Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Netw
Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 12:01 am
by ChillyPhilly
The recent new Wayville Station has a fully covered roof - but it is a single object, slanted to one side, and high enough so that diesel fumes can escape.
Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Netw
Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:50 pm
by metro
Driving along Churchill Rd North this afternoon and noticed the 'Adelaide Electrification Project' sign has been removed, could this mean the state govt has abandoned the project, like work won't be resuming in 2018?
Also not a good look for the Seaford line which is running slowly and the ride is rough, sure the opposition with the federal colleagues who cut electrification funding in Adelaide have no right to 'nitpick', but that doesn't excuse the state govt from carrying out basic maintenance. These speed restrictions and rough ride would not be tolerated on new roads like the Southern Expressway or the North South Mwy, any problem would be rectified ASAP! Not so with the rail system, speed restrictions and rough riding track seems to be permanent across the network. Also need to do something about the air conditioners on the new trains, it sounds like you're on a plane at cruising altitude. I thought electric trains were supposed to be quiet..
Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Netw
Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 10:47 pm
by Zills
After spending 6 months in Europe and experiencing how rail transport works here, I have to say that the state of rail transport in Adelaide is absolutely piss poor!
Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Netw
Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 11:57 pm
by Patrick_27
Mate, you could spend a day riding Melbourne's train system and come to the same conclusion.
I cannot honestly believe how hard it has been to get the government to commit to this project entirely. They can spend money on city high schools, tram extensions (which at this point lead to nowhere), and a 3km raised motorway through the northern suburbs, but they can't seem to find the courage to allocate $300m towards an electrification of all remaining rail corridors in this city.
Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Netw
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 7:58 am
by Nathan
Patrick_27 wrote:Mate, you could spend a day riding Melbourne's train system and come to the same conclusion.
I cannot honestly believe how hard it has been to get the government to commit to this project entirely. They can spend money on city high schools, tram extensions (which at this point lead to nowhere), and a 3km raised motorway through the northern suburbs, but they can't seem to find the courage to allocate $300m towards an electrification of all remaining rail corridors in this city.
I agree with your point, but don't parrot the "tram to nowhere" nonsense. You're better than that.
Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Netw
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 10:19 am
by Goodsy
Nathan wrote:
Patrick_27 wrote:Mate, you could spend a day riding Melbourne's train system and come to the same conclusion.
I cannot honestly believe how hard it has been to get the government to commit to this project entirely. They can spend money on city high schools, tram extensions (which at this point lead to nowhere), and a 3km raised motorway through the northern suburbs, but they can't seem to find the courage to allocate $300m towards an electrification of all remaining rail corridors in this city.
I agree with your point, but don't parrot the "tram to nowhere" nonsense. You're better than that.
also the 3km raised motorway, it's clearly part of a bigger plan
Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Netw
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 11:04 am
by Waewick
Nathan wrote:
Patrick_27 wrote:Mate, you could spend a day riding Melbourne's train system and come to the same conclusion.
I cannot honestly believe how hard it has been to get the government to commit to this project entirely. They can spend money on city high schools, tram extensions (which at this point lead to nowhere), and a 3km raised motorway through the northern suburbs, but they can't seem to find the courage to allocate $300m towards an electrification of all remaining rail corridors in this city.
I agree with your point, but don't parrot the "tram to nowhere" nonsense. You're better than that.
but the extension is exactly that
except the government then spent money on building and subsidising a carpark to get patrongage up (which is free!).
That extension should have been the city loop, outside the part to the new RAH (which would be in the loop too I guess)
Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Netw
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 11:09 am
by Waewick
GoodSmackUp wrote:
Nathan wrote:
Patrick_27 wrote:Mate, you could spend a day riding Melbourne's train system and come to the same conclusion.
I cannot honestly believe how hard it has been to get the government to commit to this project entirely. They can spend money on city high schools, tram extensions (which at this point lead to nowhere), and a 3km raised motorway through the northern suburbs, but they can't seem to find the courage to allocate $300m towards an electrification of all remaining rail corridors in this city.
I agree with your point, but don't parrot the "tram to nowhere" nonsense. You're better than that.
also the 3km raised motorway, it's clearly part of a bigger plan
only the North South corridor - It was simply lucky emough to be shovel ready.
Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Netw
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 1:58 pm
by bits
The superway gave the best economic impact of any other segment.
That bit of road makes the state money, most the rest of the north-south corridor have much less clear financial gains.
Same goes for the northern connector having very good economic gains.
Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Netw
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 1:42 am
by ChillyPhilly
The Federal Government also contributed heavily financially to the North-South Motorway.
Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Netw
They are due to be delivered early next year, with installation complete by mid-2016.
Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Netw
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 10:29 pm
by rev
GoodSmackUp wrote:
also the 3km raised motorway, it's clearly part of a bigger plan
Yes, the north-south corridor...or in any other capital city around the world...a freeway. But don't tell the locals here that's what it is, or they'll run you out of town.
Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Netw
They are due to be delivered early next year, with installation complete by mid-2016.
There was a plan a few years back for the redevelopment of the Noarlunga Railway Station into some sort of TOD. I wonder what happened to that?(and maybe Salisbury as well)
I approve of the installation of barrier gates.....public transport has to be paid for (its not free). People who fork out money (even a concession ticket ) are far less likely to vandalize stations or trains.
Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Netw
They are due to be delivered early next year, with installation complete by mid-2016.
There was a plan a few years back for the redevelopment of the Noarlunga Railway Station into some sort of TOD. I wonder what happened to that?(and maybe Salisbury as well)
I approve of the installation of barrier gates.....public transport has to be paid for (its not free). People who fork out money (even a concession ticket ) are far less likely to vandalize stations or trains.
They are due to be delivered early next year, with installation complete by mid-2016.
There was a plan a few years back for the redevelopment of the Noarlunga Railway Station into some sort of TOD. I wonder what happened to that?(and maybe Salisbury as well)
I approve of the installation of barrier gates.....public transport has to be paid for (its not free). People who fork out money (even a concession ticket ) are far less likely to vandalize stations or trains.
Salisbury Council were unable to attract any serious interest for building higher density residential apartments and the like close to the station.