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[COM] Re: Festival Plaza Redevelopment | $800 million

#1156 Post by obituary resider » Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:15 pm

Looks like its been value managed to kingdom come and back :cry:

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#1157 Post by Spotto » Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:38 pm

The greenway between Parliament and the rest of the retail buildings looked like a nice feature. Now it’ll be replaced with a generic stale alleyway that’ll be littered with the odd piece of plastic or paper that blows in.

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#1158 Post by Algernon » Tue Nov 10, 2020 12:01 am

obituary resider wrote:
Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:15 pm
Looks like its been value managed to kingdom come and back :cry:
No worries, it'll get some industry award where other glass box companies declare this the most 'world-class' of the lot

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#1159 Post by Nort » Tue Nov 10, 2020 11:09 am

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It will certainly end up a b grade cafe area and the tower will probably never happen

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The tower will definitely get built. It's a great piece of land for a commercial tower being gifted, and getting this plaza built is the price being paid.

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#1160 Post by SRW » Tue Nov 10, 2020 11:25 am

Nort wrote:
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It will certainly end up a b grade cafe area and the tower will probably never happen

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The tower will definitely get built. It's a great piece of land for a commercial tower being gifted, and getting this plaza built is the price being paid.
We're really only getting parts of the carpark in return, given the state will be paying upwards of $200 million for the plaza and environs. Labor screwed us on this deal.
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#1161 Post by SRW » Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:04 am

Pulled a few more shots from the devapp that show just how unsympathetic its massing is to the context, particularly Parliament House.
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#1162 Post by ChillyPhilly » Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:08 am

The recent cost cutting on this project wouldn't have happened on John Hanlon's watch. Unfortunately, the Liberals decided to get involved.
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#1163 Post by cmet » Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:38 pm

Am I the only one that thinks this will look better? The fact that now we have the tower ‘boxes’ at slightly different angles means each section will reflect differently in the sun. This is opposed to one large uniform box in the previous application. The floor plates are far more interesting now.

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#1164 Post by cmet » Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:44 pm

Plus the fact they are proposing to use the same materials as their parramatta square dev bodes well. I’ve seen parramatta square in person and it really looks like 1st class product

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#1165 Post by Pikey » Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:44 pm

cmet wrote:
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Am I the only one that thinks this will look better? The fact that now we have the tower ‘boxes’ at slightly different angles means each section will reflect differently in the sun. This is opposed to one large uniform box in the previous application. The floor plates are far more interesting now.
I agree, but I guess in this instance it's the unpopular opinion!!
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#1166 Post by AndyWelsh » Mon Nov 30, 2020 10:01 am

Progress view from the Intercontinental this morning:

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#1167 Post by ReallyBad » Sat Dec 12, 2020 1:57 pm

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#1168 Post by how good is he » Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:41 pm

If it continues like this with no signs of trees/greenery (or any room for them) then it won’t be much improvement to the previous desolate Hajek plaza landscape.

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#1169 Post by Joelmark » Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:09 pm

Several pages back on this thread (around April 2020) there are links to all of the signed-off plans, etc. detailing exactly where all the trees and landscaping will go.

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#1170 Post by how good is he » Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:38 pm

Yes I have seen the plans/renders but the actual is looking far less appealing. I know landscaping is the final part so will wait to the end to judge it.

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