The Missing Piece/s

[Mawen]

I also think more of a focus should be put be put back onto the 5 squares to make them busy, vibrant places where people will naturally want be. At a time like the soccer world cup Victoria square should have been where people gathered. i think traffic should be taken out of Light square and whitmore square and have these squares more active with out door concerts or markets or buskers or anything like that which is going to make them more interesting.

Thank you for your comments, they were truly good to read. In particular how you added to my idea about victoria square. SEE ABOVE. I would like to see all the five squares in Adelaide be more "Vistor Friendly". I love your ideas, in particular the large screens for special events. I hate, when they have to bring in a giant screen, [hired], during special events. But, if one was permanent this would beat hiring big screens and during non-eventful times; it would be a good for marketing, advertising, playing music or something of the youtube / myspace idea. Locals could have share their stories on the screens; about things about them, how they feel about adelaide or have a live screening to other states.

As for the other five squares; i have thought of another idea. For example; keep the idea about Victoria Square with the iconic building and the museum. But in the other four squares there could be a smaller iconic building in which houses a musuem; but each of the other buildings has a specific theme which represents Adelaide. For example;

Hindmarsh Square = Adelaide Hills
Light Square = Fleurie Peninsula
Hurtle Square = Flinders Ranges
Whitmore Square = KI.

Each museum, can display the different enviornments, cultures and people in these regions for tourists - but instead of it being a borning and dull information centre; it could be interactive and hands-on and something really unique. Like a walk-in enviornment; in which represents the environment.

[Mawen]

Thank you very much for your comments, your ideas are interesting and in a perfect world they should come into fruitation. I really like the ideas that have been suggested, in particular the ideas focusing on using local talent to improve the arts feel to the 'festival state'. I think there should be more room for public art and instituations in Adelaide. I think Adelaide, needs ideas like this and a new way of thinking about urban development to;

Keep South Australians in South Australia
To be an interesting City for its residents and to attract Tourists
For economic sustainability and global competition; we need more intersting development - because this put our economy in the hands of production and not agriculture. We are still an old-world economy and rely on taking from the state to stimulate growth and prosperity. Lets use the people power, the power of the talented young South Australians.

I would love to see more development in Adelaide, so lets use this thread to suggest some ideas.

For me, another intersting idea would be to include an underwater world in the Zoo. This would attract a new array of marine animals in the zoo; and would attract a new crowd and sustainable crowd to the zoo. But, make the underwater world unique and innvoative. Make sure that it does involve the features of our sister cities aquariams; but also involve other features that are world-firsts.......

Come On Adelaide!

[Pistol]

For me, another intersting idea would be to include an underwater world in the Zoo. This would attract a new array of marine animals in the zoo; and would attract a new crowd and sustainable crowd to the zoo. But, make the underwater world unique and innvoative. Make sure that it does involve the features of our sister cities aquariams; but also involve other features that are world-firsts.......
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My girlfriend works at the zoo and let me tell you that their footprint is as big as it CAN get. I asked when she first started there why it was so small. Simple answer was that there is no where for it TO go. What I thought would be a good concept is if they extended the zoo to the other side of the Torrens via bridges - that land there is basically squandered and ready for something. So for a project like this (underwater world) it would require an extension of the zoo over the Torrens.

[bva]

is it physically possibe for the zoo to extend onto land vacated if RAH move?

[Bulldozer]

For the nations largest sized CBD, there is a lack of space being utilised for 'CBD' pruposes. Beyond the boundaries of North, Morphett, Pulteney, and Grote/Wakefield Streets, nothing else much happens. There should be major revitalisation of the outer CBD areas to transform them into 'dense' hubs surrounding each of the city squares.

I agree. However I think the problem is that because all of the major public institutions are located on North Tce there's not really much a reason for anyone to venture further south than Victoria Square. If you moved Adelaide Station so it was a subway station under Victoria Square then I think we'd start to see a big shift in development of the southern part of the square mile. In the meantime though, extending the tram line to the railway station will have a similar effect as now it will be easy for people to get to the southern side of the city.

Adelaide also has a very low population density compared to other Australian cities - it needs to more than double before we'll really start to see a change in the vibrancy of the square mile as a whole. There just aren't enough people around to make it viable for cafe's etc to exist in those areas.

[SRW]

For me, another intersting idea would be to include an underwater world in the Zoo. This would attract a new array of marine animals in the zoo; and would attract a new crowd and sustainable crowd to the zoo. But, make the underwater world unique and innvoative. Make sure that it does involve the features of our sister cities aquariams; but also involve other features that are world-firsts.......

I don't think that would be a practical venture for the zoo. Port Adelaide is much better suited for aquarium facilities.

[Shuz]

Brainstorm coming through!

Knock down the Riverside office building, and the adjoining Hyatt Convention Building, creating an open space link between North Terrace and the Riverbank. Transform this area into a Federation Square style plaza, utilised with cafes and LCD screens mounted around the area. Its located right next to the Convention Centre, Hyatt Hotel and Railway Station, which creates a perfect meeting spot located right in the city heart!

Call it the worst paintjob youve ever seen, but it was done in 5 minutes.

[SRW]

Brainstorm coming through!

Knock down the Riverside office building, and the adjoining Hyatt Convention Building, creating an open space link between North Terrace and the Riverbank. Transform this area into a Federation Square style plaza, utilised with cafes and LCD screens mounted around the area. Its located right next to the Convention Centre, Hyatt Hotel and Railway Station, which creates a perfect meeting spot located right in the city heart!

Call it the worst paintjob youve ever seen, but it was done in 5 minutes.

Oh, I like that. Those two buildings are so poorly designed for the area I'd be happy to see them gone.

[Will]

Why destroy perfectly good buildings. Why not build a Federation Square at the Festival plaza which is currently under-utilized.

[Mawen]

For me, another intersting idea would be to include an underwater world in the Zoo. This would attract a new array of marine animals in the zoo; and would attract a new crowd and sustainable crowd to the zoo. But, make the underwater world unique and innvoative. Make sure that it does involve the features of our sister cities aquariams; but also involve other features that are world-firsts.......
!

My girlfriend works at the zoo and let me tell you that their footprint is as big as it CAN get. I asked when she first started there why it was so small. Simple answer was that there is no where for it TO go. What I thought would be a good concept is if they extended the zoo to the other side of the Torrens via bridges - that land there is basically squandered and ready for something. So for a project like this (underwater world) it would require an extension of the zoo over the Torrens.

I think that sounds like a creative and viable suggestion. Extending the zoo would be a good idea... The zoo is soo tucked away and surrounded by parklands; extending over the torrens with drawbridges and other bridges would make for an interesting design/s. I think we should have a look at a map of the zoo from a birdseye view to truly envisage what an underwater world would look like.

Thanks for your comments too, and i think your extension is a good concept!

[Mawen]

For the nations largest sized CBD, there is a lack of space being utilised for 'CBD' pruposes. Beyond the boundaries of North, Morphett, Pulteney, and Grote/Wakefield Streets, nothing else much happens. There should be major revitalisation of the outer CBD areas to transform them into 'dense' hubs surrounding each of the city squares.

I agree. However I think the problem is that because all of the major public institutions are located on North Tce there's not really much a reason for anyone to venture further south than Victoria Square. If you moved Adelaide Station so it was a subway station under Victoria Square then I think we'd start to see a big shift in development of the southern part of the square mile. In the meantime though, extending the tram line to the railway station will have a similar effect as now it will be easy for people to get to the southern side of the city.

Adelaide also has a very low population density compared to other Australian cities - it needs to more than double before we'll really start to see a change in the vibrancy of the square mile as a whole. There just aren't enough people around to make it viable for cafe's etc to exist in those areas.

Some very intersting thoughts... I do agree that alot of the instituations and the activity; socially, medically and acadmecially is concentrated on North Terrace. However, there is a push to develop around Victoria Square and Grote Street. Hopefully this is going to beginnings of further development in the central and southern districts of adelaide. With the North and South Now being connected via the tram line; accessiblity is covered. What we do need to see down the South Now is something that attracts crowds. A Shopping Hub [Westfield] with cinemas / water park / acarde, Museum, University, Big Buisness Skyscraper and Office block, Public Art, Indigenous Musem dedicated to the Kauna People or something completely unique and different for adelaide. We are known for wine and cafe cultures; we are also very globalized. We could play this card further and add; a Ripley's Beileve it or Not, Hard Rock Cafe, Planet Hollywood [Down Under Theme], Intencity [Similar light display like the Gold Coast attraction, Permanent Markets for Second-Hand [brick a brack], Another Casino with Rollercoaster...

[Mawen]

For me, another intersting idea would be to include an underwater world in the Zoo. This would attract a new array of marine animals in the zoo; and would attract a new crowd and sustainable crowd to the zoo. But, make the underwater world unique and innvoative. Make sure that it does involve the features of our sister cities aquariams; but also involve other features that are world-firsts.......

I don't think that would be a practical venture for the zoo. Port Adelaide is much better suited for aquarium facilities.

Well that is another good idea, Port Adelaide is Happening Currently - so why not build that into the plans down there. We need to seek out the advice from the Port Adelaide - Enfield Council.

[Mawen]

Brainstorm coming through!

Knock down the Riverside office building, and the adjoining Hyatt Convention Building, creating an open space link between North Terrace and the Riverbank. Transform this area into a Federation Square style plaza, utilised with cafes and LCD screens mounted around the area. Its located right next to the Convention Centre, Hyatt Hotel and Railway Station, which creates a perfect meeting spot located right in the city heart!

Call it the worst paintjob youve ever seen, but it was done in 5 minutes.

I do not think the paint job is that bad, i think it helps visulize your idea! Well Done...

I think the RiverSide Building should be knocked down, but keep the public art out the front and make it into a federaon square style plaze; joining North Terrace with the Festival theatre and plaza and convention centre - thus making it the art and cafe place for entertainment in adelaide. On top of your ideas; add a public arena so adelaide can come togeather to watch live TV - Major Concerts / Events / Sports / - the TV would link to other cities; like a Live City BLOG - and show coverage of the Adelaide Oval and AAMI Stadium during sporting events. But, the place could double up as a open air concert venue, gathering for New Years EVE.. etc. I think the Riverside Center should be located further towards the CBD; taking advantage of the new concept to build around Victoria Square. This way Adelaide has focused zones. Let the River Torrens be where Adelaidens play and the Victoria Square [CBD] where we work..

[urban]

If you remove the car park entrance from btwn the casino and parliament house you actually have a good sized courtyard for medium sized gatherings. (The car park has other entrances). This could then be joined up with the Festival plaza for larger events.