ONH: [Port Adelaide] Newport Quays | $1.2b

[monotonehell]

Ahh okay we must be a cross purposes. I was thinking of the old 1800's stone buildings that they totalled for stage one.

[AtD]

PHOTOSPAM! My favourite! Thanks heaps for those.

These new apartments are going to have shiny new electric trains right on their doorsteps!

[Norman]

And a new station I'm led to believe.

[AtD]

And a new station I'm led to believe.

That makes sense considering how close Glanville and Ethelton Stations are to each other. Logically, a station off the Jervois Bridge would give good access to Port Adelaide itself, but that's a moot point now!

[Norman]

In New Station I meant a new look Ethelton and Glanville.

[rogue]

OK, time for some photospam. Enjoy!

Derelict Sheds & Land at Newport Quays North

Save the Jenkins St boat yards. They are part of the port heritage and character. Yeah right!!!

[Omicron]

Time for another Omi photo comparison!




Must so many new apartment buildings being constructed/proposed at this time have an element of public housing to them? Witness Latitude, Spire, New Port, Spark88, iPad, Tivoli et. al.

[rhino]

I quite like the blending of old and new when new buildings are designed to include old ones.

I thought you liked things that have only one thing instead of two things

[AtD]

Must so many new apartment buildings being constructed/proposed at this time have an element of public housing to them? Witness Latitude, Spire, New Port, Spark88, iPad, Tivoli et. al.

I think you're looking too hard into that one Omi.

[monotonehell]

I quite like the blending of old and new when new buildings are designed to include old ones.

I thought you liked things that have only one thing instead of two things

Yes that's right, I like things that only have one old thing and one new thing, making up one thing.

[Joely]

Those photos are a damming indictment on the heritage and NIMBY groups. Just one look at the industrial wasteland that those groups wanted to heritage list shows how hysterical and out of touch with reality they are.

To be fair, those are not the buildings that they wanted retained. They were interested in the old heritage stone built warehouse and mill (I think it was a mill? memory is fuzzy) elsewhere. The ones I have in mind would have made an interesting architectural inclusion in a larger contemporary building. I quite like the blending of old and new when new buildings are designed to include old ones. For example, the old Kent Town brewery, the East End market façade, and a few of the late '80's buildings on Grenfell Street. But there's far better ones that I can't bring to mind now. It can be quite fun to juxtapose an old building into the construction of a new one.

I'm not sure if they have changed their minds or not, but my university class visited the delfin display centre last year and we were told that they will be restoring the old mill into a boutique hotel or something along the lines of that. It's an interesting building and I really think something like that would work really well. I hope they still have this idea in mind. It would be sad to see it go.



And we were also told this building is going to be refurbished into more apartments. Would be interesting to see the result.

[Will]

The 'historic' boatsheds may still be saved from demolition

From the Messenger:

Dear Mr Rann

Adam Todd

18Jun08
EADLINE: High profile identities have called for the preservation of the Port boatyards.

EADLINE: High profile identities have called for the preservation of the Port boatyards.

A GROUP of high-profile Portonians, architects and national experts have signed an open letter to Premier Mike Rann calling for the urgent preservation of Port Adelaide's maritime history.

The imminent demolition of the historic Jenkins St boatyards, due anytime after June 30, is of most concern to the signatories.

The group includes prominent yachtsman Sir James Hardy, ABC political satirist and former Birkenhead resident Brian Dawe, Australian National Maritime Museum director Mary-Louise Williams and Hawke Centre executive director Elizabeth Ho.

The signature of Professor Phillip Cox is of particular significance as his firm, Cox Architects and Planners, were involved in the original tender for the Port Waterfront development and designed some parts of Stage One of Newport Quays.

"In Port Adelaide," the letter states, "the maritime character of its waterfront is being stripped away, with one of the last remaining opportunities to retain some of this irreplaceable character about to be lost for good."

The letter was organised by the National Trust of SA. Trust CEO Ian Stephenson said, at the very least, he was hoping for a one-year extension on the demolition deadline so the matter could be further investigated and the heritage value of the sheds fully assessed.

"We believe the boatyards are really fundamental to the history of Port Adelaide, they're on a site where boatbuilding has been carried out for 170 years," he said.

Mr Stephenson said the boatyards occupied only a small area of the waterfront redevelopment on a site that would not be developed for another five years and could be built around.

"We think there is a great opportunity to retain the boatyards without actually sacrificing density, that you could provide additional density on a less sensitive part so there's a potential there for a win-win situation and that is what we're hoping will happen."

SA Heritage Council officers have recently inspected the site and will meet tomorrow (June 19) to decide whether to grant State Heritage listing, saving the sheds from demolition.

Searles Boatyard owner Kingsley Haskett said he was increasingly confident of heritage listing. "There is no reason why (the development) must wipe out the history of Port Adelaide," he said.

Transport Minister Pat Conlon told the Portside Messenger he did not think the boatyards were worth saving.

"I don't believe that the historical value that they pretend exists in the boatyards is actually there," he said.

"On environmental reasons alone, the boatyards should not be there."

Newport Quays and the LMC would not comment.

[Will]

Stage 3 or 'The Wharf' is about to undergo public consultation

From the Messenger:

Newport Quays under microscope

Adam Todd

18Jun08
HIGH-RISE: Artists impression of Stage 2B of the Newport Quays development.

HIGH-RISE: Artists impression of Stage 2B of the Newport Quays development.

PUBLIC consultation on the next stage of the Newport Quays development starts today (June 18) amid concerns from Port Adelaide Enfield council about the $300 million plan.

The council will undertake its most rigorous assessment of any stage of the $2 billion development to date, including crime prevention and wind flow analysis, and 3D fly-through modelling.

Port Adelaide Enfield environmental services director Fred Newman said the council would also evaluate the plans against high-rise development guidelines in NSW and on the Gold Coast.

"On the face of it, it looks like the NSW and Gold Coast codes would not permit this development," he said.

Among the concerns are that some bedrooms may not have outside windows as required by the NSW and Gold Coast codes as well as the overall "footprint" of the buildings.

Mr Newman said other concerns included the two nine-storey buildings creating a "wind tunnel" effect on the public plaza.

He said the council would also analyse the effect of "extensive shadowing" over proposed public spaces, and the impact this could have on public safety.

3D fly-through modelling would allow the council and residents to appreciate the scale of the buildings from ground level, rather than just using the images provided by Newport Quays, he said. The revised plans for Stage 3, to be known as The Wharf, were released earlier this month and include a 14-storey high-rise, two nine-storey buildings and a seven-storey apartment block.

Port Adelaide Enfield Council spent $60,000 evaluating Newport Quays' original plans for Stage 3 late last year and ultimately urged the State Government to reject the proposal.

Mr Newman said he expected the council would spend a similar amount on the revised plans but defended the cost, describing Stage 3 as the most expensive development application to go before the council for years.

"This is an important development for the long term revitalisation of Port Adelaide - it will be there for the next 100 years - there is certainly an expectation that it will undergo rigorous analysis."

As the council did last year, it will fly-in four nationally-renowned design experts to examine the plans and evaluate them against the Port Waterfront Development Plan, which stipulates a height limit of 12-storeys on the Stage 3 site.

Newport Quays would not comment.

[AtD]

So, what effect would the new planning regulations have should Port Adelaide Enfield block this development?

[adam73837]

The 'historic' boatsheds may still be saved from demolition

From the Messenger:

Dear Mr Rann

Adam Todd

18Jun08
EADLINE: High profile identities have called for the preservation of the Port boatyards.

EADLINE: High profile identities have called for the preservation of the Port boatyards.

A GROUP of high-profile Portonians, architects and national experts have signed an open letter to Premier Mike Rann calling for the urgent preservation of Port Adelaide's maritime history.

The imminent demolition of the historic Jenkins St boatyards, due anytime after June 30, is of most concern to the signatories.

The group includes prominent yachtsman Sir James Hardy, ABC political satirist and former Birkenhead resident Brian Dawe, Australian National Maritime Museum director Mary-Louise Williams and Hawke Centre executive director Elizabeth Ho.

The signature of Professor Phillip Cox is of particular significance as his firm, Cox Architects and Planners, were involved in the original tender for the Port Waterfront development and designed some parts of Stage One of Newport Quays.

"In Port Adelaide," the letter states, "the maritime character of its waterfront is being stripped away, with one of the last remaining opportunities to retain some of this irreplaceable character about to be lost for good."

The letter was organised by the National Trust of SA. Trust CEO Ian Stephenson said, at the very least, he was hoping for a one-year extension on the demolition deadline so the matter could be further investigated and the heritage value of the sheds fully assessed.

"We believe the boatyards are really fundamental to the history of Port Adelaide, they're on a site where boatbuilding has been carried out for 170 years," he said.

Mr Stephenson said the boatyards occupied only a small area of the waterfront redevelopment on a site that would not be developed for another five years and could be built around.

"We think there is a great opportunity to retain the boatyards without actually sacrificing density, that you could provide additional density on a less sensitive part so there's a potential there for a win-win situation and that is what we're hoping will happen."

SA Heritage Council officers have recently inspected the site and will meet tomorrow (June 19) to decide whether to grant State Heritage listing, saving the sheds from demolition.

Searles Boatyard owner Kingsley Haskett said he was increasingly confident of heritage listing. "There is no reason why (the development) must wipe out the history of Port Adelaide," he said.

Transport Minister Pat Conlon told the Portside Messenger he did not think the boatyards were worth saving.

"I don't believe that the historical value that they pretend exists in the boatyards is actually there," he said.

"On environmental reasons alone, the boatyards should not be there."

Newport Quays and the LMC would not comment.

I honestly do hope that Mr Rann does not give in to these vocal minorities so that he can attempt to start creating a good image for himself rather than always playing with the media.