FFA says Adelaide needs World Cup stadium

[adam_stuckey]

I can't believe ther SANFL is still harping on about games at AAMI and $190M where's this figure com from!!

It was let then 12 months ago Adelaide United put forward plans for a BRAND NEW not old and crusty stadium that would hold 40,000 and have everything the club would ever need (training facilities, hotel for away teams etc) and this would cost $240M and with the entertainment centre tramline there almost no need to build and transport infastructure unlike the $260M AAMI want to get a tramline down there.

Also I can't understand why people are saying "why build a stadium for one or two world cup games?" when obviously Adelaide United will play there all the time and hopefully in 2-3 seasons average 20,000 a game (which is as soon as this stadium can be completed), We then won't be losing Socceroos games to Canberra (Which i can't believe is happening!) and we can there attract wallaby games and big name European clubs who tour asia and usa every offseason.

If Adelaide had a 40,000 seater stadium I'm sure we would fill it 5-10 times a season (which is just as good as AAMI)

[Norman]

I do hope they don't build a multi-purpose stadium, the Telstra Dome is shit for soccer games. You're too far away from the action. Can we please keep AAMI for AFL and build a new soccer stadium somewhere near the city?

[Brando]

Without Adelaide and Perth, there will be no Australian FIFA World Cup

Come on crawf we all know Australia is the eastern seaboard only...

[Shuz]

16 stadia!?

If I do some rough math;

Adelaide 1
Perth 1
Sydney 2
Melbourne 2
Brisbane 2
Newcastle 1
Canberra 1
Gold Coast 1

Thats 11... if theyre thinking Townsville, Darwin, Tasmania, Geelong, Cairns, Rockhampton?

[Norman]

Hobart? Maybe even 1 or 2 in New Zealand?

[Prince George]

Hobart? Maybe even 1 or 2 in New Zealand?

About a month ago FIFA said that they wouldn't accept joint bids, so Spain-Portugal and Belgium-Luxemburg-Holland each pulled out.

And it isn't clear if the 16 grounds means 16 capable of hosting matches, or if it includes training facilities (although I would have thought the number would be even higher then, for 32 teams)

[Paulns]

I do hope they don't build a multi-purpose stadium, the Telstra Dome is shit for soccer games. You're too far away from the action. Can we please keep AAMI for AFL and build a new soccer stadium somewhere near the city?

Who says they have to model it on Telstra Dome?? I reckon a more ideal combination would be for a Multi Purpose stadium based on the retractable stands/seating of Sydneys Olympic Stadium (ANZ Stadium) and the retractable roof of Telsra Dome. A capacity of between 50 and 60,000 should be big enough for Adelaide. I think a stadium of 100,000 is a bit over the top for a city the size of Adelaide. Not even Sydney has a Stadium that big anymore.

[ricecrackers]

just build a 30 000 seat soccer stadium with an option to extend to 40 000 if we win the right to host the World Cup

it could be done for $300 million initially

dont let the SANFL anywhere near it


i'd be very surprised if AUFC didnt average ~25000 per week at a new CBD stadium

if the SANFL know whats good for them, they should call truce with the SACA and move back to Adelaide Oval.

keep the AAMI field and clubrooms for training and sell off all the surrounding land, knock down the stands and build apartments around the perimeter (like what they've done at Waverley)

[fasterthanlids]

just build a 30 000 seat soccer stadium with an option to extend to 40 000 if we win the right to host the World Cup

it could be done for $300 million initially

dont let the SANFL anywhere near it


i'd be very surprised if AUFC didnt average ~25000 per week at a new CBD stadium

if the SANFL know whats good for them, they should call truce with the SACA and move back to Adelaide Oval.

keep the AAMI field and clubrooms for training and sell off all the surrounding land, knock down the stands and build apartments around the perimeter (like what they've done at Waverley)

This would probably provide the best solution for all parties - SANFL and SACA work together to cover extra expenditure and gain extra revenue, AUFC don't end up with a ridiculously oversized stadium for its needs, the state government can say it is not sitting on its hands and we can all celebrate a little bit of development. It could even be put in a less desirable part of the city fringe to allow for future developments on higher profiles sites.

Perhaps such a stadium could be designed with footings already in place to easily allow for temporary seating too, in order to gain the shorter term benefits of Socceroo's, finals and exhibition games.

[Will]

just build a 30 000 seat soccer stadium with an option to extend to 40 000 if we win the right to host the World Cup

it could be done for $300 million initially

dont let the SANFL anywhere near it


i'd be very surprised if AUFC didnt average ~25000 per week at a new CBD stadium

if the SANFL know whats good for them, they should call truce with the SACA and move back to Adelaide Oval.

keep the AAMI field and clubrooms for training and sell off all the surrounding land, knock down the stands and build apartments around the perimeter (like what they've done at Waverley)

This would probably provide the best solution for all parties - SANFL and SACA work together to cover extra expenditure and gain extra revenue, AUFC don't end up with a ridiculously oversized stadium for its needs, the state government can say it is not sitting on its hands and we can all celebrate a little bit of development. It could even be put in a less desirable part of the city fringe to allow for future developments on higher profiles sites.

Perhaps such a stadium could be designed with footings already in place to easily allow for temporary seating too, in order to gain the shorter term benefits of Socceroo's, finals and exhibition games.

This is an excellent option. In fact I think this is the model that they are suing for the 2012 London Olympics.

[Paulns]

i'd be very surprised if AUFC didnt average ~25000 per week at a new CBD stadium

Really??? I love how people say that when Adelaide United could only pull a very average crowd of 8472 people for its Preliminary final match at Hindmarsh Stadium, on Sat, 21st of Feb. Barely 10 minutes drive from the CBD....

http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/stor ... 12,00.html

I think a better option would be for Adelaide United to keep Hindmarsh Stadium and use it as a training base and for low key matches that obviously don't pull large crowds and build a Multi Purpose stadium like Sydney's Olympic Stadium that can be configured to allow for marque Soccer (World Cup, Asian Champians League, Socceroos) and Rugby matches like, Wallabies, NRL games and large Stadium Concerts, ie the likes of U2.

[ricecrackers]

i'd be very surprised if AUFC didnt average ~25000 per week at a new CBD stadium

Really??? I love how people say that when Adelaide United could only pull a very average crowd of 8472 people for its Preliminary final match at Hindmarsh Stadium, on Sat, 21st of Feb. Barely 10 minutes drive from the CBD....

http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/stor ... 12,00.html

I think a better option would be for Adelaide United to keep its Hindmarsh base and use it as a training base and low key matches that obviously don't pull large crowds and build a Multi Purpose stadium like Sydney's Olympic Stadium that can be configured to allow for marque Soccer (World Cup, Asian Champians League, Socceroos) and Rugby matches like, Wallabies, NRL games and large Stadium Concerts, ie the likes of U2.

i love how people so arrogantly declare an opinion on something they know nothing about.

there were extenuating circumstances for that Preliminary final. if you had a clue, you'd realise that.

what you conveniently overlook is that that AU had 3 sellouts at Hindmarsh during the ACL, averaged ~12000 for the A-league season and has twice drawn over 23000 to Adelaide Oval despite its complete unsuitability for the sport and lack of any atmosphere.

multipurpose stadiums are a disaster when you have conflicting sports, and AFL and Soccer are at war. the state of the Telstra Dome surface throughout the A-league season is evidence of that.

[Wayno]

i'm betting 3 days before this conversation turns personal and gets locked by the mods...

[flavze]

Hobart? Maybe even 1 or 2 in New Zealand?

About a month ago FIFA said that they wouldn't accept joint bids, so Spain-Portugal and Belgium-Luxemburg-Holland each pulled out.

And it isn't clear if the 16 grounds means 16 capable of hosting matches, or if it includes training facilities (although I would have thought the number would be even higher then, for 32 teams)

Actually FIFA has accepted both them bids, there's no way a joint Aus NZ bid would go ahead as they are from differant confederations. Unless NZ joined the Asian federation but they don't want to do that.

[Wayno]

Bid Formally Lodged

http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/stor ... 28,00.html

AUSTRALIA has formally submitted its bid to host the 2018 or the 2022 World Cup.

Football Federation Australia, after announcing its intention to bid last month, confirmed Monday it had lodged its formal bid with world governing body FIFA. The deadline was Monday.

On the weekend, Indonesia and South Korea submitted their formal bids. The other countries that announced intentions to bid were Japan, England, Russia, Qatar, Mexico and the United States.

The FIFA executive will vote on both hosts in December 2010.

South Africa will host next year's World Cup and Brazil will host in 2014.

Five of the bidders have previously staged a World Cup - England in 1966; Mexico in 1970 and 1986; the United States in 1994; and South Korea and Japan as co-hosts in 2002.

Football Federation Australia spokesperson Bonita Mersiades told The Associated Press on Monday that FFA chairman Frank Lowy had personally delivered the bid to FIFA head Sepp Blatter in Zurich on Sunday.

"We are wanting to make this a truly national bid, one that includes all parts of Australia," Mersiades said.

She said while Australia will not fine-tune its choice of stadium locations until the end of this year, the cities being considered to host matches are Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Townsville, Gold Coast, Newcastle, Canberra, Adelaide, Perth, and the island state of Tasmania.

"We have a demonstrable track record in staging major sporting events," Mersiades said. "A World Cup event here would be trouble-free. And we have a country that people want to come and see."

Australia has twice hosted the rugby World Cup and staged the Olympics in Melbourne in 1956 and Sydney in 2000.

In December, the Australian government said it would commit $30 million to landing the World Cup.

The Asian Football Confederation, which Australia joined from Oceania after its second-round exit to eventual champion Italy at the 2006 World Cup, initially said it wanted one strong bid from the region so that it would get full backing from continental members. However, it did not discourage multiple bids and now the Asian vote could be divided between five candidates.