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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 10:55 am
by SRW
It bothers me that extending the line wasn't factored into the current redevelopment, likely because of indecision about the Outer Harbor branch generally.

Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 12:35 pm
by metro
[Shuz] wrote:
Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:17 pm
Name a single public transport project that got delivered in the 1970s anywhere in the world.
I can think of a few:

San Francisco opened the Bay Area Rapid Transit (BART) in 1972
Munich, for the Olympics they delivered a big suburban rail renewal and expansion by 1972.
London Underground extended the Piccadilly Line to Heathrow in 1977.
Sydney's Eastern Suburbs Railway opened in 1979.
Brisbane, Ferny Grove - Darra electrification in 1979.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:15 pm
by Spotto
[Shuz] wrote:
Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:17 pm
Name a single public transport project that got delivered in the 1970s anywhere in the world.
  • Brisbane’s Merivale Bridge opened in 1978 connecting the Beenleigh line across the river from South Brisbane to Roma Street.
  • Melbourne’s City Loop began construction in 1971.

Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 9:49 pm
by Nathan
metro wrote:
[Shuz] wrote:
Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:17 pm
Name a single public transport project that got delivered in the 1970s anywhere in the world.
I can think of a few:

San Francisco opened the Bay Area Rapid Transit (BART) in 1972
Munich, for the Olympics they delivered a big suburban rail renewal and expansion by 1972.
London Underground extended the Piccadilly Line to Heathrow in 1977.
Sydney's Eastern Suburbs Railway opened in 1979.
Brisbane, Ferny Grove - Darra electrification in 1979.

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Also Sanyo Shinkansen in Japan was completed in 1975. The Tohoku and Joetsu lines also started in 1971 and took the entire decade to build (both opened early 80s. Further lines were only delayed or scrapped due to mounting debt, not due to PT being out of favour).

Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:40 am
by Joelmark
In Adelaide, the Noarlunga Rail Extension opened in 1978, after works to extend the line from Hallett Cove.

Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 11:26 am
by Brucetiki
[Shuz] wrote:
Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:17 pm
Name a single public transport project that got delivered in the 1970s anywhere in the world.

Car was king then.
The STA was formed in the mid 70's

Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 11:32 am
by Brucetiki
So...2 weeks before Keolis Downer take over the trains, and they don't have enough staff, and haven't got regulatory approval to operate?

Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 12:09 pm
by rubberman
metro wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 12:35 pm
[Shuz] wrote:
Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:17 pm
Name a single public transport project that got delivered in the 1970s anywhere in the world.
I can think of a few:

San Francisco opened the Bay Area Rapid Transit (BART) in 1972
Munich, for the Olympics they delivered a big suburban rail renewal and expansion by 1972.
London Underground extended the Piccadilly Line to Heathrow in 1977.
Sydney's Eastern Suburbs Railway opened in 1979.
Brisbane, Ferny Grove - Darra electrification in 1979.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Moscow Metro, metro. Lots of lines opened in the seventies. Prague as well.

Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 6:37 pm
by PeFe
And getting back to the subject of Adelaide Metro trains.......

Pix from SA Dept of Infrastructure and Transport of building work on the train bridge next to the Mawson Lakes station.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:11 pm
by Jacob_ULG3
PeFe wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 6:37 pm
And getting back to the subject of Adelaide Metro trains.......

Pix from SA Dept of Infrastructure and Transport of building work on the train bridge next to the Mawson Lakes station.

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https://www.facebook.com/DFITSA
I was wondering what work they were doing over there. Hopefully this gets done in time for when the line opens up to Mawson Lakes at the end of April.

Seeing as the masts are up between Mawson Lakes and Salisbury now. There's a Youtuber that makes videos of the freight side at Parafield Gardens and you can see the masts are now up in that segment of the line. We are getting closer to those electrics running on this line.

Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:52 pm
by SBD
Jacob_ULG3 wrote:
Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:11 pm
PeFe wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 6:37 pm
And getting back to the subject of Adelaide Metro trains.......

Pix from SA Dept of Infrastructure and Transport of building work on the train bridge next to the Mawson Lakes station.

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https://www.facebook.com/DFITSA
I was wondering what work they were doing over there. Hopefully this gets done in time for when the line opens up to Mawson Lakes at the end of April.

Seeing as the masts are up between Mawson Lakes and Salisbury now. There's a Youtuber that makes videos of the freight side at Parafield Gardens and you can see the masts are now up in that segment of the line. We are getting closer to those electrics running on this line.
Do we/they have the new trains to operate on this line yet? When are they scheduled to be received?

Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:41 pm
by Eurostar
According to this week's Bunyip Newspaper SA Structural Steel one of the businesses working on Gawler Electrification Project is currently in administration.

Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2021 9:09 am
by ChillyPhilly
Keolis Downer's contract begins today.

It is a complete travesty that this has been allowed to happen.

Privatising important public assets serves only the outdated ideology of a dangerous political party.

Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2021 9:46 am
by Waewick

ChillyPhilly wrote:Keolis Downer's contract begins today.

It is a complete travesty that this has been allowed to happen.

Privatising important public assets serves only the outdated ideology of a dangerous political party.
These types of posts are amusing, I mean are you talking about the Labor party or the Liberal Party?







Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2021 11:22 am
by Spotto
Waewick wrote:
Mon Feb 01, 2021 9:46 am
ChillyPhilly wrote:Keolis Downer's contract begins today.

It is a complete travesty that this has been allowed to happen.

Privatising important public assets serves only the outdated ideology of a dangerous political party.
These types of posts are amusing, I mean are you talking about the Labor party or the Liberal Party?
In this specific instance, Liberals. We notably have them to thank for the sale of ETSA and privatising operations of SA Water as well. The only reason SA Pathology wasn't privatised was because COVID proved just how successful it was; the Lib walked away with their tails between their legs and quietly forgot about privatisation. But Labor is also guilty of privatising public services and is currently being a bit hypocritical over PT privatisation; they went through two contract re-tenders for the buses and kept them privatised, but suddenly privatisation is bad for the trains and trams?

Privatisation only works for the new company to gain a profit out of the asset that's being privatised. Public services aren't there to make money, they're there to provide an essential service and if they do make any profit then that's an added bonus. The only way privatisation of public services can be profitable is to cut services/quality, make redundancies and cut back in other areas to save money.