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[U/C] Re: News & Discussion: South Road / North-South Corridor

#376 Post by Vee » Tue May 14, 2013 7:01 pm

Shahkar wrote:The animation looks amazing except for the unelectrified Outer Harbour line which is pretty discouraging. Hopefully, they electrify it as well in the process of spending so much on the line.
Agree. This animation looks great.
Can't come soon enough to reduce the bottlenecks and safety concerns in this section of Main South Road.

Yes, it's a shame that the electrification schedule has blown out but the groundwork has been done/is being completed. Hopefully state and federal governments and the Opposition will continue support for the electrification of Adelaide metro lines and this will speed up as the economy improves. The upgraded, electrified Outer Harbour line would add impetus to the renewal of The Port and surrounds.

Improved public transport is one of the keys to keeping our city one of the most liveable cities.

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[U/C] Re: News & Discussion: South Road / North-South Corridor

#377 Post by rev » Tue May 14, 2013 7:07 pm

The intersection of South/Regency roads has been widened already. The next upgrade you would think would be when they get to making that section of South Road non-stop.

Here's the video fly through..



The sunken section seems to start just after Adam Street heading north, and come up not long after passing under the elevated rail-line.

Whether Labor wins federally or not, this section will get upgraded. It's only a matter of time, especially now that they have put this plan out.
If the Coalition win, they may wait till next years state election campaign, and pledge to fund this section, along with Darlington.

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[U/C] Re: News & Discussion: South Road / North-South Corridor

#378 Post by HeapsGood » Tue May 14, 2013 7:47 pm

What about the stretch of south road between regency rd and torrens, looks like that is being left out?
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#379 Post by Aidan » Tue May 14, 2013 7:52 pm

I regard this as a shocking example of DPTI ineptitude!

Spending a billion dollars and they're not even grade separating any more than what's already been announced a few years ago.
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#380 Post by ChillyPhilly » Tue May 14, 2013 9:52 pm

Aidan wrote:I regard this as a shocking example of DPTI ineptitude!

Spending a billion dollars and they're not even grade separating any more than what's already been announced a few years ago.
Agreed. Give them the benefit of the doubt.
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#381 Post by rubberman » Wed May 15, 2013 10:11 am

This all sounds like Federal electioneering to me.

If the Coalition gets in in September (good odds), then unless they commit to this, it will not happen.

Let's wait till September before we start imagining that something will happen on this stretch of South Road. :roll:

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#382 Post by Waewick » Wed May 15, 2013 10:53 am

rubberman wrote:This all sounds like Federal electioneering to me.

If the Coalition gets in in September (good odds), then unless they commit to this, it will not happen.

Let's wait till September before we start imagining that something will happen on this stretch of South Road. :roll:
I'm going to take the dream world position that both aspects will get funded.... :hilarious:

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#383 Post by shaun » Wed May 15, 2013 11:53 am

rubberman wrote:This all sounds like Federal electioneering to me.

If the Coalition gets in in September (good odds), then unless they commit to this, it will not happen.

Let's wait till September before we start imagining that something will happen on this stretch of South Road. :roll:
With the State Government already committed to match the funding and works set to begin this year. I believe this is a very good chance of finally happening.

The Darlington project can wait, this section of road is dangerous and it wont be long before there is another serious accident or worst, death.

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#384 Post by [Shuz] » Wed May 15, 2013 12:12 pm

I don't think it will happen. The Labor State Government still has to negotiate with the remaining 60% of landowners whose properties are affected by this proposal, which certainly isn't going to happen by September, and you can surely bet the incoming Coalition Government will withdraw the funding and redirect it to the Darlington section and expect the Labor State Government to ditch this proposal, and take the money for Darlington and run with it then, or wait until March 2014 and give it to a possible incoming Liberal State Government. If Labor gets re-elected come March 2014, don't expect to see any money at all as I can sense there will be a great deal of hostility between a Coalition Federal Government, and one sole remaining State Labor Government on the Australian mainland.

Come the expected electoral rout headed Labor's way in September, Jay Weatherill will find himself in a quite unique and extraordinary position of having to be the 'last Labor man standing' and have a huge weight on his shoulders to revive the Labor brand not just in SA, but Australia-wide. Forget Julia, it's all eyes on Weatherill now. All the other Labor parties and its supporters in other states and territories will be looking to him and SA Labor in March. Watch this space.

So if anything's to be done at all for South Road, you better hope that there's an incoming Coalition Government both State and Federal.

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#385 Post by rhino » Wed May 15, 2013 12:27 pm

[Shuz] wrote:So if anything's to be done at all for South Road, you better hope that there's an incoming Coalition Government both State and Federal.
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#386 Post by rubberman » Wed May 15, 2013 1:35 pm

I think what Shuz means is that since it is probable that there will be a Coalition government in Canbra after September, a Labor Government in South Australia will get zero. Zip. Nada. Nix.

If there is a Liberal Government in South Australia at the next State Election, then a Coalition Government in Canberra maybe will probably fund something at Darlington.

So, Shuz is concluding that the only way we might get anything in SA is if we vote Coalition and Coalition Federally and at State level.

:2cents:

Apologies Shuz if I have misread your comments.

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#387 Post by rev » Wed May 15, 2013 1:46 pm

rubberman wrote:This all sounds like Federal electioneering to me.

If the Coalition gets in in September (good odds), then unless they commit to this, it will not happen.

Let's wait till September before we start imagining that something will happen on this stretch of South Road. :roll:
No shit, you don't say?
What gave it away, the fact that they waited till 4 months out from a federal election, or the fact there's a federal election in four months time? :roll:

If you think this section wont get upgraded, you are dreaming.
Labor wins, it gets done sooner.
Coalition wins, it gets done after the state election in 2014, at some later stage during the coalitions term.
They will be hoping the state Libs can win, and will do what they can to ensure a state Lib win in March 2014.

Of course they could also turn around and say the budget is in such bad shape that they can't possibly afford to fund anything within the first 2 years of their term.
Which wouldn't be at all surprising given they love to focus on Labor's spending and budget shortfalls.

The momentum for a non-stop corridor has already begun. Neither party will turn it back now. Whoever wins, will eventually fund at least a section of South Road to be upgraded. It is inevitable and as predictable as the sun rising each morning.

If/when the Coalition win in September, then during our state election campaign in 2014, expect to see Abbott or other ministers in Adelaide appearing alongside the state Libs with federal promises to fund state Lib election policies.

You will hear a lot about how Labor has drowned us in debt, how they have mismanaged the economy, wasted money, etc etc.
It's not that hard. Just go back to previous elections, and adapt the issues they are bullshitting us about to todays issues. They will spend half their time trying to rubbish the other party.(applies to both sides)

It's odd that people seem to think that either side of politics is actually all that different.
What the Libs end up doing may not be the exact same thing Labor do or on the same schedule, but it will be the same end result, a non-stop north-south corridor.
Just like with the NBN. We will end up with FTTH, with Labor, it will be sooner, with Coalition, it will be later.

Even the state Libs are not that idiotic to ignore the need to fix South Road. They will eventually do it, if they win.

Bottom line is that South Road upgrades will continue no matter who wins. The only difference will be when and how we get to a non-stop corridor.

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[U/C] Re: News & Discussion: South Road / North-South Corridor

#388 Post by [Shuz] » Wed May 15, 2013 3:21 pm

rubberman wrote:I think what Shuz means is that since it is probable that there will be a Coalition government in Canbra after September, a Labor Government in South Australia will get zero. Zip. Nada. Nix.

If there is a Liberal Government in South Australia at the next State Election, then a Coalition Government in Canberra maybe will probably fund something at Darlington.

So, Shuz is concluding that the only way we might get anything in SA is if we vote Coalition and Coalition Federally and at State level.

:2cents:

Apologies Shuz if I have misread your comments.
That's pretty much right.
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#389 Post by Shahkar » Wed May 15, 2013 6:06 pm

'tiser is doing a survey whether South Road should become a toll road to fund the projects. What are your thoughts guys? I would definitely support it.

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#390 Post by monotonehell » Wed May 15, 2013 11:34 pm

Shahkar wrote:'tiser is doing a survey whether South Road should become a toll road to fund the projects. What are your thoughts guys? I would definitely support it.
Not sure if you can get away with putting a toll on an existing road, especially when (according to you guys) there's no alternative route.
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