News & Discussion: O-Bahn

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Re: News & Discussion: O-Bahn

#1561 Post by VLtom » Tue Aug 17, 2021 8:09 pm

Worth noting that various designs for the Golden Grove upgrade 2 have been put up on DIT's Facebook, good to see bus jump lanes as part of the upgrade, which at least can't hurt https://www.facebook.com/DFITSA/posts/194322642722483

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#1562 Post by Spotto » Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:57 am

Seems like they could’ve taken the opportunity to remove the dog-leg intersection at Grenfell Road given the large nature strip surrounding the roads. Yes it would require some excavation on the western side, but it’s feasible. The intersection at Milne Road would be more complex due to the creek that runs beneath the western side to the nearby lake and the ambulance station on the eastern side, but why not remove that one while they’re at it as well?

GGR is a significant thoroughfare and even though buses are getting priority they’ll potential still have to tackle four intersections where there could instead be only two. Judging by the comments on the Facebook post some people would’ve liked the money go to duplicating GGR from Grenfell Road to The Grove Way.

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#1563 Post by VLtom » Wed Aug 18, 2021 9:58 pm

The point I suppose that Golden Road upgrade stage 2 has a very limited scope, the entire point of the project is to add bus jump lanes, not spend 10s of millions on intersection realignment. It's primarily to increase the reliability and speed of the J1, J2, 548 and the G40, although I would hope that for all this Golden Grove road is actually made a Go-Zone on the go-zone map, as it's a shame it's missing still. This much investment in bus infra. needs to be followed by the service increase.

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#1564 Post by ChillyPhilly » Fri Aug 20, 2021 7:32 am

A costly mistake to not remove the two doglegs, as discussed. While this an improvement over current circumstances, it's a half-assed Liberal project.
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#1565 Post by Nort » Fri Aug 20, 2021 8:14 am

Possibly, but do we know how much traffic actually goes across that dog leg, as opposed to entering/exiting Golden Grove Road?

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#1566 Post by bits » Fri Aug 20, 2021 4:36 pm

There is significant traffic going through for Grenfell Road.
Milne Road is a lessor concern.

The dog leg for Grenfell hasn't made sense since the 00's when the traffic volume increased that the turn with care for left and right turns in all directions was removed.

This terrible "2x T intersections allows for turn with care" traffic management idea was built for the intersection in the 80's when Wynn Vale was built out and Golden Grove was starting. Prior the road was straight.
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#1567 Post by SBD » Tue Aug 24, 2021 9:25 am

Dog leg intersections are quite common to help drivers on the crossing road realise that there is an intersection rather than being dazzled by oncoming headlights and flying through a stop/give way sign without noticing.

Perhaps the dog leg should have been removed when the traffic lights were added, or would sight lines make it hard to see the lights too?

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Re: News & Discussion: O-Bahn

#1568 Post by Spotto » Fri Aug 27, 2021 9:47 pm

A concept art video showing the new bus priority lanes. The bus model has the correct (though old) YellowMet livery but it has an SEQ Translink logo on the front for some reason.

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#1569 Post by Eurostar » Sat Aug 28, 2021 12:59 pm

Spotto wrote:
Fri Aug 27, 2021 9:47 pm
A concept art video showing the new bus priority lanes. The bus model has the correct (though old) YellowMet livery but it has an SEQ Translink logo on the front for some reason.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSCodP6 ... hAustralia
Wish Torrens Transit was getting Volgren body buses rather than the Craptech body buses.

The busway tunnel in Brisbane would work well under Grenfell Street and Currie Street.

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#1570 Post by PeFe » Sat Aug 28, 2021 2:13 pm

We don't need a bus tunnel under Grenfell/Currie !

Let's turn Grenfell/Currie into a transit mall.....buses and service vehicles and taxis only, an above ground solution.

And it's probably $300 million cheaper than a bus tunnel !

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#1571 Post by Saltwater » Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:07 am

An east-west bus tunnel across the city is a wonderful idea. Regardless of how bus-friendly Curry and Grenfell Streets are, the fact remains there is still traffic trying to move north-south, which means multiple intersections buses need to stop at. A bus tunnel could take buses off the o-bahn, move people quickly across the city, then out the other side to the western suburbs and airport.

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Re: News & Discussion: O-Bahn

#1572 Post by PeFe » Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:27 pm

Smart validators for Metrocards and credit cards are coming for O-Bahn buses.
Introducing new smart validators
13 Jan 2022
With the aim of making public transport simpler, safer and easier to use, we’re updating our ticketing system in stages.

We started with a ‘pilot’ stage, when we introduced tap and pay on trams so you could pay with Visa, Mastercard or your smart device.

Now, we’re in the second stage of the upgrade, which means we’re replacing the end-of-life validators on trams and O-Bahn buses with smart validators.

At first, the smart validators will only accept metroCARDs. From mid-2022, they’ll accept metroCARDs plus Visa and Mastercard payments.

During this stage of the upgrade, there will be different types of validators available on board.

O-Bahn buses will accept metroCARD and MetroTicket payments.
Trams will accept metroCARD, MetroTicket and credit card payments (Visa and Mastercard).
You will still be able to validate a paper MetroTicket on all Adelaide Metro vehicles (but you cannot purchase MetroTickets on board buses, which are cashless).
You will still be able to tap and pay with your Visa or Mastercard on trams, as the existing Tap and Pay pilot validator will stay where it is.
If you choose to pay for your tram fare with a Visa or MasterCard, you will be charged for one regular metroCARD fare (peak or off-peak) and can transfer between trams for two hours.

If you need to transfer to a different service, or travel with a concession fare, tap and pay may not be your best fare option. Use our fare finder to learn more about Adelaide Metro fares or call the Adelaide Metro InfoLine on 1300 311 108 (open 7am-8pm daily) for more information.

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Re: News & Discussion: O-Bahn

#1573 Post by SRW » Thu Jan 13, 2022 10:06 pm

Would love for Metrocard to be available within Apple Wallet and similar too.
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Re: News & Discussion: O-Bahn

#1574 Post by bits » Fri Jan 14, 2022 12:12 am

Can a parent use these validators to purchase a ticket for themself and their children?

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Re: News & Discussion: O-Bahn

#1575 Post by Spotto » Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:39 am

bits wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 12:12 am
Can a parent use these validators to purchase a ticket for themself and their children?
Say that again but slower...

Validators don’t sell tickets, they... validate tickets. Shocking revelation, I know :lol:

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