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#451 Post by jk1237 » Thu Aug 05, 2010 4:19 pm

Im a bit lost. This faces Franklin St doesn't it. It almost appears that the ground work is including the cancelled Spire site on Bentham St. Am I looking at it wrong

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#452 Post by Xaragmata » Thu Aug 05, 2010 4:55 pm

jk1237 wrote:Im a bit lost. This faces Franklin St doesn't it. It almost appears that the ground work is including the cancelled Spire site on Bentham St. Am I looking at it wrong
Not too wrong, but it doesn't include the Spire site. It faces Franklin, Post Office Place & Bentham, with the Darling Building remaining on the corner of
Franklin & Bentham. Looks like my observation about the substation is wrong, & that will be demolished.

Floor plans & renders are here: http://www.adelaidecitycentral.com.au/tower-eight.php

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#453 Post by metro » Thu Aug 05, 2010 5:27 pm

i wonder why on the city central site they have one design and on the architects website they have another...

http://www.adelaidecitycentral.com.au/tower-eight.php

http://www.woodsbagot.com/en/Pages/City ... ower8.aspx

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#454 Post by shaun » Thu Aug 05, 2010 7:13 pm

The renders on the ACC website are old and were probably uploaded when they had control of developments over $10 million.

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#455 Post by ozisnowman » Fri Aug 06, 2010 12:25 pm

Yuk just another fat stumpy glass box... What is it with Adelaide and this fixation on stubby looking buildings.

Both CC8 the SA Water Building and not to mention CC1 could have been slimmer and taller and could have had
a better architectural design that would have had an impact on the Skyline rather we get bland stumpy looking
glass boxes. As much as i blame the ACC for this i think the developers are just as much to blame by trying to
save money with these boring not so high buildings.

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#456 Post by Isiskii » Fri Aug 06, 2010 12:36 pm

Oz,
It's not just all the developer's nor the ACC's fault. Truth is, some of the blame is upon the companies themselves who in this day and age have a preference for larger floorplates across a smaller number of levels, rather than smaller floorplates across several levels. It's all ergonomics, far easier to walk down the corridor and send the papers to your colleagues who share an office on the same level than have to wait for the lift and walk another corridor on different levels - although, with increasing reliance on technology, this 'ideaology' may very well become another fad of the past.

This is why we get short stumpy looking buildings. not tall slender towers.

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#457 Post by Nort » Fri Aug 06, 2010 1:25 pm

There is also the fact that Adelaide has a massive CBD and so land is cheaper.

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#458 Post by Prince George » Fri Aug 06, 2010 1:45 pm

Isiskii wrote:It's not just all the developer's nor the ACC's fault. Truth is, some of the blame is upon the companies themselves who in this day and age have a preference for larger floorplates across a smaller number of levels, rather than smaller floorplates across several levels. It's all ergonomics, far easier to walk down the corridor and send the papers to your colleagues who share an office on the same level than have to wait for the lift and walk another corridor on different levels - although, with increasing reliance on technology, this 'ideaology' may very well become another fad of the past.

This is why we get short stumpy looking buildings. not tall slender towers.
While that is true, this is enabled by the ACC's choice to (1) allow multiple plots to be unified together into a single monolithic development, and (2) allow building out to the full width of the plot for the entire height of the building. And these choices were lobbied for by the developers through their proxy, the Property Council. As for the ergonomics, organisational behaviour research regularly shows that even in large organisations people operate in groups of only 20-50; so I would imagine the imagined need for multiple hundreds of people on a single floor is actually limited. Similarly, there is plenty of evidence that higher levels of natural light are better both for people's health and productivity, and large floorplates work against that.

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#459 Post by Omicron » Fri Aug 06, 2010 5:25 pm

Xaragmata wrote:
jk1237 wrote:Im a bit lost. This faces Franklin St doesn't it. It almost appears that the ground work is including the cancelled Spire site on Bentham St. Am I looking at it wrong
Not too wrong, but it doesn't include the Spire site. It faces Franklin, Post Office Place & Bentham, with the Darling Building remaining on the corner of
Franklin & Bentham. Looks like my observation about the substation is wrong, & that will be demolished.

Floor plans & renders are here: http://www.adelaidecitycentral.com.au/tower-eight.php
On a side note, the former Spire site is tiny.

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#460 Post by Xaragmata » Tue Aug 17, 2010 1:36 am

Pics from Wednesday - pile of earth has since been removed, & excavation is deeper ...

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#461 Post by Xaragmata » Sat Sep 04, 2010 4:01 pm

From late August - form work for ground floor:

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#462 Post by iTouch » Sat Sep 04, 2010 11:49 pm

I gotta say, Waymouth St is so sexy.
Don't burn the Adelaide Parkland (preservation society)

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#463 Post by Xaragmata » Mon Sep 06, 2010 4:06 pm

From last week - excavation continues, ground floor poured in Post Office Place

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#464 Post by Xaragmata » Sun Sep 12, 2010 2:06 am


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#465 Post by Ben » Thu Sep 30, 2010 2:20 pm

Cranage time :)
Type: Application Assessed on Merit
Application Number: DA/66/2008/2/C
Lodgement Date: 29/09/2010
Location: 12-26 Franklin Street, ADELAIDE SA 5000
Description: Vary previous authorisation to demolish existing structures on the land (excluding the Darling Building) and construct a 20 level office building(with plant room on 20th level) with ground floor retail tenancy space and Australia Post sorting facility - VARIATION - internal and external changes - STAGE 2 - SUB-STRUCTURE

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