Most of us can only hopeynotsfables wrote:Is it possible these renders are merely a concept at this stage as mentioned on the news article as an artists impression? may be there are other designs possibly coming?
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Most of us can only hopeynotsfables wrote:Is it possible these renders are merely a concept at this stage as mentioned on the news article as an artists impression? may be there are other designs possibly coming?
In any circumstance, a person is of-course entitled to an opinion. I don't think these buildings are fantastic, I don't by any means; but some of the commentary on this thread regarding the design suggest that it's possibly the worst design ever put forward in this city, which is certainly isn't. And yet, a number of people commenting their disapproval for this proposal are the same people who have voiced their overwhelming support for proposals such as 152-186 Grote St and 176-189 Morphett St which as far as I'm concerned hold far less design merit than these two buildings.slenderman wrote:Where did that assumption come from? Is what you're saying that this design is acceptable because none of us are paid big bucks to be architects?Patrick_27 wrote:Based on the level of complaint on this thread, am I to understand that the majority of you are professional architects? If so, where are your ground-breaking concepts?
That's akin to not being allowed to dislike a movie because I couldn't produce a better one, criticise a sportsman's poor performance because I couldn't play better or send back a terrible restaurant meal because I couldn't cook that meal myself?
With all due respect, you seem to be alone in liking these buildings, so maybe you could elaborate more on what we're all missing? Just because Adelaide doesn't have excellent architectural standards, that does not mean that we should not demand these higher standards. This is a development forum where we evaluate the positives and negatives of urban planning/design, rather than just blindly accept whatever is built/implemented/proposed. We care about how our built environment looks. We take pride in the place where we work, rest and play, and want to build things that enhance the urban environment, rather than detract from it/do nothing. We are not being negative for the sake of it, but because we care and want the absolute best for our city.
A site as prominent as this, in the heart of the city and next to one of our most beautiful heritage buildings deserves a top-notch building standing next to it to complement our inner city and the GPO building. While we like the ground-level amenities, the tower design is bland, boxy and unoriginal. As some have said, throw in some curves or angles to these buildings for example, something that sets it apart from other buildings in the city. Maybe not everyone is the best at coming up with ideas, but we know good ones when we see them.
A lot of people loved that Hames Sharley design for the Balfours/Precinct buildings with the upwards twist and connection at the top because it was audacious and unique, something we don't have in Adelaide, not some dime-a-dozen Lego box you can find on any street like these two buildings are. We've seen those before. They're mediocre. Examples: Coglin Place, Urbanest. Perhaps it's time we start learning from the mistakes of some other buildings in this city, rather than repeating them?
I appreciate the fact that not every building in our city can be an architectural masterpiece and that's absolutely fine, but surely you can see the difference between this site and some random site on say Currie Street?
You don't have to be an architect to have a stake in our built environment. We're all stakeholders in our environment. You may find that what attracts people to this site is the enormous potential that Adelaide has to be a jewel in the small city crown, and a passion to see that potential realised. Sadly this dynamic sometimes clashes with some planners and developers whose only vision is profit. But we're getting there in fits and starts, and the odd architectural treasure pops up now and again. Be great if that was the default though.Patrick_27 wrote:Based on the level of complaint on this thread, am I to understand that the majority of you are professional architects? If so, where are your ground-breaking concepts?
You find the proposed buildings interesting?Patrick_27 wrote:Based on the level of complaint on this thread, am I to understand that the majority of you are professional architects? If so, where are your ground-breaking concepts?
So not happpening then at least not for 5 to 10 years[Shuz] wrote:The major tenants would be... Government.
As much as we're all complaining about the design - there's probably little chance it'll even come to fruition. Our economy is in the shits. CBD commercial vacancy rates are still quite high and unemployment is at 8.2% ( ABS ). I can't foresee any big business needing even... 10,000sqm - let alone 36,000sqm of office space in the city in the current market conditions.
Design brief: the client wants a building that looks like a pile of flattened cardboard boxes.Pants wrote:Nice job, H1ghlifie, but yeah, blame the developers not the architects.
Hassell's more than capable of coming up with interesting designs:
They're only as good as their design and costing brief from the developers though.
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