News & Discussion: O-Bahn

[iTouch]

Anyone have a route map yet?

i second this request - too many words, not enough pictures!

I third this request

[Kasey771]

Anyone have a route map yet?

i second this request - too many words, not enough pictures!

I third this request

+juan from me:)

[monotonehell]

Guys, the route hasn't changed since the inception of this project:
http://nationbuildingprogram.gov.au/pro ... 8-09SA-MIP

It's the same CBD route(s) as the OBahn buses follow now.

[AtD]

^^ That was just a placeholder, I thought.

[Wayno]

this map is from the link provided by mono above.

I thought there was discussion of the RED line going through the parklands? and what's the purple (ok, lilac) line represent?

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[monotonehell]

this map is from the link provided by mono above.

I thought there was discussion of the RED line going through the parklands? and what's the purple (ok, lilac) line represent?

obahn.JPG

Oh I thought it was just doing it for me. The purple line is an error, it's the Gawler line improvement, misplaced when you zoom in.

[Port Adelaide Fan]

O-Bahn plan blocked

PLANS to extend the O-Bahn have run into opposition from parklands advocates and city councillors.

The plans include extending the bridge over the River Torrens by 15m to the west, the removal of up to 560 trees and shrubs - 99 of which are classified as significant trees - and 1196 undersized amenity plants.

Road widenings along the length of Hackney Rd, Dequetteville Tce, Botanic Rd and Rundle Rd would also cut into the parklands by 1ha.

Councillor Anne Moran does not believe there are enough gains from the project. "This is not an extension of the O-Bahn, it's an extension of designated bus lanes," she said.

"I don't see the point of it at all because a part from the park lands it will mess up Grenfell St all to take 10 minutes off the trip."

In late 2007 the city council effectively blocked plans to build a permanent grandstand in Victoria Park.

Councillor Sandy Wilkinson echoed Ms Moran's comments.

"I have misgivings about how much it will really achieve," he said.

Deputy Lord Mayor Michael Henningsen said while he supports the project for its improvements to public transport he questioned the reasons why the park lands "needed" to be affected.

"My concern is that they can do it in urban streets without pulling down buildings but there's the need to go into the park lands," he said.

"Wearing my park lands hat we would like to see any encroachment kept to a minimum."

Adelaide Park Lands Preservation Association president Kelly Henderson said the parklands should never be sacrificed.

"The pre-text put forward in this case doesn't seem compelling and they could avoid impacts on the park lands and its trees," she said.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/sout ... 5895812026

[gumbi]

Oh god.

[Aidan]

O-Bahn plan blocked

PLANS to extend the O-Bahn have run into opposition from parklands advocates and city councillors.

The plans include extending the bridge over the River Torrens by 15m to the west,

That's more than twice as much as is needed by bus lanes. Why do they want to widen the bridge so much?

the removal of up to 560 trees and shrubs - 99 of which are classified as significant trees - and 1196 undersized amenity plants.

The use of "up to" suggests they don't actually know what the plans are.

Road widenings along the length of Hackney Rd, Dequetteville Tce, Botanic Rd and Rundle Rd would also cut into the parklands by 1ha.

The inclusion of two different routes supports the above conclusion.

[SRW]

The title is hugely misleading, of course. Nothing's been blocked, or even yet formally proposed.

And I think that it's right that there are misgivings about cutting into the parklands. That's not something that should be done wontedly or without proper and sufficient justification. The parklands are all too often seen as free and convenient -- but maybe the best solution is actually something else? Taking a lane from cars and promoting mass transit, possibly? I don't know, I haven't seen the plans, if indeed any have been finalised. Yet I would hope that, whatever else, the best solution is being pursued, not just the easiest.

That said, I think the 10 minute time-saving so readily dismissed by Ms Moran would be a rather significant improvement.

[shaun]

"I don't see the point of it at all because a part from the park lands it will mess up Grenfell St all to take 10 minutes off the trip."

And it isn't already?

[AtD]

Predictable article with predictable comments from predictable people:

Parkland pensioners think trees are sacred, Moran doesn't see the point and wants us to think of the children, Wilkinson proposes an audit of the number of blades of grass, the Advertiser gets the facts wrong in the headline and goes downhill from there.

Next.

[Wayno]

*sigh* i wonder if it's legel to euthenise AdelaideNow? another example of brain dead journalism.

[iTouch]

Parkland pensioners think trees are sacred, Moran doesn't see the point and wants us to think of the children, Wilkinson proposes an audit of the number of blades of grass, the Advertiser gets the facts wrong in the headline and goes downhill from there.

That deserves to be in my signature

[shaun]

Predictable article with predictable comments from predictable people:

Parkland pensioners think trees are sacred, Moran doesn't see the point and wants us to think of the children, Wilkinson proposes an audit of the number of blades of grass, the Advertiser gets the facts wrong in the headline and goes downhill from there.

Next.

Nice way to sum it all up.