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ChillyPhilly wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 12:56 pm
That would be fantastic! Let's get our counterargument ready for Team Adelaide's inevitable 'but what about the cars????' statement.
Already in that article!
“By retaining traffic lanes and all parking bays we will not alienate the majority of people who drive … we can make the precinct welcoming for everyone,” he said.
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Nort wrote:
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ChillyPhilly wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 12:56 pm
That would be fantastic! Let's get our counterargument ready for Team Adelaide's inevitable 'but what about the cars????' statement.
Already in that article!
“By retaining traffic lanes and all parking bays we will not alienate the majority of people who drive … we can make the precinct welcoming for everyone,” he said.
Yep. Lets not forget that the DLM is in Team Adelaide and could probably be considered the unofficial head.

Also, and I expect the DLM would know this, a proposal like the one shown in the drawings would likely cost upwards of $20million, possibly (probably) more.
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Here's one thing Melbourne are doing at this time.

If only the ACC had a similar vision.

If only the ACC had vision.

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ChillyPhilly wrote:
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Here's one thing Melbourne are doing at this time.

If only the ACC had a similar vision.

If only the ACC had vision.

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Rundle Mall Christmas decorations are going up at the moment. Of all the different incarnations of these displays have they stuck with the tackiest of the lot? Plastic Christmas trees, wooden cut outs of Christmas trees, a few fairy lights... It's pretty appalling when compared to elsewhere in Australia let alone the world.
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Rundle Mall Christmas decorations are going up at the moment. Of all the different incarnations of these displays have they stuck with the tackiest of the lot? Plastic Christmas trees, wooden cut outs of Christmas trees, a few fairy lights... It's pretty appalling when compared to elsewhere in Australia let alone the world.
No, there are cubes with window displays being placed all through the mall, each done by a different artist I believe. The plastic trees are only because they've tried real trees in the past, but they don't handle the heat and need constant replacing.

Remember, most Christmas displays you see around the world come alive in the dark, or at the very least, gloomier skies. When the mall is sun drenched well into the evening, of course extravagant lighting displays are going to be a lost cause.
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Patrick_27 wrote:
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Rundle Mall Christmas decorations are going up at the moment. Of all the different incarnations of these displays have they stuck with the tackiest of the lot? Plastic Christmas trees, wooden cut outs of Christmas trees, a few fairy lights... It's pretty appalling when compared to elsewhere in Australia let alone the world.
No, there are cubes with window displays being placed all through the mall, each done by a different artist I believe. The plastic trees are only because they've tried real trees in the past, but they don't handle the heat and need constant replacing.

Remember, most Christmas displays you see around the world come alive in the dark, or at the very least, gloomier skies. When the mall is sun drenched well into the evening, of course extravagant lighting displays are going to be a lost cause.
I realise this about the real Christmas trees, but replacing them with trees that look as though they were purchased from Kmart in the Boxing Day sales doesn't make for a better solution. As for the display boxes, a lot of them from recollection tend to be marketing gimmicks for local businesses advertising their Christmas range. There are other things they could be doing for daylight displays, they use to hang baubles up on the old Mall's lighting posts, where did they go? They also purchased a heap of hang down decorations once the new Mall was complete that hung from the lighting wire these made only one appearance and never came out again. They could also bring the Christmas tree on Victoria Square and set it up in Gawler Place instead. There are so many options but instead we get the same half-baked displays year in-year out.
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I'm not really fussed about the displays - Christmas is not celebrated by everyone, and is already over-commercialised as is.

Equally, I understand that the state's premier shopping destination - which does 60% of its trade in the final three months of the year - probably should have better decorations to reflect this.
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Council administration is now pushing the elected members to sign off on the east-west bikeway before the end of the year, after the transport department made clear the bleeding obvious: the money they put up in 2016 is not going to sit there forever.

Article over at InDaily:
'After years of delay, city council rushes to confirm east-west bikeway'

The suggested route now appears to be Wakefield to Franklin through a dogleg on Gawler Place.
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Of course, 1950s poster boy Clr Hyde has to the hide to shift the goalposts yet again saying council he doesn't want to sign off on a route before costs and design are sorted (despite design and costs having been ascertained for previous route he rejected).

As for the route, IMO, fine. Wakefield has better connections to the east than Flinders, and Franklin is as good a connection west as any. And an interface with Gawler Place was essential anyway, and will hopefully prompt future further upgrades. But for now, get on with it.

(Tbh, I've always been somewhat apprehensive about Franklin/Flinders as I rate them a better potential tram route than Grote/Wakefield)
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I think the dogleg is a dumb concession that introduces problems and solves nothing. Instead of being able to ride straight through the intersection, riders will instead have to do a right hand turn across multi lane roads. Even if space is made to do this safely, it still adds at a minimum an additional half cycle of lights.

Who on Flinders St, between Gawler Pl and Pulteney, are they clearly so scared off?
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I think the dogleg is a dumb concession that introduces problems and solves nothing. Instead of being able to ride straight through the intersection, riders will instead have to do a right hand turn across multi lane roads. Even if space is made to do this safely, it still adds at a minimum an additional half cycle of lights.

Who on Flinders St, between Gawler Pl and Pulteney, are they clearly so scared off?
I suspect many riders will continue straight or turn if they need to.
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Eurostar wrote:
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Nathan wrote:
Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:25 pm
I think the dogleg is a dumb concession that introduces problems and solves nothing. Instead of being able to ride straight through the intersection, riders will instead have to do a right hand turn across multi lane roads. Even if space is made to do this safely, it still adds at a minimum an additional half cycle of lights.

Who on Flinders St, between Gawler Pl and Pulteney, are they clearly so scared off?
I suspect many riders will continue straight or turn if they need to.
The parents with kids and less-confident riders will use the separated bikeway. It might encourage some people to ride who think it is too scary or dangerous now. People who ride those roads now probably won't change their route, so motorists who complain of cyclists on those roads between Pulteney and King William Streets will continue to complain, as there will be cyclists on the "car lanes" on both streets.
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Can we also mention that for those riders that do want the completely safe route and follow the dogleg, that they'll be sent down a shared contraflow street that provides access for a multi-level carpark with 2 lanes in and 2 lanes out (and a line of loading zones and 15min parking on the other side).
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So westbound will be dumped at a dead end on west terrace? Not to mention a right hand turn across Wakefield St for the dog leg completely undermines the point of an east-west route.

Only these clowns could come up with something so ridiculous.

Im guessing there's some vocal "ratepayers" in 81 Flinders.

As for driver's month, clearly the administration is so utterly embarrassed by the backwards elected reps on council that you have to go out of your way to find a mention of it on the website.

https://explore.cityofadelaide.com.au/park-n-play/
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