
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This is what we need more of in a capital city. Thanks for the find Al.
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I would like to see the casino move there, so the railway station can be returned to its former glory. It's really depressing for me to wonder though the casino and think about what it used to be.
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I appauled Knight Frank for doing this, the railway yards has massive potential
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Think I wet myself when I first saw this thinking it was an actual proposal... if only. Good to see people aren't giving up on the idea which will hopefully led to someone eventually taking this more seriously.
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I'm just happy that the local media is focusing more on positive development news.. even if nothing eventuates from this, i feel it's a positive step in building the state's battered confidence.
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This proposal should be seriously considered. AAMI Stadium is not suitable for the 21st century. This city needs a new modern multi-purpose stadium for the footy, but also if we ever are serious about staging the Commonwealth Games or being part of an Australian FIFA World Cup.

This vision can be built with help from the private sector.
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two words........

IF ONLY!

The ACC, government and private industry don't have the balls to go through with something like this...Unfortunately as great as this idea/vision is, those concerned can't see past their ego's and cant see whats good for the Adelaide if it turned around and slapped them in the face!

I think its a brilliant vision.....i can't think of anything better a stadium over the railyards, hi-rise apartments by the river, restauraunts, cafes, walking strips from the Botanical Gardens all the way to the New stadium.... and importantly people with lots of credit cards spending away....but alas, it's too futuristic an approach to ever get the go ahead!

We are resolved to being termed...

"Adelaide, the city thats 30mins behind the rest"
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Pie in the sky and nothing new here really. All good to talk about but who is going to get this into action?
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AtD wrote:I would like to see the casino move there, so the railway station can be returned to its former glory. It's really depressing for me to wonder though the casino and think about what it used to be.
What would you put in this building if they did vacate it? It is HUGE - the amount of floor space in the railway station is phenomenal. Besides the amount of investment that SkyCity has put into that building is way too much for them to just get up and walk out now. BTW I have heard rumors of takeover talks of SkyCity by PBL.
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What Adelaide needs is a multi purpose venue, one like telstra stadium in Sydney where the seats are on rollers and can be slid back and forth in order to make the pitch rectangular or oval. This could be used for cricket, football, soccer and we could even try to attract some more international rugby to Adelaide.
It would be great to have all sports in one location in the heart of the city but I can't see this happening for a lot of years due to the announcement of the $70 million facelift to AAMI Stadium and the expansion of Adelaide Oval to make it a 40,000 seat arena
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i think it could get quite a bit of public support. many people dislike using AAMI, its not very accessible, and PT is appalling. this was made obvious through the U2 concert the other week. 1 1/2hr wait for a bus is ridiculous for a 1st world city in the 21st century.

i know these huge events arent that common, but having thousands of people stranded at West Lakes at 12:30am Friday morning isnt ideal.

imaging those 60,000+ people going in to the city before and after such a concert or sports event, makes such a vision more worthwhile to go ahead.
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Pistol78: I'd be happy if the casino at least vacated the ground floor. Some of the architecture there is stunning, the entrance hall for example.

The only reason I might be against this is if, like with the convention centre, they remove platforms from the station.
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Loch Nes wrote:the expansion of Adelaide Oval to make it a 40,000 seat arena
Well the Adelaide Oval expansion should go ahead regardless if this takes off.
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