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[U/C] Re: Victoria Tower - 36 Grote Street | 122.5m | 37 levels | apartments

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2025 9:29 am
by ChillyPhilly
Southern core rise.

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[U/C] Re: Victoria Tower - 36 Grote Street | 122.5m | 37 levels | apartments

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2025 1:10 pm
by Will
from realestate.com:

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[U/C] Re: Victoria Tower - 36 Grote Street | 122.5m | 37 levels | apartments

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2025 9:13 am
by ChillyPhilly
The core visible from Bank Street.


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Interesting to see the height difference between this and RAA House.

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[U/C] Re: Victoria Tower - 36 Grote Street | 122.5m | 37 levels | apartments

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2025 5:27 pm
by [Shuz]
Even though both buildings are the same height from ground to roof level - RAA looks way taller because it's on higher elevation. Apparently there's like at least 10-15m difference between the two sites even though walking across most parts of the CBD appears flat.

[U/C] Re: Victoria Tower - 36 Grote Street | 122.5m | 37 levels | apartments

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2025 8:42 am
by rocklicker78
[Shuz] wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2025 5:27 pm
Even though both buildings are the same height from ground to roof level - RAA looks way taller because it's on higher elevation. Apparently there's like at least 10-15m difference between the two sites even though walking across most parts of the CBD appears flat.
From what I understand, the RAA Tower is 132 (131.6m) metres height, so it will be about 9-10 metres higher when Victoria Tower tops up. So, not the same height although the difference is not huge the RAA Tower will still be higher. Unlesss you are talking about a different way to measure them?

In addition, from the pov of the latest photo, the RAA Tower is closer, so it will look higher.

The ground level difference seems to me to be no more than 5 metres, but yeah I think the RAA Tower is on higher ground.

[U/C] Re: Victoria Tower - 36 Grote Street | 122.5m | 37 levels | apartments

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2025 10:01 am
by [Shuz]
132 metres to antenna.
123 metres to roof.

[U/C] Re: Victoria Tower - 36 Grote Street | 122.5m | 37 levels | apartments

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2025 11:11 am
by rev
rocklicker78 wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2025 8:42 am
[Shuz] wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2025 5:27 pm
Even though both buildings are the same height from ground to roof level - RAA looks way taller because it's on higher elevation. Apparently there's like at least 10-15m difference between the two sites even though walking across most parts of the CBD appears flat.
From what I understand, the RAA Tower is 132 (131.6m) metres height, so it will be about 9-10 metres higher when Victoria Tower tops up. So, not the same height although the difference is not huge the RAA Tower will still be higher. Unlesss you are talking about a different way to measure them?

In addition, from the pov of the latest photo, the RAA Tower is closer, so it will look higher.

The ground level difference seems to me to be no more than 5 metres, but yeah I think the RAA Tower is on higher ground.
What he's talking about is the ground level. I can't remember the abbreviation for the measurement they use, but I'm sure Shuz will elaborate on that.
Imagine the RAA building is built on a small hill, and Victoria Tower is built in the small valley next to it. Although from memory I think they refer to above sea level. But Shuz will probably give you a better explanation.

[U/C] Re: Victoria Tower - 36 Grote Street | 122.5m | 37 levels | apartments

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2025 1:47 pm
by rocklicker78
[Shuz] wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2025 10:01 am
132 metres to antenna.
123 metres to roof.
Serious question, where did you get this information from? Everywhere I look says 132 (or 131.6) metres at its roof.

[U/C] Re: Victoria Tower - 36 Grote Street | 122.5m | 37 levels | apartments

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2025 1:49 pm
by rocklicker78
rev wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2025 11:11 am
rocklicker78 wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2025 8:42 am
[Shuz] wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2025 5:27 pm
Even though both buildings are the same height from ground to roof level - RAA looks way taller because it's on higher elevation. Apparently there's like at least 10-15m difference between the two sites even though walking across most parts of the CBD appears flat.
From what I understand, the RAA Tower is 132 (131.6m) metres height, so it will be about 9-10 metres higher when Victoria Tower tops up. So, not the same height although the difference is not huge the RAA Tower will still be higher. Unlesss you are talking about a different way to measure them?

In addition, from the pov of the latest photo, the RAA Tower is closer, so it will look higher.

The ground level difference seems to me to be no more than 5 metres, but yeah I think the RAA Tower is on higher ground.
What he's talking about is the ground level. I can't remember the abbreviation for the measurement they use, but I'm sure Shuz will elaborate on that.
Imagine the RAA building is built on a small hill, and Victoria Tower is built in the small valley next to it. Although from memory I think they refer to above sea level. But Shuz will probably give you a better explanation.
I understood what he meant, elevation is an important aspect in my job. Still, it doesn't look that much elevation difference from a pedestrian pov... although in Google Earth there is a 30 metres elevation, so I guess Shuz could be right and there is a significant elevation at the RAA Tower compared with the ground where Victoria Tower is rising. EDIT: My bad, only 1 metre difference on Google Earth, although GE is not the best place to check accurate elevations.

[U/C] Re: Victoria Tower - 36 Grote Street | 122.5m | 37 levels | apartments

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2025 4:04 pm
by Ursus Maritimus
Taken today:
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[U/C] Re: Victoria Tower - 36 Grote Street | 122.5m | 37 levels | apartments

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2025 4:10 pm
by Ursus Maritimus
Also taken today, alongside the Central Market development:
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[U/C] Re: Victoria Tower - 36 Grote Street | 122.5m | 37 levels | apartments

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2025 8:16 am
by [Shuz]
This is regarded as a reliable source for topographic elevation maps in South Australia.

https://en-au.topographic-map.com/map-w ... Australia/

If you click the map on the Victoria Tower site, the elevation is 56 metres above sea level.

The elevation at the RAA Tower site is 68 metres above sea level.

A difference of 14 metres.

The roof height of Victoria Tower appears 179 metres above sea level.

The roof height of RAA Towerappears 191 metres above sea level, to antenna is 200 metres above sea level.

I remember Culwulla on SkyscraperCity forums years ago correcting the fact over RAA Towers actual height as he had access to the planning documents.

The fact that RAA Tower is 200 metres above sea level also sounds about right as at the time of construction in 1988, even though it got an exemption from the ACC planning regulations to go above the cpuncils prescribed height limit, the AAL airspace regulations would have imposed an arbitary limit capped at a "rounded" 200 metres above sea level - Nowadays CASA has jurisdiction over this and its a lot more complex, but CASA wasn't even established until 1995.

[U/C] Re: Victoria Tower - 36 Grote Street | 122.5m | 37 levels | apartments

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2025 5:25 pm
by Ben
I commented on a recent post by Synergy construct on their linked in who confirmed the height to roof it 119.51m

[U/C] Re: Victoria Tower - 36 Grote Street | 120m | 37 levels | apartments

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2025 5:38 pm
by Ben
Another core rise today too!

[U/C] Re: Victoria Tower - 36 Grote Street | 120m | 37 levels | apartments

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2025 5:45 pm
by Prodical
Yep :)