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Pikey wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:59 pm
rhino wrote:
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Pikey wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:42 pm
Not from memory, Realm did, but they've been very transparent with their changes.
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Realm have been transparent with their glazing .... changes
I was wondering if anyone would pick that one up :lol:
Saw right through it mate
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View from the North Terrace and Frome St intersection. (6/12/2018)

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About 10 or so new renders. The design has changed slightly. Looks very 'busy' on the Podium levels. Renders from page 34.

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I think the podium looks quite ugly tbh.
I do like the look of the grey glass, given it’s reflective.
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Geez.... there's a lot of exposed concrete now... uh oh...
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Mpol03 wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:01 pm
I think the podium looks quite ugly tbh.
I do like the look of the grey glass, given it’s reflective.
If you're referring to the above photo then you do realise that it won't look like that forever? It's only just gone up.
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timtam20292 wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:34 pm
Mpol03 wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:01 pm
I think the podium looks quite ugly tbh.
I do like the look of the grey glass, given it’s reflective.
If you're referring to the above photo then you do realise that it won't look like that forever? It's only just gone up.
He's referring to the renders in the link I just posted :)
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Ben wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:39 pm
timtam20292 wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:34 pm
Mpol03 wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:01 pm
I think the podium looks quite ugly tbh.
I do like the look of the grey glass, given it’s reflective.
If you're referring to the above photo then you do realise that it won't look like that forever? It's only just gone up.
He's referring to the renders in the link I just posted :)
Whoops, my bad. Thanks for telling me.
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Still not sure it is going to look all that great, the podium doesn't do much for me. It would have been interesting in the render titled "VIEW OF CORNER IDENTITY ELEMENT TO PODIUM (@ CNR OF FROME & LANEWAY)" to show the "new student" apartment tower instead of the now missing buildings :hilarious:
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To be honest and it's been said numerous times, the quality of the glass is going to make or break this development. Hopefully we get some nice quality, reflective glass on this one as seen in the earlier renders, as opposed to the later cartoon drawings showing the student tower next door.
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Hrmmm.... It appears the dumbing down and cheapening of the facade is happening... Looks like low reflective glazing and the introduction of precast concrete. Already looks a lot less "slick" than previously.

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If/when the site opposite gets developed (as seems likely) a lot of it will be blocked off anyway.

Big shame that they seem to be cheapening the whole thing though.
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I can't spot many visual changes apart from the deletion of balconies for the hotel levels 11-20. I don't much mind the loss of balconies as I think it gives it a cleaner vertical expression. The plans indicate full floor glazing across those levels, though the grey panels in the daytime renders are concerning -- are they blinds, different glass or concrete as Pikey suggests? As far as the glazing goes, the following render concerns me for its similarity to the cheap-looking 400 KWS (notice the corner fixings):
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I now understand the council's objection to Kyren's proposed change to the hotel drop-off arrangements. I had thought maybe it was a good thing that the vehicle movements would be placed in the carpark rather than Tavistock Lane, but as the council points out Kyren has made the internal drop off so inconvenient that guests would in reality choose to be dropped off on Frome Street and therefore interfere with vital traffic lanes. From inside the car park it's a 70 metre unpleasant and convoluted walk to check in. It would appear Kyren wants to shirk guests onto the public road to avoid paying to upgrade Tavistock Lane and loose any lettable area on the corner.
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Probably a stupid question but is it standard practice to make such variations to the facade post approval, usually during construction? Lurking here it's something I'm seeing quite often, the approved building is usually quite different to the final product. Is it an attempt to improve chances of building approval? If the buildings approved based on architectural merit only to have considerable variations made during the build, should it still have been built? Was it always the plan to make changes, effectively dumbing down the building?

Are buyers compensated? I'd be pretty pissed if I'd bought an apartment taking into account the quality of materials, how the building/entrance/lobby/etc looked to find out the plans had changed.
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I walked past this site yesterday, it has a huge presence on Frome Street!
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