News & Discussion: Adelaide City Council

[eKwatee]

It would be easy and you wouldn't even have to tell them, get all the Adelaide city council to go on a field trip...... to Melbourne.!!! I don't think anyone on the Adelaide City Council have ever even been out of South Australia.

[monotonehell]

You'd need to promote this scheme. The best places to promote it would be with the occupants of city offices and other day workers. What better way to promote it but to invite participation by "giving away" valuable vouchers? Because it's a scheme that requires a degree of organisation amongst carpoolers there'd need to be a concerted effort in educating the public.

Marketing, of course, would be required for any scheme. However, I think giving the vouchers away would be far too open for abuse.

Howso? Money is voucher based and that seems to work.

The only thing I can think of is if people don't value them at all and give them away. You'd only give a book of vouchers to someone who indicated that they will participate in a carpool. In the same way that some organisations use carparking vouchers for their employees to park which is then billed back to the organisation. The key to a voucher system not being abused is that the vouchers have true value to their holders.

By the way everything in UPark is voucher based.

[monotonehell]

Good Grief
What has the Adelaide CBD got that Marion hasn’t.
Push Bikes? Same old Craft Markets? Sunshine? Mall Rats? The festivals?
Good Food at the Central Market food Court for $6 per plate vs. absolute junk food at Marion food court
The Trams are good, I note they had an old one in use on Sunday, suddenly no was complaining about the narrow new trams when people had to step up 60 cm on the old red hens.
More of the shuttle trams would be good to go between the Mall and the Free Market carparks. (I assume the council isn’t making enough money from the market car park to fix the food court lifts because they are always broken)
Re the Central Market The food courts are open 7 days and staffed by owner operators and the food is substantially better quality and cheaper than the Brand Name food outlets, if you try and re-invent the central market as a Marion Clone it will loose the locals who patron it.

I'm fairly sure that the council does not own those lifts, they are the responsibility of the owner of that part of the building.

It would be easy and you wouldn't even have to tell them, get all the Adelaide city council to go on a field trip...... to Melbourne.!!! I don't think anyone on the Adelaide City Council have ever even been out of South Australia.

That's a bit rude.

[Howie]

It would be easy and you wouldn't even have to tell them, get all the Adelaide city council to go on a field trip...... to Melbourne.!!! I don't think anyone on the Adelaide City Council have ever even been out of South Australia.

I hope you're just being sarcastic there. Afaik, the Lord Mayor is currently in Hong Kong is he not? Our very own Cr Yarwood has just come back from India and has studied future cities in Japan. I'm sure everyone in the council has to do some travelling as part of their role, and not to mention they also hold regular jobs which would probably require them to travel abroad.

As for your suggestion about Melbourne being the answer for our city's problems - I feel Melbourne probably has as many problems as Adelaide... take for example the mid-city traffic crisis today - a shutdown on one single intersection in Adelaide would not have ground city commuters to a halt like that. But even still, why stop at Melbourne? I mean we ought to be aiming for something like Abu Dhabi (UAE), Putrajaya (Malaysia), or Shenzhen (China) - they're doing some outstanding future planning work at the moment.

[Clr Yarwood]

Wow, v impressed with some of the ideas…which need to be compressed and passé onto the staff – They after all do the REAL work!

Ideas put forward in this thread:

Mate, dead set legend...I really don't have the time to compress the data, so v much appreciated. For eg up this AM @ 6 working on this years annual budget!

I will use this as meeting with the staff next week to prepare a motion for the enxt council meeting...

Cheers

[AtD]

No problems.

[Hoops]

Hmmm just speculating here but if it went to a system requiring a camera.. wouldn't a heat sensing(or whatever its called) camera be most effective.. as as long you have Living Bodies in your car they should be able to be seen. Thus you get a discount...

The problem with that idea is the cars themselves emit a lot of heat. The heat from the engine, exhaust, or even the cars heater, could create significant interference.

Sure it would create interference but if the vehicle was in the same position for the photo (say taken upon entering and obtaining the Ticket)

wouldn't they be in the same rough positions?
wouldn't the heat points (Heads or Hearts I assume) always be hotter then even the car with the air con on ?
as for the engine couldn't this be excluded in say auto Cropping?

If it was Software based the computer would make a decision. if it was Drastically wrong(hopefully Rarely) then people could Ring a number and have someone review the decision and manually override(Via internet?) the decision. or if not get an answering machine with "Name Number address (perhaps have each ticket stamped with a number per day? IE. Customer 99 or customer 362) have someone review at a later stage and Mail the Cheque if they can determine it was wrong)

I stress hopefully the software would make this rarely happen....


If it was Cashier looking at the snapshot that gets brought up once the ticket gets checked (For time of entry) Should be clear enough and if it wasn't just ask them how many people they said they came with... /and or see how many are in the car upon exiting

at the worst RARELY someone would lose a few bucks if it couldn't be determined id either just pay it out if in doubt. Or tell them to turn off there air con.


Apologies for the grammar.

[monotonehell]

Sure it would create interference but if the vehicle was in the same position for the photo (say taken upon entering and obtaining the Ticket)

wouldn't they be in the same rough positions?
wouldn't the heat points (Heads or Hearts I assume) always be hotter then even the car with the air con on ?
as for the engine couldn't this be excluded in say auto Cropping?

If it was Software based the computer would make a decision. if it was Drastically wrong(hopefully Rarely) then people could Ring a number and have someone review the decision and manually override(Via internet?) the decision. or if not get an answering machine with "Name Number address (perhaps have each ticket stamped with a number per day? IE. Customer 99 or customer 362) have someone review at a later stage and Mail the Cheque if they can determine it was wrong)

I stress hopefully the software would make this rarely happen....


If it was Cashier looking at the snapshot that gets brought up once the ticket gets checked (For time of entry) Should be clear enough and if it wasn't just ask them how many people they said they came with... /and or see how many are in the car upon exiting

at the worst RARELY someone would lose a few bucks if it couldn't be determined id either just pay it out if in doubt. Or tell them to turn off there air con.


Apologies for the grammar.

Glass and metal are insulators. You can't see "into" a car with a thermal camera.

Give it up with the overly technical solutions, they are way beyond the council's budget to develop and they never work properly anyway.

K.I.S.S. (Keep It Simple Stupid)

[AtD]

How about a big steel bar 1.7m off the ground. No SUVs allowed!

[Clr Yarwood]

5 hours at the table last night and we have a draft budget for consultation – so please get involved and have your say. Key things from MY perspective:

• A separate 1% green levy on rates for green energy projects to accelerate carbon neutrality
• Solar Panels on the Central Market - a clean and green future
• Funding for 3D modelling software to look at building heights and population
• upgrade of Victoria Square and Victoria Park
• infrastructure for the Glenelg Recycled Waste Water Pipeline
• Increased use of water harvested from Aquatic Centre
• Residential growth and affordable housing initiatives
• Establishment of a Rundle Mall subsidiary
• Development Plan amendments to list more local heritage places
• Introduction of a 3 bin residential waste system
• Provision of more cycling infrastructure
• North Terrace, Grote Street and Frome Park upgrades
• Stage 5 of the Park Lands trail project
• More funding for arts, community groups and sporting groups
• Review of the Development Plan
• Review of Council Carparking
• Preparation of a Parklands Strategy
• The Rundle Lantern project

Have a look at the document – especially the map – and offer some more good comments!

[Ho Really]

Have a look at the document – especially the map – and offer some more good comments!

Can you please post us a link here in this thread. Thanks in advance.

Cheers

[Howie]

Thank you for the round-up Stephen, and some nice work from the council once again. I'm personally very interested in the 3D modelling.... any more information on this?

[Clr Yarwood]

Information will be available for downloading Saturday May 10 @ http://www.adelaidecitycouncil.com/consultation

The public information sessions are scheduled for:

10.30am Wednesday May 21 - South West Community Centre – Sturt Street
5.30pm Thursday May 22 Old Methodist Meeting Hall behind the Town Hall
2.00pm Friday May 23 North Adelaide Community Centre 176 Tynte Street

I will be at the 5.30 Methodist Meeting Hall session if you want to come and say hi…

[Clr Yarwood]

I'm personally very interested in the 3D modelling.... any more information on this?

Not much - simply have not had time to explore in detail…

What I do know is best practice, costs a bomb, will be useable for development assessment as well as futures modelling and will fire up the debate on building heights and thus Adelaide's future population.

I think 60 000 myself - excited to have access to software to explore the question...wonder if they will let me borrow on weekends?!

[Howie]

Would one day love to see a model similar to this model of Shanghai on the second floor of their Urban Planning Centre.



http://www.flickr.com/photos/andrewcurrie/230581655/

That'd really fire up the imaginations of the Adelaide people.