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Re: Mawson Lakes - Not just another suburb

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 4:25 pm
by shaun
AtD wrote:Thanks for that Will. Even when I was last there, many of those buildings were complete or in various stages of construction.

I'd like to add some of those to the projects map, but obviously three levels is not that significant. Do you think five levels is a good cut off?
I think 5 levels is a good cut off for the suburbs

Re: Mawson Lakes - Not just another suburb

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 5:55 pm
by Will409
crawf wrote:You could be right about Parafield Airport, though the RAAF base is nowhere near Mawson Lakes
While I havn't really seen any good over head shots of Parafield airport, I know that there are a couple of runways on an angle so the planes fly really close overhead between Parafield Gardens and Greenfields railway stations when on take off. When I say close, I mean it in that I have been able to see the rivets on the under belly of the planes! There is also a full length run way from north to south.

The RAAF base is a good 5-7kms north of Mawson Lakes so there is no chance of 'having a peak of the run way' unless you had a 30+ storey building.

Re: Mawson Lakes - Not just another suburb

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:39 am
by Will
AtD wrote:Thanks for that Will. Even when I was last there, many of those buildings were complete or in various stages of construction.

I'd like to add some of those to the projects map, but obviously three levels is not that significant. Do you think five levels is a good cut off?
As Crawf has mentioned, I think that for the suburbs, 5 levels is a good cut-off.

Re: Mawson Lakes - Not just another suburb

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 10:01 pm
by AtD
Cool. That means I need to add Fusion 5 and 310 Hurtle. Are either under construction?

Re: Mawson Lakes - Not just another suburb

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 9:23 am
by Will
AtD wrote:Cool. That means I need to add Fusion 5 and 310 Hurtle. Are either under construction?
Unfortunately I can't confirm that for you, as I rarely ever go to Mawson Lakes.

However there are at-least 2 other 5 level buildings in Mawson lakes that I am aware of:

A'Era Apartments in Euston Walk:

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and HMH Tower at 48 Garden Terrace:

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Re: Mawson Lakes - Not just another suburb

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 10:50 am
by AtD
Edgar wrote:I think 10, or maybe 7 or 8. 5 is definitely insignificant.
You can filter the list & map to 'highrise only' which only displays anything over 10 levels or 40m from memory.

Will, I've added those three as Proposed. I already have A'Era as u/c. Cheers.

Re: Mawson Lakes - Not just another suburb

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 1:18 pm
by urban
It is good to see so many of these proposals having a high percentage of active street frontage. At this rate Mawson Lakes should turn out to be our best large scale suburban development. Hopefully the developers of Cheltenham adopt a similar approach.

Re: Mawson Lakes - Not just another suburb

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 2:46 pm
by Will
More!


Lot 101; Mawson Lakes Boulevard: (U/C)

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Lot 349 Metro Parade:

This stunning new office development to be built on Metro Parade, is close to all Public Transport and has the following features:

• 2 Level office building featuring 2550 square metres of net lettable area
• 92 car Parks On site
• State of the art building services and finishes
• 5 Star green rating
• Naming Rights and Signage opportunities
• Smaller tenancies will be considered e.g 400m2
• Suit Defence Support Service Providers, IT Companies, Call Centre or Mining Company
• Good access to Port Adelaide, Elizabeth and Barossa Valley

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MAWSON ON ELDER, Lot 33 Elder Drive:

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STUDIO 9, 18-22 HURTLE PARADE:

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SOUTHBRIDGE, LOT 338 GOODALL PARADE:

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Q COMMERCIAL, LOT 336 GOODALL PARADE:

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Images courtesy of: realcommercial.com.au

Re: Mawson Lakes - Not just another suburb

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 2:51 pm
by Will
Even more!


COMMERCIAL ONLY, Lot 343 Garden Terrace:

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METRO TOWERS, Lot 529 Metro Parade:

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courtesy of realcommercial.com.au

Re: Mawson Lakes - Not just another suburb

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 4:13 pm
by Shuz
wow i didnt realise so much was happening in mawson lakes for this sort of medium-density development. it certainly is a positive and encouraging approach to sustainable urban measures which should be implemented elsewhere, e.g: chentalham and in some retrospects already adopted in Port Adelaide, Glenelg and West lakes.

Re: Mawson Lakes - Not just another suburb

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 12:21 am
by Norman
I went past Lot 101 today, tiniest space for an apartment building I've ever seen.

Re: Mawson Lakes - Not just another suburb

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 12:52 pm
by thechap
Norman wrote:I went past Lot 101 today, tiniest space for an apartment building I've ever seen.
Amen to that. They definately cant be accused of wasting develop-able space in Mawson Lakes!

Re: Mawson Lakes - Not just another suburb

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:52 am
by bm7500
Here are some more pics of developments recently completed or underway at ML

Apartment Buildings

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UNI SA

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Mawson Lakes School

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Residential

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Re: Mawson Lakes - Not just another suburb

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:13 pm
by Burger
It may just be the tree-hugging hippy coming out in me but I reckon those last three photos are prime examples of why whoever is approving these places needs a kick in the pants. Eaves? Glazing! Room around the building for cooling vegetation?

I know there's the new Section J in the BCA that all commercial/public buildings have to comply with, but does that apply to residential?

I was involved in the development and opening of The Promenade and it was probably a leader at the time in terms of environmentally friendly design but it seems these considerations have not extended to the residential side of things.

Re: Mawson Lakes - Not just another suburb

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:34 pm
by urban
There are BCA requirements for residential buildings but the HIA was instrumental in ensuring that the scope was extremely narrow (ie thermal mass, daylighting, room for landscaping etc are excluded) and the requirements based on ensuring standard project homes could reach the requirements with minimal changes.

Rooftop views of new subdivisions are a depressing site. Acres of hot metal roofs with houses inefficiently sited on blocks excluding the possibility trees. Our whole approach to residential developments requires a massive overhaul. Unfortunately this is not going to happen while govt's of all persuasions take their advice from self interested industry lobby groups like the HIA.