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We know part of this will be a hotel so maybe they are just organising an operator first before they start. On that, what brands are left that we don’t have here or coming as yet? I’m thinking it could become a Sheraton, Shangri-la, Langham, Marriott, Ramada. Thoughts?
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I have heard that the hotel component here is intended to be a W hotel.
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Neko Neko Peko Peko wrote:
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I'm hoping this delay in starting this will mean the design will be revisited and this building will be bumped up in height to be Adelaide's tallest. I heard this will have an observation deck on the roof, and given the design and location of it, it seems it will have good design merit to be Adelaide's new tallest.

This could be wishful thinking but one can hope!
This would require change in the RTCC which is controlled by the Federal Government (CASA/Airservices). Heights for Realm, Adelaidean, 75 King William, 80 Currie and Central Market Arcade are all dictated by the RTCC, hence they are all nearly identical. The only difference in height between them relates to minor differences in ground level and minor differences in crane strategy.
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CDJ wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:41 pm
Neko Neko Peko Peko wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 5:45 pm
I'm hoping this delay in starting this will mean the design will be revisited and this building will be bumped up in height to be Adelaide's tallest. I heard this will have an observation deck on the roof, and given the design and location of it, it seems it will have good design merit to be Adelaide's new tallest.

This could be wishful thinking but one can hope!
This would require change in the RTCC which is controlled by the Federal Government (CASA/Airservices). Heights for Realm, Adelaidean, 75 King William, 80 Currie and Central Market Arcade are all dictated by the RTCC, hence they are all nearly identical. The only difference in height between them relates to minor differences in ground level and minor differences in crane strategy.
I’ve seen you post the RTCC being lifted and there being a lot going on behind the scenes. Is there any sort of realistic time line for this or is it more so the question of how long is a piece of string.

If/when we see the RTCC lifted would you expect to see an influx of 150+ proposals made?
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I am curious when they build multi-storey airport hotels/buildings [basically metres from a runway], do they throw away the rule book or how do these get assessed ie only if not under any current or future flight path?
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CharlSx wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:03 pm

I’ve seen you post the RTCC being lifted and there being a lot going on behind the scenes. Is there any sort of realistic time line for this or is it more so the question of how long is a piece of string.

If/when we see the RTCC lifted would you expect to see an influx of 150+ proposals made?
Timeframe is unclear, but discussions are progressing well. In the location of 75 King William, the PANS-OPS isn't much higher than RTCC. Adjustment to the RTCC would help a lot on the east side of the city, but have minimal effect on the west side where the PANS-OPS governs.

Given that all of the recent large developments have been built up to the RTCC and some (probably all) would have chosen to go taller if they could have, it is logical to assume that future developments will go taller if the RTCC is adjusted to allow it.
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The Advertiser wrote:Global hotel group Wyndham will operate a new luxury hotel in the heart of Adelaide as part of a $150m tower development.

Wyndham Grand Adelaide, to be built at the former Adelaide Metro information centre site on the corner of King William and Currie streets, will include 347 rooms, an infinity pool, day spa, fitness centre, rooftop restaurant and sky bar facing the Adelaide Hills.

At 34 storeys, or 120 metres, it will become one of the city’s tallest hotels, and the first Wyndham Grand branded hotel in Australia.

Demolition of the former Adelaide Metro building is expected to commence in the second half of next year, with the hotel planned to open in 2024.

Wyndham Hotels & Resorts Asia Pacific president Joon Aun Ooi said the “upper-upscale” hotel would feature a modern interior design with green walls, marble fixtures and plush furnishings, while floor-to-ceiling windows would offer views across the city.

“The South Australian capital has been experiencing a surge of investment, with new infrastructure projects such as the expansion of Adelaide Airport, the revamp of the Adelaide Oval, and now, the creation of one of the city’s tallest hotels,” he said.

“Wyndham Grand is known for its iconic locations, so I can think of no better way to introduce the brand to Australia.”

In 2018 the State Commission Assessment Panel approved plans for a 132 metre tower at the site, initially designed to incorporate a hotel, apartments, retail outlets and offices.

Architect and development manager Guava Lime later completed a redesign of the project, removing the apartments, offices and retail components.

“We did a complete review of the building late last year and that review centred around the pre-sale of apartments and also how it might work as a mixed-use building versus a pure hotel,” Guava Lime director Michael Loucas said.

“The building is a much more simple proposition now and it won’t get caught up in things such as pre-sales or pre-leasing which is notoriously hard with offices – it takes out the risk.”

Mr Loucas dismissed any concerns about the impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on international travel given it would be close to four years before the hotel’s opening.

“We’re finding more forward thinking clients are thinking beyond the current narrative and looking to the future.”

Developer, Sydney-based Equinox Property, said the Wyndham Grand brand was the “perfect fit” for the development.

“With its prime position and impressive stature, this hotel will become a new symbol of prosperity for the city of Adelaide.”
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120 metres?

Was hoping for something that’s challenge the height of Adelaidian. Looks great otherwise. These are the first proper renders we have.
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So the entire thing will be a hotel now? Wow, brave move! But it will also speed up the process and will hopefully ensure that it doesn't take as long to get started as the Sofitel development.
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That site should be a 40 to 50 storey

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citywatcher wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:32 pm
That site should be a 40 to 50 storey

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For this size block? a 50 storey tower would be all lift core and no building!

I don't feel like we lose anything if this is 120m. I never really felt this thing was likely to get up, so whatever we get feels like a bonus to me.

Getting a wyndham is a good get btw. Hopefully they take enough of the market that the new Hyatt dumpy piece of crap never gets up
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Algernon wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:47 pm
citywatcher wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:32 pm
That site should be a 40 to 50 storey

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For this size block? a 50 storey tower would be all lift core and no building!

I don't feel like we lose anything if this is 120m. I never really felt this thing was likely to get up, so whatever we get feels like a bonus to me.

Getting a wyndham is a good get btw. Hopefully they take enough of the market that the new Hyatt dumpy piece of crap never gets up
Well, let's hope it spurs on the developers of 51 Pirie Street to go back to a 114 metre tower and put Hyatt in line with Sofitel and Wyndham.

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The projects Guava Lime have been involved with generally haven't mucked about, so that gives confidence this will get up.

The article mentions opening is still four years off, which would seem to suggest this won't start until late next year at the earliest. Could be interesting sight on KWS if Southern Cross is underway at the same time.
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Has anyone seen the plans as I am curious if there is car parking and/or a drop off/pick up area for taxis/buses/vehicles ie a Porte cochere?
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