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Re: News & Discussion: Cycling

#436 Post by Waewick » Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:49 pm

whatstheirnamesmom wrote:Drivers' month proponent wants car commuters to guide the city’s cycling network - CityMag

Some pretty shocking comments coming out of the Team Adelaide faction of Adelaide City Council today…
Councillor Jessy Khera, responsible for last year’s contentious drivers’ month, said the council should “explicitly state” they were “engaging people who drive” in the development of the network, “because they are obviously the most immediately impacted along with people who cycle.”

Khera, aligned with the Team Adelaide majority voting bloc, also told the chamber it would be a “dangerous path” for the council to recommend the health benefits of cycling, likening it to “social engineering”.

“If we’re putting out messaging that — what we’re doing is we want to shunt you off your car and put you on a bike because that’s good for you… It really has an echo of Stalinist, kind of, Orwellian, ‘We’re going to whip you onto the bike and make you exercise’, kind of stuff,” he said.
I am not holding my breath for any good cycling outcomes in the CBD under this term of council… bring on November 2022 Image
Is this guy still in Uni?

I've heard some stupid stuff lately but far out, this takes the cake.

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Re: News & Discussion: Cycling

#437 Post by Norman » Sat Jan 22, 2022 1:54 pm

The bike and pedestrian overpass at Goodwood Station has been submitted for development approval.

The design features a spiral ramp on the northern end and lifts to both the platforms at Goodwood Station. There are also stairs at either end of the overpass, but unfortunately none to the station platforms.

The aim of the project is to finally complete the Mike Tutor Bikeway and provide DDA-compliant access to Goodwood Station.

The property at 32 Devon Street has been acquired and will be demolished to accommodate the ramp.

You can view the documents here: https://plan.sa.gov.au/__data/assets/pd ... Turtur.pdf

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#438 Post by ChillyPhilly » Sat Jan 22, 2022 2:30 pm

Brilliant! It's a big missed opportunity to not have some form of connectivity between the tram corridor and Goodwood railway station.
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Re: News & Discussion: Cycling

#439 Post by whatstheirnamesmom » Mon Feb 14, 2022 3:36 pm

Positive signs from City of Charles Sturt, who are in the final stages of designing a redeveloped Chief Street.

After community consultation, they have opted to pursue an off-road bike path on the eastern side of the street.
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You can access the full update here: https://www.yoursaycharlessturt.com.au/ ... cO60lahQpA

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Re: News & Discussion: Cycling

#440 Post by Norman » Mon Feb 14, 2022 4:28 pm

Fantastic, a good outcome for Chief Street. Luckily there is plenty of space to put this all in!

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Re: News & Discussion: Cycling

#441 Post by whatstheirnamesmom » Thu Feb 17, 2022 8:25 am

DIT have just released the draft version of the 2022-2032 Cycling Strategy for South Australia and are seeking community feedback

Download a copy of the strategy here: https://dit.sa.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf ... 022022.pdf

And view the interactive map of proposed projects here: https://dpti.geohub.sa.gov.au/portal/ho ... e955564efa

And visit the project page: https://dit.sa.gov.au/cycling?fbclid=Iw ... ho89Y3sawI


Couple of cursory notes:
- I am surprised at the number of separated bikeways proposed
- an east-west bikeway along Wakefield and Grote is nice to see
- Disappointed that nothing is proposed for the northern half of King William Street, despite having heard otherwise that some kind of facilities were planned. I use this section almost every day.
- interested to see how they will pull off the Fourth Creek bikeway
- much greater north-south-east-west coverage of safe cycling routes. But beyond those cardinal directions, but disappointed that whole chunks of north-east, south-west, north-west and south-east suburbs seemingly miss out. (lived in Hectorville for a while and there is still no safe and practical route to get to work. Facilities on Glynburn or Payneham would have fixed that)
- A connection going north near the Botanic Gardens is very welcome
- Bit disappointed that many outer suburbs aren’t getting much in the way of new treatments/upgrades

Overall though, some good signs and am pleased that DIT really DO think about non-car infrastructure..!

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Re: News & Discussion: Cycling

#442 Post by Nathan » Thu Feb 17, 2022 10:03 am

Don't have time for a deep dive right now, but from a quick glance at the map:

It appears nothing is planned for the Frome St bikeway north of North Tce. All the parts along Frome Rd are marked as "existing".

Also nothing planned about fixing the major pain point of the linear path not having proper connections to the rest of the city. They really really should address the connection at the Frome Road / Victoria Drive intersection, which at the moment is still a flight of stairs.

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Re: News & Discussion: Cycling

#443 Post by Llessur2002 » Fri May 20, 2022 2:28 pm

Nathan wrote:
Thu Feb 17, 2022 10:03 am
Don't have time for a deep dive right now, but from a quick glance at the map:

It appears nothing is planned for the Frome St bikeway north of North Tce. All the parts along Frome Rd are marked as "existing".
Hold your horses there young/old man/lady!

I've just noticed these signs near Botanic High:

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The website shown on the sign still shows this as Design Under Consideration but if we're to believe our corflute friend construction is imminent (not that I've seen any evidence of it).

Fair enough it's only a short stretch but at least it's something. I've been exiled to an office on Frome Road now so am very keen to see the whole shebang up and running...

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#444 Post by Nathan » Fri May 20, 2022 3:42 pm

I had noticed that, but haven't been able to find much info about it despite it supposed to have being started nearly 2 months ago.

My guess it's just widening the footpath along here and spray painting some bike symbols occasionally, which would not be ideal. Going south along Frome Rd is awful with pedestrians constantly walking in the lane, and that's supposed to be dedicated. A narrow shared path going north, isn't going to benefit anyone (and could potentially worse as it'll spit riders back into traffic right at the pinch point of the bridge.)
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Re: News & Discussion: Cycling

#445 Post by NTRabbit » Mon May 23, 2022 1:53 am

Nathan wrote:
Fri May 20, 2022 3:42 pm
I had noticed that, but haven't been able to find much info about it despite it supposed to have being started nearly 2 months ago.

My guess it's just widening the footpath along here and spray painting some bike symbols occasionally, which would not be ideal. Going south along Frome Rd is awful with pedestrians constantly walking in the lane, and that's supposed to be dedicated. A narrow shared path going north, isn't going to benefit anyone (and could potentially worse as it'll spit riders back into traffic right at the pinch point of the bridge.)

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I've been told by a reliable source that Frome Rd is (at least currently) planned to drop to 1 car lane each way with no on-street parking between the River and North Tce to accommodate the North-South Bikeway, so it's more than just a widened footpath with painted symbols.

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Re: News & Discussion: Cycling

#446 Post by ChillyPhilly » Mon May 23, 2022 12:53 pm

NTRabbit wrote:
Nathan wrote:
Fri May 20, 2022 3:42 pm
I had noticed that, but haven't been able to find much info about it despite it supposed to have being started nearly 2 months ago.

My guess it's just widening the footpath along here and spray painting some bike symbols occasionally, which would not be ideal. Going south along Frome Rd is awful with pedestrians constantly walking in the lane, and that's supposed to be dedicated. A narrow shared path going north, isn't going to benefit anyone (and could potentially worse as it'll spit riders back into traffic right at the pinch point of the bridge.)

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I've been told by a reliable source that Frome Rd is (at least currently) planned to drop to 1 car lane each way with no on-street parking between the River and North Tce to accommodate the North-South Bikeway, so it's more than just a widened footpath with painted symbols.
That would be fantastic.

Nathan is right about the current eastern path.
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Re: News & Discussion: Cycling

#447 Post by mattwinter » Wed May 17, 2023 10:51 am

Consultation has just opened for the next section of the Flinders Greenway between Tonsley and the Seaford Train Line / Marino Rocks Greenway.

https://www.makingmarion.com.au/flinder ... way-stage3

Really disappointing to see this turn into a mess of bike lanes and shared roads, rather than see them working to find a solution to keep the greenway along the Flinders trainline.

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Re: News & Discussion: Cycling

#448 Post by Nathan » Wed May 17, 2023 12:14 pm

mattwinter wrote:
Wed May 17, 2023 10:51 am
Consultation has just opened for the next section of the Flinders Greenway between Tonsley and the Seaford Train Line / Marino Rocks Greenway.

https://www.makingmarion.com.au/flinder ... way-stage3

Really disappointing to see this turn into a mess of bike lanes and shared roads, rather than see them working to find a solution to keep the greenway along the Flinders trainline.
Do the people who design these greenways actually ride a bike? The maze of sharrows through backstreets is always awful and just ensures cyclists avoid it and take an alternative route — commuters and road cyclists just switch to the closest arterial road, and families with kids just end up on the footpath.

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Re: News & Discussion: Cycling

#449 Post by whatstheirnamesmom » Tue Jun 13, 2023 3:34 pm

Bike SA: Two New City Cycleways on the Cards in Main Street Makeovers

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O’Connell and Hutt streets would both be transformed by the installation of separated and protected cycleways along most of their lengths under proposed concept plans drawn up by the City of Adelaide.

The concept plans, prepared in April of this year, are part of the City of Adelaide’s Main Streets Reviltalisation Program, and are still subject to further changes and refinement before any potential implementation.

Hutt Street key points:

· Separate and dedicated cycle paths would be installed from South Terrace to Wakefield Street.

· A 30km/h speed limit is being considered in the southern extent of Hutt Street.

· Raised and continuous footpaths and cycle paths would be installed across driveways, minor side streets and laneways.

· More opportunities would exist for pedestrians and cyclists to cross Hutt Street via increased crossing points and two raised wombat crossings.

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In a significant upgrade to the current public realm, concept images show cycle paths, physically separated from traffic and the footpath by kerbs and greenery, which allow two people to comfortably ride abreast to access shops, cafes, and other businesses.

With the reallocation, in some sections of the street, of a lane of traffic in each direction to allow for parallel parking, vehicles would utilise one lane of travel in each direction instead of the two (plus angled parking) used currently.

Coupled with traffic-calming features and the proposed 30km/h speed limit for the southern section of the street, this could be the reinvigoration of Hutt Street that residents, traders and visitors alike have been asking for.

The Hutt Street plan recognises that “…the street’s function as key road linking into the CBD for peak hour traffic with multiple lanes and waves of through traffic adversely impacts pedestrian experience, access and health.”

“Coupled with angle parking and unindented bus stops, the road environment also poses a hazardous environment for even the more experienced people cycling.” it states.

Bicycle SA supports these concept designs and aims to work with the City of Adelaide to achieve the best possible outcome for all riders.

“This type of transformation to Hutt Street will do wonders for increased activity and trade along this prominent city corridor,” Bicycle SA CEO Brett Gillett said.

“We know that reallocating public space in this way can be a boon for business while creating a safer, calmer environment that people feel comfortable to cross on a bike or on foot. And when people stay and enjoy a precinct, they are more likely to spend money at local businesses.”

“This also makes great strides towards expanding Adelaide's cycling network, making Hutt Street another piece of the puzzle linking up safe cycling routes that enable people to get where they need to go in a healthy, active way.”

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O’Connell Street key points:

· Protected cycle paths would be installed from Brougham Place to Main North Road.

· A 30km/h speed limit is being considered along the entire street.

· 17 raised and continuous footpaths would be installed across driveways, minor side streets and laneways.

· A planted median strip would add greenery and act as an allowance for a future tram service.

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O’Connell Street would finally cater to those wanting to cycle down the popular North Adelaide strip to access shopping, retail and leisure opportunities. Currently, O’Connell Street has no bicycle lanes and many riders traveling north-south through the area need to divert to find safer routes through the Park Lands.

The concept plan notes that “Cycling along O’Connell Street at present is unsafe as people cycling share the road with high volumes of vehicles. There is no provision for cycling (no cycle lanes) and people cycling must do so with moving vehicles on their right and parked vehicles, and the risk of dooring, on their left.”

The ‘protected’ cycleways would add dedicated space for riders to pedal along, although won’t be quite as separated as much of the cycleway proposed for Hutt Street. Concept images show the use of spaced concrete buffers and bollards of an unknown material separating the cycle path from the lane used for motor vehicle travel in peak times and car parking in the off-peak.

40km/h is the current average speed at which vehicles travel along O’Connell Street, and with the suggested reduction in speed limit to 30km/h – representing an almost negligible reduction in travel time for motorists – along with the other traffic-calming features proposed, O’Connell Street has an opportunity to revitalise itself as an attractive place to visit, shop and eat.

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“As with the Hutt Street plan, we are quietly hopeful that these plans will be realised and are encouraged to see provision of safer cycling options along our city streets,” Brett Gillett said.

“O’Connell Street has long been a notorious ‘gap’ in our city’s cycling network, especially for those in our inner-northern suburbs who would love to visit North Adelaide more often or to travel through safely on their way to the CBD.”

“A protected cycleway and a lower speed limit would be transformative for this street, allowing it to become a safe and pleasant place to cycle, walk, and spend time and money.”

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The concept plans, along with concept plans for Melbourne and Hindley Streets, are unlikely to progress until the City of Adelaide Draft 2023/2024 Business Plan and Budget is finalised. The first street to be upgraded is so far undecided, with the priority yet to be determined for the four streets identified in the Main Streets Revitalisation Program.

Public consultation of the current plans has not yet been opened or announced, but Bicycle SA will keep our members updated and encourages people to have their say when the time comes.

The concept plans are available on the City of Adelaide website.

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